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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

76hotrodpinto

I cleared out the bondo from the holes, and mounted a trunk badge. It's the only piece of trim on it, but it's all those chevy boys will need. They can know it was a Pinto that shattered that bow tie dream.

1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

76hotrodpinto

Gathered up most of the parts for a front end rebuild w/big brakes and tubular a-arms etc.. And I finally found a reasonably priced 55" jag irs to cram in there too, after some restoration. Coming up with a sub frame plan for the irs, and some more reinforcements for the  frame tie ins. Now I'm just waiting for the clouds to part this spring.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

72DutchWagon


74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dick1172762

Good to hear that!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

76hotrodpinto

I'm not giving up just yet.

Had a little set back, but I'm not done.

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74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dga57

Ouch!  So sorry to hear this!  Is there any chance of salvaging anything?


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Wittsend

??? This isn't the way these stories are suppose to end.

76hotrodpinto

Well... I'm ashamed to say, I lost my cool and the pinto is destroyed. Not wrecked, just shot, beaten and burned to the ground. Not my proudest moment. So I'll just thank all of you again... and bow out. Thank you.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

76hotrodpinto

Do any of you use an adjustable fpr? I'm looking at getting one, and a manual boost control. I'm getting a gillis for the boost control, but I'm looking for advice on the fpr. The prices are quite varied, and they don't seem to be too different. What are the proved performers? Or at least, which ones should be avoided? My fuel pump is an sp1154, it's a little more psi than the factory pump.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

76hotrodpinto

If I'm understanding the code definitions correctly, I think the 25 means the test was performed and there were no knocks to be detected during the test. If I don't do the wot test when prompted to, I get another code that says I didn't perform it correctly. It feels really smooth, and the response is great. I think it's about ready to mess with.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Wittsend

I'm not sure what the thing is about the full throttle test and the knock sensor. I do know it is to check the sweep of the TPS. Does that induce knock???  As stated the supposed KOER test is to (at some undetermined point) hit the intake manifold with a hammer to induce a frequency the knock sensor sees as engine knock. As stated you can also use the use the timing light and hammer whack to see if it is functioning (regardless of the testing in KOER).

76hotrodpinto

Interesting. My book says 25 is "no knock detected during test". 
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Wittsend

25 Knock sensor not tested (ignore if not pinging) – KS

"Testing would involve simulating operating conditions by connecting a timing light, starting the engine and tapping the manifold next to the Knock Sensor with a hammer. You should observe the timing retard momentarily."  From my understanding timing is pulled if the sensor is not functioning. This was general Ford information. I'm not sure how it applies to the T/C engine with an LA-3.

74 Was brake depressed after engine ID was received ?  Brake On Off (BOO) signal open or short to ground – BOO

After a bit of searching it seems the primary purpose of the BOO is for an Automatic to release the converter lock-up. It may have other applications (cruise control release, testing brake bulbs, etc.)  These latter seem more speculation than having proof.

Being you are running a T-5 I'd think the 74 Boo code seems irrelevant.

76hotrodpinto

Before I replaced the ect, it was causing a few codes. But now I only get code 11(allegedly all good), and 25 (no knock detected during wot). I wanted to make the ecu as happy as possible... before causing other codes!
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Wittsend

I'm, not exactly sure what the code 75 tests, but in the testing process you are suppose to tap the brake pedal.  I think there is also a steering test where you move the wheel???  I never heard anyone say it was an issue in a swap.  The code 34 EGR I'm guessing momentarily triggers the EGR to open and looks for the mixture ratio to change. I'd think it serves two purposes. One it let the ECU know the electric/vacuum circuit is working and two, it lets the tester know if the EGR might be clogged.  Again, I never heard of EGR (other than leaking) being a problem in these swaps. When I removed mine I saw no difference in function though the removal certainly made the looks under the hood improve.

I'd also assume you were not getting a code 11 without the system seeing the coolant temp when the ECU went through its internal check list.  My recollection from all my searches at NATO was that a miss (stumble) at idle seems to be very common and often not resolved.  Anyway, it is good to see you are moving in the right direction.

76hotrodpinto

Finally getting consistent code 11. It's running much smoother, and I'll bet it gets better mpg. Now I'm thinking about a manual boost control valve again.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

76hotrodpinto

According to the codes given, and the corresponding code definitions, that's all there is. Unless the computer and/or reader, or the manual are incorrect.
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The Whistler

I disagree. But if you say so!!!
Turbo is a way of life

76hotrodpinto

It's just an egr code and a code for the boo(brake system). There is no egr or fancy brake system.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

The Whistler

Why have you not fixed 34 and 75 they are easy to fix? And now are the cause of most of your problems!!
Turbo is a way of life

76hotrodpinto

So I put the temp sender back in and ran all the tests again. She did much better! Still throwing the #84 in koeo, but that's it. It throws #25, #34, #75 in koer. So all is good in LA3land. Apparently the computer likes to know the engine temp as much as I do. Still running rich, by the afm readings. It does have a slight stumble, barely even noticeable, and the exhaust doesn't smell rich in the slightest. So I'm going to run it for while and keep an eye on things.
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The Whistler

Turbo is a way of life

76hotrodpinto

Quote from: The Whistler on October 16, 2015, 06:55:58 AM
Where is your BAP sensor? Is it installed correctly? Post a pic of it as installed.

I didn't change anything in the bap circuit, but it's been relocated in the cab under the dash. It's mounted at the same angle it was under the hood. Not sure it mattered, just didn't want to make a new bracket, so I modded the one it had. I'm putting the temp sender back in today, and re-testing.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

dick1172762

36 to 40 MPG! WOW! My Fish carb on my Pinto will not do that good. Close but still less MPG's.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

The Whistler

Where is your BAP sensor? Is it installed correctly? Post a pic of it as installed.
Turbo is a way of life

76hotrodpinto

I'm not opposed to upgrading to the pimp or similar, but I'm not going for those kind of numbers. This is my daily driver. I didn't delete my circuit for the temp sender, just took out the factory sender and installed my mechanical gauge. I think I'll just have to reinstall the other one, and get a matching 12v temp gauge, instead of the mechanical.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

The Whistler

Gas mileage on my Pinto is about 36mpg and about 40mpg on my friends Mustang both with 2.3t. Tps voltage should be .84 to .96 at idle! And install the coolant temp sensor you are asking for trouble by trying to delete it! Also we have long ago left the stock ECU behind. Our 2.3's put out around 400hp on the ground! Also if you have done the swap properly and no sensor malfunctions you will only have the code for the egr.
Turbo is a way of life