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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Project Shur'tug'al [AKA 75 Pinto street toy]

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phils toys

i just have to get the front and fred say he can deliver
phil
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

hellfirejim

Thanks Phil.  As i said befoe Fred was already planing on stopping here as he has some hood bumpers for me.  Maybe it will work out, thanks for the effort.
jim
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phils toys

sent fred a pm  we will see what happens
phil
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2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

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phils toys

2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

hellfirejim

Actually I have my eye on a 77 Rallye Pinto that does indeed have the aluminum  bumpers.  I plan to make new bumper brackets and do what you did by tucking them up close.  I am also toying with the idea of have the bumpers look like brushed aluminum.  I too like the idea of losing 100lbs. 

At this point I have to give credit to my friend Glen up the street who has a repair shop/used car lot.  Typical little town deal.  Without his help I could have never gotten this far as there are somethings i just can't do any more.

It appears that my dash piece for the speedo and gauges is broken as it just rattles around in there.  I am going to leave itfor now and just make sure the tank is full.  I need this running because i need to get to joliet/RT66 July for the meet to see all the other Pinto owners.
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Pinturbo75

have you given any thought to looking for the 77 aluminum bumpers for it? i got a set for mine and then tucked them up close like the early small bumper pintos and it looks great and dropped a good 100 lbs off the car. nice progress by the way.
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hellfirejim

This is about replacing the front springs.  The car originally had A/C and all of that is gone but still had the extra strong springs which jacked the front end up almost solid.  We put in new [to me] front springs along with a ball joint and shocks and now it is lowered just a bit and rides really well.
Here it is before.....


and here it is after.  Not too much different but later plans are to rememdy that.  it rides really well and i just need the front end aligned.  the Camber is off.


here is the link to the whole set...
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/coil%20springs/

next... On to the gas gauge.
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hellfirejim

As promised here is the last picture after the paint.  Not the best but way better than black.  also this is just temporary [can you say that knowing full well it might be another year or two?]
anyway here is the picture.


I also painted the back inside body work black.


here is the link to the rest of the pictures.
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/body%20work/

next post the front spring replacement
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hellfirejim

I was not even going to start body work until the mechanical part of this deal was done.  However the oprtunity to use the shop for three days and the need to remove all the chrome trim studs and mounting wires because of the hazard they would be at the car show.

Here is what the studes look like:



I used a cutting wheel to grind them all down and remove all the clips.  Here is a shot of the paint prep.



I just could have primered every spot but I thought that would look stupid and pokadot so I figured I might as well have some fun so i made the stripe.  The black is the primer.  I also primered around the windows.



When i pulled the tape off i realized just what an impact that stripe had on the car.  Since I don't need the attention I thought I would go get some matching yellow paint and just paint over.  naturally nobody had anything close so i just got some yellow as that would be a lot better than the black.  Here is a shot of it while still taped.



By the way I am really starting to like the darkern window frame at the bottom and considering blacking out the door frame.  might just try it while everything doesn't count.....

More to come tomorrow and a lkink to all the pictures.  Yes it has been fun and great.  Damn i wish i had a garage as it sure would have been a lot easier..  Oh well such is life........

later
jim
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hellfirejim

Since we are waiting on parts {sound familar?} and my buddy who owns the shop up the street is goen for all three days AND I have the key to the shop I am going to do some body work.  i am taking off those clips and springs for the trim.  They are all have rivets so I am going to grind the heads off the rviets to pull off the cips.  they are really ugly and dangerous.  Since i am entering my first car show on the 26th I need to get this done.

I am going to be so spoiled, 3 days in a SHOP.  that's right inside!!!!

heading out
jim
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hellfirejim

Well not much of anything goes smooth.  When they started to tear into the front end they found a bad ball joint but also the shocks were frozen inro place.  I had to pick the shocks i wanted so the old one are gettuing cut out.

BTW: I have 98 ranger 3.0 that just turned 250,000 miles today.  Runs just as good today as it did 11 years ago.
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r4pinto

Sounds like a blast! Either way you will pobably get quite a few looks since there might not be another Pinto there. Have fun & good luck on the repairs
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
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hellfirejim

Just a note to bring you up todate.  The car will go in the shop today or tomorrow for the front spring swap and check out of the front suspension.  Fix the gas gauge [I hope} and service the rear end. 

This holiday weekend will be spent driving and working on the body.....

I got up the nerve to send in my registration to the local car show  for july 26th.  I hope they have an under construction class. :lol:  They have between 800 - 1000 cars every year.

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hellfirejim

Well the sensor in it's current location doesn't work.  I am betting it is a location problem and not getting a reading or flow to trigger the fan.  Luckely I retained the manual switch setup.  I re-wired the fan to manual and when i tested it last night it was 90degrees and high humidity and the highest i could get it to was 190 degrees on a manual guage.  So now I am looking for another location for the sensor as i really would like it to be an automatic function.  So if you can come with a suggestion?????????

Next step is the front end and new [to me] front springs.
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hellfirejim

That is a good point but I have done that by manually grounding the the ground wire at the end of the sensor and the system works perfectly.

I reassembled everything last night so i will take it out for a test drive tonight to see if it works.  I am beginning to believe it is a flow problem or having the sensor in the right place.  If it gets warm and the fan does not come on, I will turn on the heater to get the water flowing through the area and if the fan kicks on then I will know it is a flow problem.  Since the car has a 85 t-bird turbo motor in it i will get another thermostate housing and set it up of the sensor and just be done with it.  In the mean time i still have the manual switch and wiring in place so i can bypasss the sensor system and just return it to manual until i get the thermostate housing setup for the sensor.

Does anybody have a thermostate housing for the t-bird?

jim
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75bobcatv6

jim have you checked the relay for the fan? sometimes they can be bad. just a thought.

hellfirejim

Thanks for the kind words and............the tattoos. ;D

The only thing I can tell you is what I do.  When I am getting burned out or frustrated or out of money for the next fix, I go find something small to work on and get fixed and then with a sense of accomplishment it keeps me going and of course you the people that read this.  If I can help or inspire just one person to complete their car then this has all been worth it.  Remember I don't refer to this car as "That damn little car" for nothing.... ::)

Right now my major frustration is the temp sensor for the electric radiator fan.  I tested the sensor last night and it works just like it should.  So if I jumper the ground wire off the sensor the electric fan comes on and works great.  It really cools the car down right away.  If the sensor is good and the wiring is good then it has to be in the installation of the sensor which I did not do.  It has an adapter and then the sensor.  I am thinking there is something on the threads.  The plan is since the sensor is already out I will clean it's threads and then pull the adapter out and clean it's threads and the manifold.  I am also going to look at the flow of the water and make sure the sensor placement is in the best place.  Might move it, don't know.

I will post what I found.  Almost forgot.  With my combination I have a holley fuel pump that sounds like I am re-fueling the space shuttle.  While I was out driving I shut off the pump for a second and man did it get real quiet inside. Got to fix that.  My buddy says he has a thick rubber isolator from an a/c unit that just might work.  We will see.

ok enough for now.
jim
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blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

Becky's got tatoos? Sweet. You must be the little rebel lmao  :lol:
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

blupinto

Matt's probably thinking of my John Lennon tattoos... ::) :P :laugh:
One can never have too many Pintos!

popbumper

Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

r4pinto

Oops.. I fixed lol. I was thinking Jim but for some reason John came out & I didn't even see it
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

popbumper

Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

r4pinto

Jim, it's times like this that I get inspired to work on my car.  I wish there were more stories like this so I could get more motivated to work on my own.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

popbumper

Jim:

  It's great to see such progress. I can understand where you have been, because I am there myself. There are just some days when I want to "throw in the towel", because the effort is so overwhelming. Your effort is inspiring, I am driving towards getting everything done myself, and it's a LONG process. Congrats on your success, I have enjoyed watching this unfold over the last year.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

hellfirejim

today's work was chasing down electrical gremlins.  I got the front parking lights to work.  In the rear I had to pull the tailight to get to a completly rusted outside bulb holder. Sure would explain why it is so dim.  Anyway went to autozone and got a 2 wire bulb holder and it fit well.  I also added a little sealer around the the holder and the body.  I also used di-eletric rease on the bulbs.

So i got that fixed.  Don't know why only the left front turn signal won't work..Got to work on that too.

The eletric radiator fan is not working properly.  I can jumper it at the sensor and it works fine but for some reason the sensor doesn't work right so I need to get that right.

Also going to install some new [to me] front springs to try and get some front end travel and lower the front 2to3 inches.  I will take the opportunity to look at the front suspension while we are there.

jim
PS: still smiling......... :lol:
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r4pinto

Sounds like it's all gonna be nice for ya. Lookin forward to more updates as you go along
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

hellfirejim

To follow up on what I was posting, I went and picked up the Pinto and got a pleasent surprise.  The bill was half of the estimate.  i had to ask and he said that after the front part the rest just sort of fell into place.  I used 2 1/2 inch pipe but not mandral bent so at the tightest it is probably a 2inch which is perfect for my needs.  Maybe one day it will be mandral.

They did a very good job, all nice and tucked up out of sight.  As for the exhaust tone, it is really nice and mellow at cruising speeds but when you step on it, it really starts to bark.  OH Yeah!!!!

After all the work and time on this car [about 9 pages worth] it is finally at a stage where I can drive it anytime I want.   :fastcar:

So was all the time and effort worth it????   After that first drive the answer is a resounding yes.... :drunk:

I also wanted to take a second to thank all of you reading this stuff.  If you look there are over 10,000 views.  There were times that I didn't have the ambition to go out there and work on the car but then I thought about all the people reading this that i didn't want to disappoint.

This is just stage one completed. [almost  :lol:] Next stage is working on all the little stuff to make sure all systens around the car are working right and are dependable.  Next spring will come some more work to make the drivetrain bullet proof and then we work on adding boost.  And did I mention body work and interior work and, and, and......
:rolleye:
So now it is off to start on the little stuff... :read:
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hellfirejim

Just a note that if all goes well the car goes to get it's exhaust made and installed tonight.  They are going to do it first thing in the morning tomorrow..  yeah I am excited about it as this is the last piece that is keeping me from driving it on a regular basis and without looking over my shoulder. Yes I have other things to do but this is major.   :lol:
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