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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dave1987

It looks wonderful! I think the wood grain interior accents are going nicely with your car. I've been debating on putting the wood grain dash panel and e-brake handle on my car, but with my black and silver interior, it just wouldn't match. I am going to be modifying a wood grain dash panel soon though.

Is your original bumper in really good shape? Mine has a lot of fading/oxidizing on the passenger's side and isn't shiny at all. I've been looking for a replacement aluminum bumper in really good shape, though.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

discolives78

First, today's scores:







Then some installs:







The woodgrain e-brake is from a 78 bobcat wagon that wasn't there last week. The bumper guards and back bumpers are from a 77 Pinto wagon


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

discolives78

I found NOS center caps for my sawblade wheels!





Cool, huh? Shiny Chrome! American Racing center emblems. $41. inluding shipping from Oklahoma.

Better views of the seat covers (more light)



The front



The back



The bottom cushion



They're tied on with black rope, no cheap elasic and hooks here.



He did the front and back all as separate pieces. The material is soft and durable, I bought a set of covers from him about 4 years ago for a van I had, the covers outlasted the van!

Well, that's it for today, trip to u-pull it tomorrow for the back bumper with rubber trim that matches my front bumper. One speed bump at a time :drunk:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

larjohnson

The car looks fantastic, the seat covers were a nice touch.  Yep!!! been doing the salvage runs myself, only problem is I bought some things the other day, that just won't work on my car.  Oh well, I'm sure I'll find someone who can use them.  I was missing a seat release knob for the driver's side seat I found on an earlier junkyard find, have since had the seat recovered, looks great!!!.  Seen one on EBAY I thought would work, but found out it wasn't for a Pinto.  Good news is the seller e-mailed me back, and actually had the knob I needed, and it was less expensive than the one on EBAY.   So, hoping I can get the knob, that'll finish up my interior items, with the exception of an original Ford Pinto radio.  I'll find one of those soon enough.  Good luck on your car, it's looking great!!!!  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dave1987

Awesome junk yard finds Chuck! I found rain gutter trim for my car at a junk yard in Caldwell a month ago. They were just getting ready to crush the car too!

I'm liking the seat covers. They look REALLY comfortable! X_X
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

discolives78

Update for Monday

Went junkyarding yesterday, only one pinto still there, the blue wagon (77) and most of the good stuff is gone. I scored some chrome tidbits, a door lock knob, a very good set of ford radio knobs, an original two-knob metal radio plate (that's been filed a little), and chrome heater control knobs from a fairmont. I installed a wider day-night interior mirror, painted my "sport" mirrors white to match the car, they were black. I also got a set of "tailor-made" seat covers for my car, they slip on and have loops and ties like store-bought seat covers, but he made them for my car, so they fit very well. he also made me covers for the back. This is a seven piece set, two pieces for each front and three pieces for the back. It was $150, but that was a good investment I think, because now I can relax and learn my trade, and I can do my car after I destroy(I mean learn on) somebody else's stuff. :look:  And after I do my upholstery I can use them to protect it.











I got my chrome trim on the raingutters too!



A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

discolives78

Well, you know we all get busy with other things during the holidays, now life's calmed back down a little bit. Not much progress lately. I got the woodgrain shift knob from e-bay, I installed that this afternoon. It's quite a bit bigger than the base model black plastic one. I also got the rubber sun visor rod tips from ssc, but I used e-bay, simpler. Now my sunvisor won't flop down every time I hit a bump. Thanks Dave for looking for the trim. I understand parts like that are "as is, where is, when is".


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

discolives78

Dave: I understand. Like I said its not going to happen till spring anyway (good, I'll use that money for last minute gifts!)

Chuck


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

dave1987

Do you need some of those plastic retainers for the spark plug wires? I have a set for the Pinto that snaps onto the brackets welded to the valve cover. I also have some of the ones that just hold the wires together. Let me know and I will send them your way!

It might be a little bit before I can get your roof top trim. We have had a couple feet of snow fall in the past week and a half and the yards are really hard to navigate and walk through. The car that your trim is on is on top of another one, and with snow on everything, climbing on other cars to get to it isn't to much fun right now.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

discolives78

One more quick update. My cam timing pulley ate my #1 spark plug wire. Good thing I had a spare, but that was a new set >:(  So now I have to look for some wire looms. Oh, and that cured the backfire problem.


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

discolives78

Quote from: 78squirewagon on December 17, 2008, 07:06:31 AM


I want to see pictures of my parts I sent LOL!!!!



pictures of parts you sent  :cheesy_p:

Well I've been working pretty close to full time. I've learned a lot so far. I'm doing just about everything except stitching (strip, springs, foam repair, frame repair, install new covers, re-install/re-assemble). My boss said it's going to be slow for the next two weeks, so he'll show me how to sew then. After that I'm going to do my car. Just an update and thanks: I am going to install the 1/2 vinyl top shown in the 1978 brochure, but not till spring. The boss said to wait till it warms up, much easier to install the top when it's warm and the glue grabs better! and now the thanks: Fred Morgan, chrome raingutters, I heard you were the man! And Dave1987, who found me the roof trim, and sent the steel nuts for the wood dash trim.

Happy Holidays!


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

popbumper

It was near 70 degrees here today. Talk about a switch!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

discolives78

We're back to normal for now, light rain this morning and sun. 45 degrees, snows all gone.


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

75bobcatv6

lol. thanks phil but its nice enough here as it is now. 50 degree weather is nice.

phils toys

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on December 17, 2008, 12:46:42 PM
whats snow? we never get it here. just rain and incessant heat...
It is white  soft and fluffly  just like cotton  but alot colder.   :lol:
I would send some to you  but i think it is against  the laws of  nature  to share
Phil
 
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

75bobcatv6

whats snow? we never get it here. just rain and incessant heat...

78squirewagon

So, you want to see Pinto's in the snow? Let me take a few pictures of my "other" 78 wagon and Bobcat that are currently covered in the white stuff LOL!!!!

I want to see pictures of my parts I sent LOL!!!!
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

blupinto

Brrrrr! Merry Christmas Chuck! Your baby looks good in snow!
One can never have too many Pintos!

discolives78





not getting much done today!
Seasons Greetings everyone!


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

dave1987

the steel "thread cut nuts" were what I was referring to. They are the correct hardware that goes to the trim, and I destoryed the trim I have while attempting to cut out holes for my gauges :(. Shoot me a PM with your address and I'll send them your way!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

discolives78

Quote from: dave1987 on December 12, 2008, 09:34:53 AM
Chuck, if you still need the fasteners for the dash wood grain trim (metal self threading bolts), I have all three from the trim I pulled off the bobcat. Provided that the trim that you have has all three mounting posts still on it, they would work just fine.

The trim does have all three studs, I went to napa today for the steel 'thread cut' nuts for the mustang, but they didn't have any big enough for the pinto.


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

dave1987

Chuck, if you still need the fasteners for the dash wood grain trim (metal self threading bolts), I have all three from the trim I pulled off the bobcat. Provided that the trim that you have has all three mounting posts still on it, they would work just fine.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Chuck,
So glad to hear you are feeling well and that you like your new job in the upholstery shop.  Happy Holidays!
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

discolives78

Quote from: 78squirewagon on December 08, 2008, 06:23:09 AM
JUST KEEP YOUR MONEY (unless you have already mailed it out)  ;D MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!  I am glad you can use them because they were on their way to a scrap yard before I stipped the wagon of anything I could either take out or pry loose  ;D


Thanks Mark! I really appreciate the parts and they will go to good use. Currently 5 Pintos live thru my one and 4 others live thanks to parts from 3 of mine. I think that's just how most Pintos are. Don't send your car parts to heaven, heaven knows we need them here!

Seasons' Greetings everyone!

P.S. I have been feeling great lately! I love my new job, I'm sleeping better, more energy, life's good.


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

78squirewagon

Quote from: dave1987 on December 08, 2008, 09:02:49 AM
I'd say you deserve a 1 up for that one 78squirewagon!

That's just how I am. It am a firm believer in good karma and even though I could use the money, I dont need it. I would just spend it on crap I do not need. Besides that, IT'S CHRISTMAS. If the parts can go to a good home, then that is thanks enough.
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

dave1987

I'd say you deserve a 1 up for that one 78squirewagon!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

78squirewagon

JUST KEEP YOUR MONEY (unless you have already mailed it out)  ;D MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!  I am glad you can use them because they were on their way to a scrap yard before I stipped the wagon of anything I could either take out or pry loose  ;D
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

discolives78

So this is my first post in a couple of days. Is the registration agreement going to pop up every time I post something? Also every time I try to send a "personal" message to another member, the member bar changes it to "spike", does all correspondence now go through spike, or is this a transitional thing? I do like the Pinto Snow on the homepage! Now on to the reason for posting.

I got my box in the mail today from Mark (78squirewagon) Thanks! It's like an early Christmas! Two sunvisors, a passenger armrest, a vintage(not factory) am/fm/cassette player in a radio bezel. The bezel has a small crack, but I can fix that. Also, the wood trim between the heater control and passenger vent (no fasteners though :-\) , and a blue "long" console from an a/c car! Mark: I'll get a money order out to you during the week, many thanks!

I got cut off the other day, so back to the paperwork: Mark also e-mailed me the visor "starting instructions" which has "seatbelts for dummies" on the other side and the dash sticker, I haven't had a chance to print them yet (need something to print them on, and money's tight) but that's totally cool! I have a copy of the visor card, but it's been folded in half and is sort of deteriorated.



On to Dave: my brochure says "North America's traditionally best selling better ideas subcompact", when you open it, on the right side of the first page about half way down, it says 'Pinto has the 4 passenger comfort Canadians want.' It makes several references to "North America" as opposed to "America", it was printed in Canada (says on the back). There's one on e-bay right now that says "New standard equipment makes it an even bigger value."




I also got the Goodyear tire warranty booklet, and a consumer information page that tells you about passing distances and speeds and stuff



My passenger seat is on my bench in the upholstery shop right now, so it's kinda like driving a race car, but you can't finish a project without starting. Tomorrow I'll install some of the parts from Mark, hopefully I will get some pictures up.



A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

78squirewagon

I am going to e-mail you a copy of the starting instructions (goes above visor) as well as copy of the dash sticker.
The starting instructions you can print out on card stock paper and the dash sticker you can print out on label paper. It makes a nice addition to a car. I have them for mine and it just adds something to it I think.

Nice work so far. Let me know when you get the box of parts



Mark
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

dave1987

What exactly does it say? I just pulled mine out and it says "America's traditional best selling better idea subcompact.".
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!