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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dga57

Quote from: r4pinto on September 30, 2016, 07:33:49 AM
Thanks Dwayne. If all goes according to plan it will drive on Sunday to the spot where she broke down & was towed home with a blown tire in 2012. She has never had a complete trip & I want to change that

Sounds like a plan to me!  Good luck!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Thanks Dwayne. If all goes according to plan it will drive on Sunday to the spot where she broke down & was towed home with a blown tire in 2012. She has never had a complete trip & I want to change that
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on September 29, 2016, 09:39:30 AM
Quite a bit of progress there, good deal.. 

Absolutely!!!  Keep up the good work Matt - I can't wait to see the finished project!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

74 PintoWagon

Quite a bit of progress there, good deal.. 
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

r4pinto

Got some more parts painted. The heater lines painted up, dipstick painted & installed. Had to use the ugly 77 dipstick tube since the 80 Courier tube didn't want to work. Dipstick in & oil level good. Also put on the oil filter, throttle cable bracket, and some of the electrical wiring. I still need to clip it to the fender, install the hood, install the fuel lines & an in-line fuel filter at the back of the car as well in case there is junk in the tank. This weekend I hope to be able to fire up the car. I will try to have updated pics posted.

I also polished up the air cleaner assembly, and painted up the air cleaner tubing that was nasty looking.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Quote from: dick1172762 on September 18, 2016, 11:26:42 PM
You should think about getting rid of the power steering completely. Pintos need power steering like they need a 6 speed tranie. And it will cost nothing. Just remove the hose's and connect the two ports with a short piece of rubber hose. That's all and if you still need power steering you can do it latter down the road. I've done this on all my Pinto race car since 1974. Try it/you'll like it. And take a look at the rag joint. I replace them with a U-joint. Same $$$$.

I don't like it. My 77 has manual steering & I was in the process of converting it to power steering since I didn't like it. Just personal preference. The car was pretty well optioned out and decided whatever it did have will remain. My 77 I was getting modded but my 80 is staying OEM.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dick1172762

You should think about getting rid of the power steering completely. Pintos need power steering like they need a 6 speed tranie. And it will cost nothing. Just remove the hose's and connect the two ports with a short piece of rubber hose. That's all and if you still need power steering you can do it latter down the road. I've done this on all my Pinto race car since 1974. Try it/you'll like it. And take a look at the rag joint. I replace them with a U-joint. Same $$$$.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

It's been there. Life just got in the way. Once I refinanced the home loan and paid some bills I was finally able to get everything together to actually work on the car.

I just got done flushing the cooling system on the Impala, as well as replacing the radiator hoses and radiator cap. I'm not sure everything is OK with the car but time will tell.

Back to the Pinto... I had to get the ramps to work on the Impala, so I also went shopping for Pinto parts. I grabbed all the nuts and bolts I degreased in 2012, and some old steel lines I kept for a "just in case" reason. They are in really good shape so I will straighten then, degrease them, and use them to fix the bad fuel line at the rear of the car. I also grabbed some extra wiring, and my other power steering pump. Unfortunately the return line nipple was busted off the reservoir so it's junk.  I now need to get a power steering pump for the car. I'm not interested in spending $$ on a new pump so I am going to see what I can find on ebay, and see what car I can get one from since I know Pintos are nonexistent out here.

Just can't chance the old pump since there is a lot of blistering on the reservoir of the original pump
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Matt,


I'm just happy to see your renewed interest in the Pinto!


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Quote from: dga57 on September 18, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
Well, first things first.  As you said, you need the Impala to get back and forth to work.  It sounds like you're getting close with the Pinto, though!


Dwayne :)

I sure am Dwayne. I will be working on the Pinto a little today but it won't start for the first time in four years like I originally wanted. I will end up working on the Pinto while the Impala sits and cools so I can drain and refill the cooling system after flushing it out. I still need to cut off the rusted fuel lines at the rear and use new line to fix the bad section. I've found more rust under the car than I originally expected. It's not as clean as I would have liked but is leaps and bounds better than the 77. I only have one floor area with rust through. The rest will be coated with POR-15 to seal what has started. It's a 36-37 year old car with no undercoating so I'm not surprised. I will end up dropping the gas tank and sealing underneath but that will be later on. I feel much safer with this car than the 77 but it does need some work.

I do have bolts I cleaned in 2012, as well as the missing coolant line I have to pick up from Dad's house, as well as a replacement power steering pump. The old one has just a little bit too much fire damage to the reservoir. While it cleaned up ok it has extensive blistering, and I'm afraid if I leave it I will have an eventual leak. Better to be safe than sorry.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Well, first things first.  As you said, you need the Impala to get back and forth to work.  It sounds like you're getting close with the Pinto, though!


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Today I got the carburetor installed, as well as the grille, heat shield, EGR valve and line, as well as the air cleaner duct that bolts to the inner fender. I was going to work on getting the car to a car show in Kentucky next week but my Impala had a collapsed heater hose. Pulled the radiator cap and sludgy so I have to fix that car so I can go to work, instead of working on the Pinto.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Quote from: r4pinto on September 15, 2016, 11:23:11 AM
Thanks. Lots of hard work but worth it. Especially when finished

Absolutely!  But, as you said, worth it!!!  Keep up the good work!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Thanks. Lots of hard work but worth it. Especially when finished
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

r4pinto

Got the intake manifold installed, and another coat of paint on the engine bracket. In the mean time here are some pics.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Still need to get up pics but I do have an update. Started to route the wires, and also found the right bracket for the engine lift on the driver side. While the engine won't be coming out again any time soon I want it done right. I scraped off loose paint, and degreased the bracket before repainting it. Tonight it should be dry enough to put the intake manifold back on. I also found a couple bare wires in the harness where there are some splices. What I am going to do is get the brush on electrical tape to cover the splices. Better to fix now, than chance a bad fusable link due to a short. If I had new wire look I'd replace the worn stuff but unable to at the moment.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Thanks Glen,

I'm looking forward to getting the engine to run. I got the engine compartment retouched, and Dad & I got the engine mounts bolted to the car. It now is sitting in the engine compartment on its own. I've also bolted the exhaust manifold on the engine, and once the paint is dry in the engine compartment I will fill the crankcase with fresh oil, and also install the intake manifold. I also replaced all the rubber fuel hoses, and ran in to a major issue with the fuel lines. One of the old lines snapped in two and is now needing replaced. Not too sure what my plan of attack will be but will get it done.  Better to find out this problem now than when I have a fuel leak.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

PintoMan1

sounds like you should have it up and running soon! I hope all works out for ya and it starts right up! good luck! oh, and the engine compartment looks good too! pretty soon no more dirty hands, lol!

Glen
1973 pinto runabout

r4pinto

The engine is in the car. Today my Dad & I got the driveshaft reconnected to the car, then lined up the notches on the torque convertor. We moved the engine in to place and noticed things weren't lining up. The jack being used to support the transmission kept failing and had to be constantly pumped back up, and even then it would line up on one side but not the other. I decided to lower the transmission and look to see what was going on. Went ahead & rotated the transmission. Once I did that the bellhousing lined up perfectly after jacking it up. Started one bolt, and jacked the transmission up after the jack dropped again. We got the four bolts holding the bellhousing to the block started and snugged, then hit the bolts at the backside.  It fit perfectly, and the engine rotated afterwards.

Got the brackets bolted back on for the starter solenoid wire and dipstick tube bracket, and since the engine was off the mounts went ahead and bolted in the starter. Looks so good not having grease and oil all over everything. My dad had to leave and I though we were good to go but later remembered the engine mount to frame brackets needed bolted back on the car. Later on he will come back to help with that, and then the engine will be off the hoist. I will clean any grease from the engine compartment, and respray any areas that got the paint damaged. 

Pics to come soon!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Thanks. Tonight when I get home after the gym I might pull the brake rotors off the 77 & put them on the 80 so that's done, as well as install the driveshaft back on the car so that'll be done. Maybe even fix my air compressor so I can use it for a quicker install of parts
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

oldkayaker

Amazing how much better the engine bay looks with a fresh coat of paint.  On the engine locking up when the C4 is bolted up, the only thing that comes mind is that the torque converter may not have been fully seated in the C4.  After sliding the torque converter into the C4, rotate the converter until it in fully slides in.  My C4 torque converter snout measures about 5/8" in from the face of the bell housing (not proud of it) when seated (prior to bolting to engine).  Hope your real problem is this easy to resolve. 

If the engine had come from a manual transmission car, the pilot bearing would need to have been removed.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

r4pinto

Engine compartment painted.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

No new progress today. It was issue after issue. Found out the threads in the C4 bell of my transmission were stripped at the dowel holes on both sides. Bought a heli-coil kit for it and that fixed that but ran in to another problem. We got the bellhousing installed to the block but when attempting to rotate the crank it was locked solid. For some reason the torque convertor seems to be binding so not sure what's going on. I had installed the torque convertor in the bellhousing before installing the engine but no luck. Pulled it out and the engine rotates fine. For some reason we are having issues getting it to fit flush against the engine. Don't know what's up. Got the engine out and will have to retouch some areas of the engine compartment, as ther are some scratches now.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Thanks, it sure does but it's worth it. Last night I painted the engine compartment the best I could. I wasn't able to mask off the grommets since I couldn't find the tape and was in a bind so I will clean them off later. The compartment is 100% better than it was before.

I also got the oil pan back on the block, and installed the distributor, and original starter ground cable to the engine. Also painted up the engine mount brackets, and installed new mounts. Looks 100% better

Pics to come soon!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

PintoMan1

really looks good Matt! i know it takes time, but keep up the good work!

Glen
1973 pinto runabout

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

r4pinto

Thanks Dwayne! I am really amazed at the progress so far. The paint on the oil pan looks good, and today I will be cleaning the block before installing the oil pan to the engine. On the agenda today I will also be pulling the wiring harness and clean the engine compartment. I will then be giving it a fresh coat of Rust Oleum Harbor Blue. It really amazes me how close it matches to the OEM car color.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress