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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dick1172762

If you still need weather striping for your Pinto with a trunk, go to  http://www.weatherstripspecial.com  They have it in stock.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

It smoked all the time. The engine had massive leaks all over and when I pulled the head the head gasket showed age. The car currently has an engine from my 77 parts car and it had 3k approximately after a rebuild. It's ok but higher miles than the car and original rings. The 80 on the other hand smoked the entire time it ran. There is no crosshatch pattern in the cylinders so it will be getting honed and new rings, as well as new bearings. Top end was tore apart for new valve seals in 2012 but not finished.


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1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dick1172762

On a high mileage 2300 that smokes when its started after sitting over night, the problem is the valve stem seals most of the time. Easy fix and cheap too.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

Well the leak has returned on the car. I went to a car show & parked it in the garage afterwards. I noticed a puddle under the car, but not horribly big. When I was leaving the car didn't want to go very well until warmed up but finally was OK. I haven't checked the fluid level yet but when I was at the garage I looked & it's not big but not small either. It leaks from the front and RF corner, same area as before. I think the pan may be warped but will find out more when I pull the pan tomorrow. Additionally the oil pan has also developed a leak at the rear. It's not the rear main oil seal from what I can tell, and seems to be coming from the back. For now I will monitor the leak & figure out what to do later. On the upside her brakes are good, her power steering seems sealed, and the rear differential is good.

In the past I've said I don't particularly like the squared front end of the 79-80 Pintos. While it is not my favorite it is seeming more like my car. I think her issues stem from her current heart. She has the heart of Harold II and is acting like the little B*** that Harold II was the entire 11 years I owned her lol. Soon I will be tearing in to her engine and inspecting it so I can start the rebuild. I already have the Ranger cam, rockers, and followers. I just need to get some new rings and bearings. Since she smoked I will also get a bore gauge, and engine hone to remove any glazing. I had the head off at one time and there wasn't any bad damage in the cylinders.

Since her original engine only had 91k miles hopefully she won't need a new crankshaft. I will also get a micrometer so I can inspect her crank journals.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dick1172762

As far as I know, there on the passenger side on both tranies. Easy to spot too.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

Is that on the c3 c4 or both?


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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dick1172762

Quote from: r4pinto on July 29, 2017, 07:52:06 AM
Drove the car today to my workout as I wanted to and it did good. The speedometer is ok. Found it was possibly unplugged and works as far as I know. I need to have someone go 70 and see what mine is registering to see lol. I did however find a slight issue with the transmission. On the passenger side it drips a little. We'll find out. Tomorrow I will jack up the car and inspect it. It's only a couple drips but that's it. Not too bad but want it fixed if I can. If it involves pulling the pan I will leave it for now.


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Passenger side is where the lines to the cooler are. Leaks there are common.
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dga57

Glad to hear you had her out for a drive this morning.  Good work!


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r4pinto

Drove the car today to my workout as I wanted to and it did good. The speedometer is ok. Found it was possibly unplugged and works as far as I know. I need to have someone go 70 and see what mine is registering to see lol. I did however find a slight issue with the transmission. On the passenger side it drips a little. We'll find out. Tomorrow I will jack up the car and inspect it. It's only a couple drips but that's it. Not too bad but want it fixed if I can. If it involves pulling the pan I will leave it for now.


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1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dick1172762

Quote from: pintosopher on July 28, 2017, 09:00:52 AM
Good to hear that you are being prepared, that being said , you'll do well the show.
BTW u can never have enough spare parts or enough special tools, (Ask me how I know!)

Pintosopher, a biological anomaly with gearhead propensities :o
I'll second the part about never having too many parts. I have now sold off all of my 2.0L stuff to SCCA racer mostly. Never see an ad anymore for 2.0L stuff. Still there in merry old England but for $$$$. Those of you with 2.0L Pintos, take VERY good care of them.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Pintosopher

Good to hear that you are being prepared, that being said , you'll do well the show.
BTW u can never have enough spare parts or enough special tools, (Ask me how I know!)

Pintosopher, a biological anomaly with gearhead propensities :o
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

r4pinto

Drove the car to work today after having to jump start the car. I think it just needed to charge back up after draining, although I'm concerned about the condition of the battery. When I tested it this morning it showed the battery to be weak but had a good charge. The starter previously tested good so don't think that's bad.

Anyway, besides the battery issue I did find the speedometer has failed. When I drove to work I got a few miles away from home and it started making an odd noise & stopped reading. Occasionally the needle would bounce to around 45 & then drop back down. I couldn't turn around and get the Malibu since I would be late to work so I kept up with traffic. I have a spare cluster at home and will swap it out so I have a working speedometer in the car.

Still, not a failure since I knew there was a chance the speedometer was going bad, and since the cable is from 2011 and spun freely I know the cable is good. I changed the cable thinking that was what caused my issue & found out it was not. I will keep the old cable as a spare since it apparently wasn't bad. Can never have too many spare parts
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

New transmission dipstick tube o-ring. It apparently was leaking at some time. The previous owners used RTV on the dipstick tube. I used to be surprised with what I saw but now not so much. The leak however was from a piece of gasket that was stuck to the transmission case, and a big one at that. cleaned the gasket off the case, wiped off the pan gasket, and put it all back together. Took the car for a drive and all is well. The brakes feel great with a good, solid pedal, and besides a speedometer that may not be accurate all is well.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dick1172762

Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

Quote from: Reeves1 on July 27, 2017, 07:48:38 AM
I've seen leaks from the dip stick holder O ring failing....

Reeves, funny you say that. I just got off the phone with O'reilly auto parts to order one. I think I may have to junk the car after this though. I don't know if I can afford it... That whole 29 cents might bankrupt me  ;D
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Reeves1

I've seen leaks from the dip stick holder O ring failing....

r4pinto

Well I have more issues to worry about than that. I come home and go in the garage to add differential fluid. Transmission fluid all over the ground. Not sure where it is coming from at the moment. I am going to get a bite to eat and start diagnosing the issue
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dick1172762

Those air compressor are dirt cheap at Harbor freight. I've never had a tire they wouldn't inflate too. Walley world has them too.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

I've seen those before as well & may have to invest in one eventually. For now brake fluid in the bottle with the line in the fluid will work fine lol.

As for the car I got the transmission seal and driveshaft installed. Had to jump the car, since the battery was low but once I did the car ran somewhat decent. I really need to replace that carburetor. The 77 never did run too well on it but better than nothing. Once I got the car to stay running I got transmission fluid added to the car. I also added gear lube but need to get another bottle. The hatch seal I installed did not work so I will be buying one with a bigger seal area. The one had no compression to it with the hatch closed, so hopefully a different one will.

If all goes according to plan I will be driving that car to work tomorrow. It's suppose to rain & I want to test out the wiper motor. I replaced it but want to make sure all is well before a long trip. If it's going to act up I want to be close to home.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dick1172762

I've used one of those little air compress'r that you carry in your car to add pressure to the brake system for brake bleeding. Worked like a charm. Just make sure the master cylinder does not run dry.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

Quote from: Reeves1 on July 25, 2017, 12:25:58 PM
If I were you ... bleed the brakes at least twice. Lots. Make sure it flows CLEAN !

I use the clear tube into a jar method.
Tried and true method. Been doing it that way for years.

As for the fluid flowing clean I had previously bled the brakes before multiple times at each wheel to get ALL the old rusty fluid out. All that remains is clean fluid. Only have to bleed them since the master cylinder failed and got air in the lines when I replaced the bad master cylinder.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Reeves1

If I were you ... bleed the brakes at least twice. Lots. Make sure it flows CLEAN !

I use the clear tube into a jar method.

dick1172762

If its not fun you shouldn't be doing it. If you plan to fix it up to sell, forget it because you'll lose money. Been there and done that although yes, I should have kept them. This is a hobby plain and simple, so if its not fun find a different hobby. I've been working on Pinto's since 1972 and the fun is still there even though there were bad times along the way. If you really hate working on it, sell it to some one who will enjoy and have fun with it like I have. This post is not directed at any one person. Its just one of my rants. It is directed at all Pinto owners. And please post on the Pinto web site to insure its long life. We the members really need this site as both of the Mustang II sites have gone under. Lets not be the next one to fold. PLEASE!
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

Pretty much what happened. Ran outta cash, brain overloaded, had to work on my Dad's daily driver for a month. Fun stuff. Now his car needs more work. But I'm putting my car first this time. His car sits most the time anyway. Didn't get the seal last night but plan to tonight. I will then install it & reinstall the driveshaft, as well as pull the wheels & bleed the brakes. It has a solid pedal but since I disconnected the lines at the master cylinder I want to be sure it's good. I can then possibly remove the seats so I can paint the carpeting. I might not since I will be driving the car this weekend but might. We'll see. Most important is getting the car drivable & passing the first test drive since all the repairs.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Reeves1

Sort of the same way I work on my cars.
Go hard till brain hurts and/or money runs out.

Pause

Back at it.

Gotta keep the fun in it !

r4pinto

Thanks. It helped having my Dad's car distract me, and my house distract me. I get going, then stop when I get annoyed. Since it's a project I take a step back and come back when I have a clear head. Although I hate tripping over the car's original engine as it sits in front of the car lol. I think it's safe to say I got more done yesterday than the rest of the year.

As for what's next I will pull the seats so I can paint the carpet. it's engine paint so not ideal but the carpet is garbage anyway. It needs new but floors need patched so gotta make do for now until I can repair the floors
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dick1172762

The way your doing the work sound like a great way to prevent burn out that kill's many Pinto projects. Keep up the good work. The car will be worth it.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

I also replaced the speedometer cable with the newer one from the 77. Spun the old cable and could feel it binding in the housing. It'll be nice to test that cable when I go down the road and hopefully have no more bouncy speedo.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Quote from: dga57 on July 24, 2017, 09:37:46 AM
With all you've accomplished, that sounds like a reasonable and reachable goal!!!


Dwayne :)
Thanks Dwayne,

I'll be hitting the gym tonight after work, then going to get a new tailshaft seal for the transmission. I just can't take a chance of a leak due to not replacing a $3 seal while the driveshaft is already out.  Once I do that I will charge the battery, add transmission fluid, some gear lube to the rear differential, and be good to bleed the brakes.... All theoretically of course.

So, in 2012 I bought the car only to have a fire. Didn't do anything from 2012-2016. Since 2016 I've done the following:

engine swap, repaint engine compartment,  rebuild entire brake hydraulic system & parking brake system, fix electrical short, install new radio, fix bad door pin switch, differential fluid & U-joint replacement, transmission fluid and filter change, power steering pump replacement, fuel line repair, rear shock replacement, paint carpet.

Quite a bit in a 12 month period.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

With all you've accomplished, that sounds like a reasonable and reachable goal!!!


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.