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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Rebolting73

I have often pondered the hood clearance issue.  What if you just popped in the whole running turbo and cut a hillbilly hatch in the  hood and covered it with a scoop?  If you had a donor hood, you could play the turbo game before getting in too deep.  Going turbo is like the children's' song about the old woman that swallowed a fly...  Running a fuel injected 2.3 and T5 is such a huge upgrade that it really raises questions about running a turbo.  I wanted a turbo Pinto and was 100% in from the start, but it really took a ton of extra work to stuff it under the hood.  I had to do all the stuff that 65Shelby just said and plumb my intercooler down and around the front.  If you decided the turbo was not worth all the extra headache to get under a hood, you still have EEC IV, fuel injection and an overdrive transmission.

65ShelbyClone

You're going to have hood clearance problems regardless of how you change the intercooler location or plumbing because it's the intake manifold/TB/TB linkage that hits the hood. The only way around that is to use a "rotated" short upper intake that faces forward and change the plumbing. The rotated upper will also require either eliminating the EGR tube or fabricating a new one.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

76hotrodpinto

Me too. I haven't done something so out of my realm, in a long time, as far as motors go.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

dianne

Pinto_one has some great advise. I'm glad I'm doing the EFI to be honest, but kind of wish I was doing the turbo. I am looking forward to your project to be honest!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

76hotrodpinto

So rather than start butchering my factory turbo setup, that goes over the head and will cause hood clearance problems, I'm looking in to other options I've seen in pics that route the pluming forward through the core support, through an intercooler, and back through the other side of the core support. I feel this design is just cleaner looking and less of a pain in the posterior.

Now this all makes me a little nervous as I'm new to the turbo world. I went with this motor because it was touted as a good way to get one going without having to blow through a few blocks learning. Can I do this type of setup, and still not get in over my head with new tuning issues? I feel I have a good grasp on this factory efi/turbo, but it's pretty basic. Does this change everything tuning-wise? Or just some extra plumbing to get around the motor,with maybe some minor tuning changes. Not trying to go bigger... yet... just clean and simple.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

76hotrodpinto

Hmmm... never tried that stuff. And it's at auto parts stores?
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Pinturbo75

go get a can of aircraft aluminum  stripper at the local parts store..10 bucks
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

76hotrodpinto

I had decided to polish up the cast valve cover and put it on a motor that is actually fuel injected and turbo. I thought I'd just blast the paint off and get polishing. I was wrong, What the hell is that paint made of?! I started with soda... not even a chip. So I prepped for some hard media... nothing. I've blasted through powder coating and plastic coating, but damn! It won't run right if the valve cover isn't shiny!
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

76hotrodpinto

Perfect, thanks. I think I'll set the turbo motor on to the trans that's in the car to get it settled in, then swap out the old trans for the t5 afterwards. Less to guess that way.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Wittsend

If a picture is worth a thousand words hopefully this will help. Thought I had a picture of the opening, but I don't.  Anyway, the tunnel just needs to be cut forward about 3".  The cover I used is from the Turbo Coupe, just hammered to fit. It covered the whole opening.

  I shortened  the shifter (it is too high) by cutting and welding it and then made the plate to move it rearward (it is too far forward). I'm 6ft. and prefer the seat back and leaned.   Getting the shifter right is tricky. The angles need to be just right otherwise the motion becomes awkward. I could still use it back 2"-3" ideally. But, where it is..., is the compromise one must accept.  I tried angling it by pivoting on the lower bolt, but that is when the awkwardness started.

It was about 6 years ago and I don't recall the install method. But, I'm not an engine/Trans as one piece kind of guy.  So I know it wasn't that. Which went first engine or trans I don't exactly recall.  With the tight fitting I'm guessing I put the trans to the (dangling) motor before I welded the motor mount in.

76hotrodpinto

I guess I can count myself lucky to have the 76. Even though I lust for an early model! On the subject of the t5 install, is the shifter offset consistent enough that someone could have a template or just just a few measurements they can share with me? Or is it a try and see type scenario? And which way is going to be easier, given I don't have spiffy car lift, dropping the motor/tranny married, or individually?
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Pintosopher

Quote from: Wittsend on January 29, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
Dianne,
Putting a 2.3 (Turbo) in a '71-'73 car is like driving a bus through a narrow ally. The problems that the '71-73 cars have are:

1. The existing motor mounts need to be cut out and the 2.3 mount need to be welded in.  The tricky part is the pan clearance at the rack and intake plumbing at the top with the hood (on turbo and I assume NA injected cars).  There is about 3/16" clearance at the top and bottom. I have the lowered center section valve cover/intake system and I still filed the top of the throttle body as much as I dare to get the 3/16" clearance. SO..., before the motor mounts get welded in you have to be dead sure about their placement.  I had my engine in/out 7 times before I was willing to commit.  I see you have a '73 like I have. This car has a one year only steering rack where the pinion housing is rather bulbous.  I both hammered the oil pan and filed the pinion housing for clearance (do at your own risk).

2. Ideally you will run a larger than the stock 17" radiator.  To get the Pinto 20" radiator to fit you need to widen the opening. There are likely other options, but you should enlarge the opening for full air flow, not just put in a larger radiator with restricted air flow. Related is the fact that the '71-'73 cars have a shorter engine bay and clearance between the water pump nose and the radiator is about 3/8". I opted to run a "pusher" fan from the front.

Otherwise the other alterations mentioned are needed for all Pinto's.
Hmm, all reasons why I want to stay with a 2.0L EAO or Cossie YBG . I had installed a 4 core radiator, and a Pusher fan in front of the Rad, my competition accused me of turning on the fan to increase my speed and lower my times while racing ;D  Never overheated in Sacto Summers at autocross with fixed fan on W/ Pump removed..
If you buy the goodies From Burton in UK, you can install a 2.3L Duratec from a Focus and have easy 150Hp with little mods and great Open hood Penache'

Lots of options, all it takes is money and sweat! 8)
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

Wittsend

Dianne,
Putting a 2.3 (Turbo) in a '71-'73 car is like driving a bus through a narrow ally. The problems that the '71-73 cars have are:

1. The existing motor mounts need to be cut out and the 2.3 mount need to be welded in.  The tricky part is the pan clearance at the rack and intake plumbing at the top with the hood (on turbo and I assume NA injected cars).  There is about 3/16" clearance at the top and bottom. I have the lowered center section valve cover/intake system and I still filed the top of the throttle body as much as I dare to get the 3/16" clearance. SO..., before the motor mounts get welded in you have to be dead sure about their placement.  I had my engine in/out 7 times before I was willing to commit.  I see you have a '73 like I have. This car has a one year only steering rack where the pinion housing is rather bulbous.  I both hammered the oil pan and filed the pinion housing for clearance (do at your own risk).

2. Ideally you will run a larger than the stock 17" radiator.  To get the Pinto 20" radiator to fit you need to widen the opening. There are likely other options, but you should enlarge the opening for full air flow, not just put in a larger radiator with restricted air flow. Related is the fact that the '71-'73 cars have a shorter engine bay and clearance between the water pump nose and the radiator is about 3/8". I opted to run a "pusher" fan from the front.

Otherwise the other alterations mentioned are needed for all Pinto's.

dianne

Ummm, so mine is going to have issues?
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

76hotrodpinto

Quote from: Wittsend on January 28, 2015, 02:53:51 PM
The 74 and up cars, which you obviously have are a lot easier. Rack clearances, motor mounts and radiator size options are not problems you will encounter.

  There is the battery tray issue. My 73 was badly rusted so I just put in a new panel that was advantageous to a turbo. Options are the trunk or the drivers front (move the washer tank). Be aware of the alternator or other accessories on that side if you use the battery in the front.

There is a bolt (stud) issue on the outer exhaust where it turns 90 degrees downward. Shorten the stud as much as reasonable and possibly drill a hole to facilitate tightening. From there I used the stock T/C downpipe and had some clearance issues with the frame rail. Slightly flattening the out edge fixed that.

I have the 87-88 intercooler in my '73 and other than the scoop to feed the intercooler the hood closes without issue - BARELY and I do mean BARELY.  Your engine has the taller center section of the valve cover and that might raise the air plumbing..

I used the fan motor from an MG (reverse the polarity) and have sufficient exhaust clearance. Some opt for the A/C model that puts the motor in the interior.

The T-5 has clearance issues (if you use the bell crank) with the cable and the crossmember. A small offsetting plate fixes that. The drive shaft is dependent upon the rearend used.  I went from a /C-4/6.75" rear to a T-5/ 8" rear and the shaft swapped right over.

Mounting the fuel pump, return lines, harness etc. you just sort as you go.

I did a two part write-up on my '73 wagon swap using a stock '88 T/C engine - T-5.  You might glean something from it.
http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=11908.msg76893#msg76893  http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=11909.msg76894#msg76894

That's just the type of stuff I'm looking for. Thank you!
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Wittsend

The 74 and up cars, which you obviously have are a lot easier. Rack clearances, motor mounts and radiator size options are not problems you will encounter.

  There is the battery tray issue. My 73 was badly rusted so I just put in a new panel that was advantageous to a turbo. Options are the trunk or the drivers front (move the washer tank). Be aware of the alternator or other accessories on that side if you use the battery in the front.

There is a bolt (stud) issue on the outer exhaust where it turns 90 degrees downward. Shorten the stud as much as reasonable and possibly drill a hole to facilitate tightening. From there I used the stock T/C downpipe and had some clearance issues with the frame rail. Slightly flattening the out edge fixed that.

I have the 87-88 intercooler in my '73 and other than the scoop to feed the intercooler the hood closes without issue - BARELY and I do mean BARELY.  Your engine has the taller center section of the valve cover and that might raise the air plumbing..

I used the fan motor from an MG (reverse the polarity) and have sufficient exhaust clearance. Some opt for the A/C model that puts the motor in the interior.

The T-5 has clearance issues (if you use the bell crank) with the cable and the crossmember. A small offsetting plate fixes that. The drive shaft is dependent upon the rearend used.  I went from a /C-4/6.75" rear to a T-5/ 8" rear and the shaft swapped right over.

Mounting the fuel pump, return lines, harness etc. you just sort as you go.

I did a two part write-up on my '73 wagon swap using a stock '88 T/C engine - T-5.  You might glean something from it.
http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=11908.msg76893#msg76893  http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=11909.msg76894#msg76894

76hotrodpinto

Quote from: dianne on January 28, 2015, 07:19:38 AM
I think you should rip that turbo stuff off and send it to me so you can have a nice EFI ;-)  LOL

Pictures also as you do it!!! :D

I'm so bad about the picture thing. I'm lucky to get a before and after. I just don't think to stop and take pics. I'll try though. Without the turbo, I wouldn't even want the efi.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

dianne

I think you should rip that turbo stuff off and send it to me so you can have a nice EFI ;-)  LOL

Pictures also as you do it!!! :D
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

76hotrodpinto

I'm shining up this motor...








And stuffing it in here!



I've done a ton of motor swaps, but this will be the first turbo. The motor has been put in a courier truck, and run, before pulled. Married to a t5. I have questions about some clearances. Will my hood close? How about heater motor and battery? I'm familiar with most trans. issues I will encounter, I think. And of course I will be looking to max out the hp on this setup, but let's get her in there first. How about some often overlooked issues? I understand this is a good motor to learn the art of the turbo, without to much financial hardship. Please and thank you!
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.