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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

My Cruiser Wagon Project.....

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75bobcatv6

those are alot better then my beaters =)

TIGGER

I spent most of the weekend detailing the 79 wagon for the calender so I did not find the time to swap out the wiper assembly Fred sent me before the rain started.  I went to my storage area to re-arrange some stuff so I decide to take some pictures of the seats I won off Ebay earlier this year.  They are a little faded and a little dirty but they are in much better shape than the ones that came with the car.  I can't wait to get the interior back in this thing!
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TIGGER

It is attached to the back side of the fuse box.
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dave1987

She sure is purty!

Got another question for ya.....

Where is your key buzzer located?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

popbumper

Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

75bobcatv6

looks real nice tigger keep it up.

TIGGER

I hosed the dust off her today and snapped a pic.  The paint is not perfect but it does have a decent shine to it now.
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TIGGER

Pintony, I have been trying too but I have not had much time to tinker this summer.  My family has taken most of my time lately.
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TIGGER

So it has been some time since I have really worked on this car.  I have been starting it every couple weeks and take it around the block every once in a while.  A couple weeks ago I moved it in the driveway when I brought home my boat.  Last week, I washed it and buffed the paint out.  It looks much better now.  Tonight I started looking for the water leaks again.  As near as I can tell, the last leak I have is coming from the pass side wiper post.  I sealed the mounting flange a while ago.  That helped stop most of the leak but it looks like the post is leaking now.  Are these fixable? Has someone ever repaired one? The one on my parts car has a stripped post so swapping the whole assembly is probably not a good idea as only one wiper will work. 

There was another post that I chimed in on that I thought asked the same question.  It was not clear to me if the reponses were referring to the mounting flange itself or the pivot post itself.   

This is the last thing I need to do before I can re-install the interior.
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TIGGER

Dave, I started a new topic.  I figured it would be a better place for the info instead of being burried in this post.  i hope they answer your questions.  If not let me know.
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dave1987

Awesome. Thank you so much for your help. I've been trying to verify my stuff is connected correctly since I rebuilt the engine but something has always told me that something wasn't right.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

TIGGER

Dave, I will post some more pics tomorrow night clarifying some things.  I will add notes to them so there is no confusion to you or anyone else that needs the information.  I will have the car in the garage tomorrow night, making it easier for me to take as many pictures as you guys need or want. 
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dave1987

Okay. So I saved all of your posted engine photos and did my best to map out where all of the vacuum hoses and valves connect. Please correct me if I have confused some.

So the thermactor's top line goes to the red valve, and the bottom one goes to the bi-metal sensor under the air cleaner.

The red valve also goes to the intake nipple, the distributor's vacuum advance, the other port on the bi-metal sensor and to one of the ports on the white valve.

The white valve's other port goes to the valve on the base of the carb.

The other port on the base of the carb goes to the fender wall.



The only thing that I cannot figure out from the pictures is where the choke valve's port goes.

I figured that one of the ports on your green air cleaner valve goes to the fender wall and the base of the carb, but where does the second port go to?

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

TIGGER

Are you referring to this one?  If so, then pictures I posted are for it.
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dave1987

How about that bulky "white" valve that you have on your project wagon? It is hanging off the air cleaner on the driver's side.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

TIGGER

Yes, the thermactor valve that connects to the air pump.  Here are some pictures from my dad's 79 wagon.  It is unmolsted so this is what I copied when I put the engine in my crusing wagon.  There is a Y that bridges splits off to the intake nipple.  The other end connects to the thermactor valve.  Let me know if you need anything else.
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dave1987

The exhaust breather thing? are you talking about the Thermactor valve that connects to the air pump? It has two connections on it and looks like a small spray paint can?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

TIGGER

You are correct, the loose vaccuum line attaches to the bottom of the air cleaner.  The other line, however looks like it spans across the valve cover.  I think it may go to the exhaust breather thing.  I will verify when I get home tonight.
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dave1987

Yes, that is the valve. So does the inner most port on it go to the bi-metal sensor in the air cleaner and the outer most go back to the carb base?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

TIGGER

Here is another picture that I had on my computer.
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TIGGER

I assume you are talking about this part?  If so I will get you some more pictures....
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dave1987

I've got a question for you Tigger. The large vacuum valve on the outside of your air cleaner....

The vacuum ports broke off of my old one and I finally found a worthy replacement at the pick-and-pull. However I do not recall where everything reconnects. Is there any way you can take a couple pictures or inform me of how this goes on your engine?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

TIGGER

I guess I spoke too soon.  I went out to take a look inside the car today and I had water on the pass side floor.  It looks like it is coming from the wiper arm assembly again but from a different place.  Instead of the base being wet, the arm that ties the two wipers together had water drops on it. 

On a side note, my idiot lights started working yesterday.  The oil, seatbelt and parking brake lights work.  Even the buzzer for the seatbelt works however the seat belt light stays on all the time now.  The key buzzer stopped working though.  Not sure what is up with that?
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78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

TIGGER

We have had some pretty good rain this week.  So far, no water on the passenger side of the car.  There is a leak on the drivers side though.  I cant tell where it is coming from as the seat is in my way.

Just curious, how hard is it to remove the entire dash as an assembly?  It is just the screws under the windshield and the bolts around the kick panels and console?  Then unplug the wiring?
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TIGGER

I had a little time to work on the car over the weekend.  I did a little cleaning here and there.  I reinstalled the drivers seat and put on new wipers.  I fooled with the idiot lights some more and gave up for the time being and reinstalled the rest of the dash.  I moved the car outside in the rain.  So far so good, no water inside ;D  We should get some good rain this week so I will be checking it constantly.  It will sure be nice to reinstall the interior.....
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78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

TIGGER

I used it when I restored my 67 Mustang.  It is good stuff but expensive  ;D
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douglasskemp

Quote from: TIGGER on October 07, 2007, 11:06:44 PM
I also installed what was left of the underlayment I had.  The front was in bad shape so I had to chuck it.  I will have to figure something out for that.

One word:
Dynamat
;D
--Doug
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

TIGGER

I also installed what was left of the underlayment I had.  The front was in bad shape so I had to chuck it.  I will have to figure something out for that.
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73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

TIGGER

Today I had some more time to work on the car.  I started by undercoating the patch in the underside of the drivers floor board.  I then decided to fix my wipers.  My intermittent wipers were not working properly. Luckily it was only the box that needed to be changed.  Since I had half the dash apart already, I decided now was the time to swap out the dash pad for my mint one.  That took about an hour.  I got most of the dash back together with exception to the instrument cluter.  The idiot lights (brake, oil, seat belt ) have not worked since I bought the car.  I tried to debug them a little today.  All the bulbs are new.  I cleaned all the contacts on back of the cluster.  That did not help.  I also swapped the cluster out for another one that I have no history on.  That one acted the same.  I have a known good one in my Bobcat but I think it will net the same results.  For fun, I changed out the switch on the parking brake to see if that would help the brake light.  It did not change anything either  ???  This looks like it will not be an easy fix.  Has anyone had problems with their idiot lights not working?

Here are some pics...
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TIGGER

Here are a couple more pics....
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