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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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discolives78

Hello, Pinto Pals!

Well, a sad day has befallen me. I've decided to sell my pride and joy ( :'( :'( :'( :'()

I need a car with an automatic, and as it sits, I can't afford insurance on my car, so if I could come up with $1k in cash and $1k worth of other old car, I would be able to scare off the wolf at my door until I can get gov't assistance (about 3-4 months away) Thanks to all who have followed this story. I won't let this be the end of my involvement (even though I haven't been around much lately).

Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

discolives78

Hello all!

I've been looking at the brighter side of things.

I have my very own carport now! ;D



I forgot to put up pics of the cassette and equalizer after they're mounted:





(note the penny for the tuner knob! ;D)

I need to find some appropriate chrome knobs. I have some factory knobs, but they don't fit these shafts (factory are 'D' shaped and aftermarket are split).

Just been puttering around the house mostly. Have a neurology appt next month. Hope all of you are doing well :)


Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

dave1987

Glad to hear you're feeling better and life is treating you well, Chuck!

Sorry to hear about your car loosing things on your trip, hope she's doing well aside from it all.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

75bobcatv6

im just glad your ok. and you are doing better. keep us posted on your progress on the car and you health please =)

discolives78

Well, it's my lucky day! (mostly...)

I got to spend some extra time up here today. My box with the factory sport mirrors, my extra driver headlight bezel, CB's bumper guards and other goodies was packed up back in the garage, but I got it out! I got it packed into Buttercup for the ride home. Some sizing up revealed, however, that when I got the chrome trim for the top edge of the door (for the sport mirror on the pass side), I got the trim for a Pony. It's only half the width of the one on there. :embarrassed: :mad:

I lost half of the window channel trim on the door edge of the driver side on my way up here  :fastcar:. Good thing I have a spare door.   :lost:

Hope to see more of you guys very soon!
I'm feeling fairly good these days, so keep thinking happy thoughts!
Chuck :afro:

Chuck


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

Carolina Boy

I missed you Man!!! Welcome back to the land nuts and Pintos. So glad to hear thing are good for you and you're buddy and that the Pinto is well. Looking forward to more posts from you, Hav had to put up with Blu Pintos shenanigans.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

discolives78

Hey guys!

I like the new place, it's out of the county, so no smog laws ;D. I'm sharing a 16x80 mobile home with my brother's mother-in-law (we're a close family). It's nice because she's older and quiet. The dog came along and he's doing well, and has his old buddy to hang out with. There's lots of space for me to store car parts, so that's cool. I will hopefully get a computer of my own soon and be able to spend more time here again soon!

Thanks for all the prayers and wishes!  :angel:

Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

r4pinto

Chuck, glad all is better with you and you are back on the site. Enjoy the new place!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

popbumper

CHUCK!

  I was asking about you and several other (missing) members a few days back. Great to have you along again!! Hope you are doing better, it's tough when things are pulling you down.

  Looking forward to your posts. I have been making a lot of progress myself. Thanks for joining us again!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

dave1987

Glad to hear you are doing okay Chuck! I think that goes for all of us! :D :D

I hope you are enjoying having your new place! Is it all to yourself? If so, I'm sure it's worth the long drive and time away from these boards, I know having my own place was! Just waiting until I can afford that luxury again. :(
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Hey Chuck!

:welcome:  back - we all missed you!  Hope everything is going well.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

discolives78

Hey everybody!

Thanks for all the wishes!!!

I'm getting around a little better now, and I've gotten settled into my new pad, but it's a kinda far drive, so I'm only getting up here once every week or so. Now I only get a few minutes instead of the few hours I used to have, so I have to prioritize my time.

First come e-mails to Docs and stuff, then the fun stuff, but I don't always get to the 'fun' part of the fun stuff, that's why I've checked in with Becky, and not here. Reply to messages then run out of time!

The Pinto is running great and still getting me around, and I've been keeping her clean and checking the oil regularly. Up to 87,300 miles now.

Stay tuned, I'll be back!
Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

blupinto

Will do.

It is a great community that cares for one of its own. I'm proud to be part of it.  :) I didn't know how much Chuck wanted me to divulge so I didn't just put it out there. I wrote and told him we miss him, and if all goes well he has happy plans. I'll let him share that when the time comes. ;) Thank you guys for caring.
One can never have too many Pintos!

75bobcatv6

Thanks becky, send best wishes and a speedy recovery from me and my family

71pintoracer

Becky, please keep us updated, and no disrespect to you or Chuck, just joking around.  ;) Tell Chuck we are thinking about him and keeping him in our prayers. WE MISS HIM!!
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

dave1987

Glad to hear he is okay. I am soon to be on the same path with declining health, and it's nice to see we have such a caring community here when people need each other.

Here's to a speedy recovery Chuck, we're all here for you!  :drunk: :drunk:
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

r4pinto

Becky, Thanks for the update.

I'm sure I speak for all when I say that I hope all will be okay with him and he has a quick recovery.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

blupinto

Sorry folks...Chuck wrote me a few days ago and he's having health issues. He was in the ER but came home. I told him me and the gang miss him.  :(
One can never have too many Pintos!

75bobcatv6

Kinda worried since we know about his health issues and all. Just wanna make sure hes ok

71pintoracer

Last I heard he was going to Knott's with Becky (aka blupinto) and I haven't heard from him since. Becky's not talking..... ???
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

r4pinto

Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

75bobcatv6

anyone heard from Disco in a while?

discolives78

Well, I've been keeping busy!

I got the cassette player from 78squirewagon and the equalizer from carolinaboy installed today. Took me a little longer than it used to, but that's ok, I got it done. Sounds a lot different than the cd player I'm used to. I forgot about tape 'hiss'. :-\

I got a couple pics, but I left the camera in the car, and I'm tired. :sleep:

I'll probably do a youtube update on the car, quite a few things changed since the last one.

Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

dave1987

The mirrors look pretty nice on your car!

Doesn't a nice clean car just make you feel so much better? :)

I wish it would stop storming here in Idaho so I could get mine washed again. :(
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

discolives78

Dave: at some point somewhere, I think you asked about the mirrors on the car. Here's the skinny:

These mirrors came from Pep Boys in 2003, they were $20 for the pair. They have potmetal bases and plastic bodies. The base has a ball and the body has a socket. The 'glass is fixed, so to adjust, you move the entire upper section. I mentioned that I picked up an original set of remote mirrors off a 79 wagon (and the correct trim). I need to repaint the mirrors and track down a 'glass for the right side, and then I'm going to install them on my car. I'm thinking I'm going to mount the remote in the vinyl panel instead of the metal upper part of the door, though, as with my lack of coordination I'm pretty sloppy with a drill  ::).

Here's a couple closeup shots (this is passenger side, but you can get the idea, the driver one is similar). The ball/socket arrangement has gotten sloppy over the years from being bumped and moved, so their time has come (and gone).





Just an example of settling for 'close' and making due with what I can find.

Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

discolives78

Part two. I noticed the seat covers were kind of interfering with the latches, so I took off the stoppers and the latch, and tucked the seatcover under them and reinstalled:



I got the door lock grommet issue resolved, these are for a 64-66 Mustang, but they fit nice, $2 on e-bay:







You can really get a warm feel from all that woodgrain trim! I got the upper trim and the blue console from 78squirewagon (thanks again! ;D), the trim on the console came from a 72 wagon at the u-pull-it, that was a while ago, it's in the first u-tube video. I'm gonna go back to a more retro, but probably not stock radio. Carolina boy sent me the center dash vents for the a/c cars, so I'm gonna move the heater controls down to the a/c console and rig the center vent to the defroster vent so I can have heat on my face too, not just my feet and forehead!

Todays mileage:



I hope all of you had a special moment with your Pinto~ today!

Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

discolives78

Life is good! The weather is great and everything is turning green! :D I love springtime!

You didn't think I'd really be able to not work on my car, did you? I started this morning by washing and drying it, then cleaning out the junk inside, dusting and vacuuming. I've got the 1978 only bumper guards on front and rear now, and as I mentioned, the front plate was the 'original' plate.







But I didn't stop there. To be continued... ;D


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

71HANTO

Quote from: discolives78 on March 21, 2009, 11:52:52 PM
The bottom plate was from my Peugeot (I just like the frame ;D)

Pinto archeology at it's best....I LOVE the 8-Track lic. surround on your Pooh-got ;D, it's interesting to contemplate the past of these little cars. The human stories within the Pinto story.....I'm still amazed that ANY Pintos survived the never ending on-slot of 2 ton metal projectiles being hurled at them for nearly 40 years :drunk:
"Life is a series of close ones...'til the last one"...cfpjr

phils toys

nice peices  very cool find.
hope you get better soon
phil
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

dave1987

VERY VERY COOL!

Now I am wondering if my mother still has these things from my car, stashed somewhere....

Drop one of the keys on the table, then drop one of your newer keys. If it sounds significantly different, then yes, they are the originals! And in PRISTINE shape! They are actually make out of solid aluminum. I still have the originals to mine, but they are so worn that there are nearly no markings left on them.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!