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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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76hotrodpinto

Quote from: Wittsend on October 14, 2015, 03:32:45 PM

BTW, this thread is the only activity on the Turbo section since July 22, 2015.  That other post regarded the Ranger cam and then on July 21st, 65 Shelby Clone posted.  Where are the other Boost Spoolers???

I'm not surprised. I'm usually waayyy behind in everything. I probably missed this hey day by decades.

Good point on the temp sender. I wonder if I can just figure out the reading for a warm engine and mimic the signal?
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Wittsend

Yea the TPS too low is odd given the 1.17 you found. Frankly I don't think it is too critical. I think it just needs to function in roughly the 1-5 volt range and the ECU learns to adjust.  Now, maybe it is comparing to another sensor and the TPS "seems" too low for the other readings?  I know some of those sensors look like they loop through each other (maybe they parallel???). I can see where the temp sensor will give a rich condition if the ECU thinks the coolant is cold.  I'd look at finding a way to tap in the factory sensor even if it is a Tee in a hose.

All this has got me to thinking that if one has a number of potentiometers inline with the various sensors that there is likely some ability to tune the engine. Like in show a cooler coolant than it is and the engine richens up a bit. The deluxe version can use vacuum switches to trigger this effect on/of dependent on throttle input.

BTW, this thread is the only activity on the Turbo section since July 22, 2015.  That other post regarded the Ranger cam and then on July 21st, 65 Shelby Clone posted.  Where are the other Boost Spoolers???

76hotrodpinto

Tps tip.

The plug ends on mine were hard to get the micrometer probes to pig tail into. So I slipped the pin connectors out and attached 8" leads to the black and green pins, and put it back together, pulling the 8" leads thru the corresponding wire holes . I used a small gauge single wire, and crimped a butt connector on the other end of each. It allowed me set the probes in the open ends of the butt crimps, for easy tuning. Just tuck out of the way when not being used.
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76hotrodpinto

I deleted the temp sender to put in a mechanical temp gauge.

I just went through the tps process again. I had it at .94 when I originally tuned it, but it was at 1.17 when I just checked it. Put it at .94 again. It's a little smoother, but the afm is still showing a rich condition through all rpms. It idles at a perfect 1000 rpm. Still throwing the code 63, but I don't know if it needs more run time to recognize the adjustment. Haven't investigated the code 72 yet, not sure what to test yet, but that may be causing the rich mix.

Still no luck on the koer yet either.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Wittsend

 Is there a reason for the coolant temp sender code. Is it not functioning, you deleted/replace it?  This is a LONG thread to go back through.

If I remember correctly to set the TPS you disconnect something (idle compensator???) and set the idle RPM on the throttle body. Then you adjust the TPS for one volt (as I recall 0.94 is recommended). I deleted the EGR and as best I recall the KOER test still initiated.

  I also found it interesting because it seemed to initiate a cylinder balance test, but then, as someone pointed out, two injectors fire at a time in this system and it can't give an accurate result.  All I can say is when I initiated the CB test the engine ran rough in a cycle that seemed to disable injectors firing - go figure.  I also have the Innova 3145.  I bought it after getting tired of counting light flashes (and confusing pauses) on the Equus 3143 and before that the CEL bulb. Not a task for those who have ADD.  I don't and it was still befuddling at times.

76hotrodpinto

Hmm. What changes?
Delete list:
egr solenoid
temp sender
12v fans
ac clutch relay
(might be more, need more coffee)


Hardwired the fuel switch in premium position.

The tps was suspect before testing, might need replacing. The code 72 will require more investigation.

Other codes that I attribute to system mods:

o-51
o-84
c-51

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Wittsend

What changes did you make to the stock system?

63 Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) signal too low

72 (R) No MAP or MAF change in "goose" test - retest, check for frequency or voltage change
Sub Notation: (M) 2.3L T/C - PCM re-initialized. Possible electrical noise, case ground or intermittent VPWR problem

76hotrodpinto

So I finally got around to playing with the code reader. I got the innova 3145. I got some codes that I know are from egr and temp sender deletes, and some that I need to do some checking on (codes were 72 and 63). The timing check was fine. But I can't seem to get it to run a koer test, or maybe I just don't understand what's happening. It does engage the the throttle for second, but that's all, then about a minute later, the display goes blank, like it has turned itself off. I did read that I can't run the koer until after I get a code 11 on the koeo. But how is that even posible, given the swap mods? I'll be messing around with the other codes, that still have existing systems to mess with. I'm just a little befuzzled that I can't get the koer codes.
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76hotrodpinto

Quote from: Wittsend on September 26, 2015, 06:55:40 PM
I think that's enough shiny's.

Don't worry. The rust color cam sprocket helps tone things down. LOL  Also, if you can dig up the factory clamps they are a muted black color. Glad to see the progress. You turbo guys seemed to have slowed down a bit.

Gotta have a little rust, it's all about balance! I don't think any of the clamps on the tbird were original, when I got it.

It does seem slow in this part of the forum these days. I'm in the process of gathering all the parts for the next round of swapping. 11" discs on all 4 corners, new coil springs and shocks, tubular a arms, lsd for the 8", monospring system, disc master cylinder, all new bushings everywhere, rack and pinion, and dropped 2". And of course some new wheels to clear the discs.
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Wittsend

I think that's enough shiny's.

Don't worry. The rust color cam sprocket helps tone things down. LOL  Also, if you can dig up the factory clamps they are a muted black color. Glad to see the progress. You turbo guys seemed to have slowed down a bit.

76hotrodpinto

I got the last piece of my cooling system in, the overflow tank. I think that's enough shiny's.



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76hotrodpinto

Finished up a few small things.

Put a drain valve in the radiator.



And dug thru the radiator hoses at the parts store till I found the right chunks to make decent lines in and out. I hate temp tubes.



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76hotrodpinto

How much of an affect, if any, does engine temp have on fuel mixture? I've been running rich, not so bad that I can smell it in the exhaust, but rich on the mix meter. I've been gradually upping the temp setting for my fan, and have noticed that my mix meter is showing incremental lowering of fuel in the mix(at operating temp). Is it coincidental? My imagination? Or am I correct, that engine temp is part of the computers equation for determining fuel mix?
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76hotrodpinto

Mine seems more accurate than before. According to the speed signs that read your speed, it's dead on too.
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65ShelbyClone

I have the trust issues after major work too, but most of it comes from all the new wiring. Mechanicals can usually be fixed on the roadside with simple tools...electrical, not so much.

My speedometer is surprisingly accurate (according to GPS) to about 1mph with the '86 Bird trans gear and the Pinto driven gear with 3.55s and stock tire height.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

76hotrodpinto

It is running rich, and I have those tiny wheels. I've been mostly just driving it and monitoring all the systems for issues. Other than needing some tuning, it's doing perfect. I always go thru trust issues when I do a drive train swap, but I feel pretty good about things so far.
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65ShelbyClone

I think the one time I checked it was doing about 24mpg with a bad tune and routes and driving that did not help economy. I expect to get 26-28 when it's finally sorted out. That's what 2.3Ts got in most of the original (larger and heavier) applications.

18-20 leaves a LOT of room for improvement.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

76hotrodpinto

What kind of mph are you guys getting out of your turbo setups? I'm surprised to find I'm getting 18-20 mph, or so. That's about 50% better than the 11-1 comp. na motor, I was running before. I feel pretty good about that.
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Wittsend

Cool, but be safe. There was a guy on here a while back that had a grandpa like Squire Wagon, cheezy plastic hub cap, a beer box hiding his rear mounted battery - and a turbo conversion. He seemed to bait the Ricers too. There was an actually a web site about his car. Not sure how to link to it now.  But, yea, go PINTO!

Update: Found it. Click on the "more" when you get to the pictures for continuing information. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2167062/1980-ford-pinto/

76hotrodpinto

Quote from: 65ShelbyClone on August 31, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
I don't yet, but this might offer some ideas:

http://stinger-performance.proboards.com/thread/732/fix-pcv-system-engine-blow

Perfect! Great info, thank you.

I haven't quite got the clutch broke in yet, but I let myself be goaded in to an excessive acceleration type situation with a lowered acura sporting a coffee can... my first victim! And I still have yet to really lay in to the throttle. This has been one of the more gratifying projects I've ever done.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

65ShelbyClone

'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

76hotrodpinto

(sound of crickets chirping)

Any of you guys running an oil catch system? I don't think I need it yet, but I hear they become necessary at higher boost levels, which is inevitable. If you do, what size can are you using? And what size toobs?
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76hotrodpinto

I fingered out the video posting deal... I think. So here is a short one. I'll post one of a joy ride, when I get a brave camera man. My first video, so don't expect any kind of quality.

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76hotrodpinto

Quote from: 72DutchWagon on August 15, 2015, 03:52:04 AM
On posting a video, the one on my project was the first time I did this; went to youtube, right top click upload, logged in with a gmail account, uploaded the video following the simple instructions, and copy pasted the youtube url of the vid in my Pinto post.
Hope this helps.

So I need to make a youtube account? Will photobucket work? I use that for pics.
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72DutchWagon

On posting a video, the one on my project was the first time I did this; went to youtube, right top click upload, logged in with a gmail account, uploaded the video following the simple instructions, and copy pasted the youtube url of the vid in my Pinto post.
Hope this helps.

76hotrodpinto

I got my boost gauge and afm gauge installed. I had to swap a few around to satisfy my ocd, but I'm happy with the lay out now.





And here's a pic of some clouds, for those that may not have seen any for while.

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76hotrodpinto

I have a short video of it now. I just have to figure out how to post it. I've never posted one before.
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76hotrodpinto

I used the factory coil power wire(tbird), aftermarket coil and a fancy racing toggle, no resistor. I ended up mounting the coil where the stereo would be. I'll be going mech-less when I do get around to the stereo.
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Wittsend

Yes, and to avoid troubles like that I opted to used the stock, 88 harness from the donor car. But, apparently not. There is a resistor wire in the TC harness (column), but I swapped the column too. Now, I did have to cut it (there was no other way of getting it out), but I soldered it and never altered its length.  Just one more mystery (and curse) of running a factory 87-88 harness. 76 HRP, did you use the stock coil and if so was there any resistor used?