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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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WTR 70

can you post pics of the manifolds or email them to me?

Reeves1

Quote from: WTR 70 on October 02, 2011, 11:49:31 PM
should the stock manifolds clear with room or should the battery still be moved

I cannot answer the battery question, but my 72 with the 302w in it has the manifolds on & they clear everything.

RSM

If your using a Pinto with the 2.3 you leave the passenger side frame mount where it is. The drivers side mount is moved back 1". The Mustang II engine mounts fit right on them. Using a Mustang II oil pan gives clearance for the manual rack and pinion steering. A modified oil pan can be used.

WTR 70

how do the mustang 2 motor mounts work? does it make it a bolt in or do you still have to move something?

WTR 70

should the stock manifolds clear with room or should the battery still be moved

71hotrodpinto

Quote from: 71pintoracer on September 29, 2011, 09:04:49 PM
I put mine inside the trunk and ran a small diamater rod from it out through the tail light lens with a small round knob on it and a label on the lens that says "push off" per rules. Just a small hole drilled in a spare lens and the original put away for safe keeping!

Exactly what im talking about. A little innovation and a bit of work. Get an optima battery and i dont think you'll need a battery box or a firewall. But i may be mistaken per NHRA rules. They are usually over the top on things like this anyways. As far as just a place to mount it that's something you'll have to come up with.

However , unless you wrap ALL the tubes ( which will overheat and degrade the headers over a very short time ) you'll bake that battery in a few hundred miles. I'm just speaking from experience.
Wish you luck no matter what!
Lets see some pics!


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71pintoracer

I put mine inside the trunk and ran a small diamater rod from it out through the tail light lens with a small round knob on it and a label on the lens that says "push off" per rules. Just a small hole drilled in a spare lens and the original put away for safe keeping!
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

WTR 70

I actually looked at a drag wagon a while ago, and he put his kill switch in his tail light lens, he said everyone told him it would crack, but it worked great

RSM

For right now I wont be drag racing the car. It's just got to run and be driveable enough to get it on and off of a trailer for car shows.  Per NHRA rules the master switch has to be accessible so thats not happening right now.

71hotrodpinto

About the battery in the front. Id reconsider. The stock location boils batterys with the 4cly as it is. Plus theres the weight transfer issue if your drag racing a front heavy car.
I didnt even consider keeping it up front when i did mine just for the reliability factor.
Maybe you could put a kill switch in the backup lens or some other conspicuous location that would keep you from drilling holes in the sheetmetal?
Just some thoughts!


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

smallfryefarm

I used 71 pintoracers post and made his mounts, made my oil pan to get the motor low as possible and it closes under a stock hood, but its a little snug. Had to move the battery back cause of the headers.
Smallfryefarms Horsepower Ranch

RSM

I'm going to attempt to leave the battery in the original location on mine. If I can find a battery with the right dimensions and enough CCA's I'll try it. I think I might have to wrap 1 header tube to keep the heat down under the battery. The only reason why I want to try this is since moving the battery away from the stock location means you have to have a kill switch per NHRA rules for racing. I dont want to drill any holes in the car and I would be very limited on where I can put the battery with the roll cage I have in the car.

WTR 70

so whats better, mechanical or electric fuel pump? and does the battery have to be moved out of the engine compartment?

Pinto5.0

Quote from: WTR 70 on September 26, 2011, 08:52:53 PM
That is really suprising there is that much difference, i always kinda figured they were realtively the same chassis's

I always thought they shared more myself till I wanted to use repop MII floorpans on my Pinto & began to realize absolutely nothing interchanges.

Quote from: 79prostreet on September 26, 2011, 08:24:14 PMFrom what I deducted the motor frame mounts had the same location to rack/ crossmember so they allow it to work on the Pinto,just a little tight on the transmission side.

If that was true the sway bar would fit. I've never measured but I "think" the engines all mount about 3/4" to 1 1/4" forward in an MII compared to a Pinto. MII & Pinto front framerails dont interchange & I'm betting if you measured engine mount bolt hole locations in both cars you would find the MII holes slightly farther forward from the crossmember. I would also bet the mounts are 3/8" to 5/8" higher on the frame rails as well. That tiny bit makes a HUGE difference in fit.
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WTR 70

That is really suprising there is that much difference, i always kinda figured they were realtively the same chassis's

79prostreet

I pulled a tape measure on a Mustang ll and found it was 5'' longer from cowl to radiator support,the pc from bottom of steering shaft to rack looked about 3'' to 4'' longer. That's why a v8 fits so much better and would think a better weight transfer for racing. From what I deducted the motor frame mounts had the same location to rack/ crossmember so they allow it to work on the Pinto,just a little tight on the transmission side.
79prostreet

Pinto5.0

The thing is that the crossmember & suspension pieces are the same between both cars but the engine bays are completely different. Inner fenders, core support, firewall etc. do not interchange & frankly it's amazing that the MII oil pan is even close enough to allow the swap.

The framerails are the same width which is why the mounts will fit but the V8 sits a tad farther forward & slightly higher in the MII  but you can't do that in a Pinto so it's a tight fit.
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WTR 70

so i looked at a 4 cylinder mustang 2 tipped on its side, junkyard, got a set of shock plates for the rear axle to start fabbing up the traction bar setup, anyway, the 4 cylinder looked like it had a lot of room around the cross member and sway bar. just wondering how much different the 302 mustang 2 oil pan is from that or how they are different. i know the 4 cyl to 302 is different, but was wondering if they sat lower or what in them

WTR 70

that seems like the way to go to me then, all the other plates require an electric fuel pump that i have seen

71pintoracer

You mean as far as clearance? no, none at all, used a stock 302 fuel pump but I did relocate the fuel lines because on the '71-'73 body they run inside of the frame rail.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

WTR 70

Quote from: 71pintoracer on September 22, 2011, 07:53:38 PM
Yes thats mine. Doing the mounts that way clears up a lot of room for the starter and the headers. As far as the hood, I think a few have tucked the engine under a stock hood with a low intake and low profile air cleaner just because they wanted it to look as stock as possible, but even a small hood scoop will help and unless you have some very quiet mufflers it's not going to be a secret very long. I can't seem to fool anyone.

Also did you have any issues with the fuel pump?

WTR 70

Quote from: 71pintoracer on September 22, 2011, 07:53:38 PM
Yes thats mine. Doing the mounts that way clears up a lot of room for the starter and the headers. As far as the hood, I think a few have tucked the engine under a stock hood with a low intake and low profile air cleaner just because they wanted it to look as stock as possible, but even a small hood scoop will help and unless you have some very quiet mufflers it's not going to be a secret very long. I can't seem to fool anyone.

HAHAHA ya im just going for the fooling people while the car is off, after that nobody will be wondering  :)

Pinto5.0

Quote from: 71pintoracer on September 22, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Pinto5.0, hard to tell w/o a mII pan to compare it to but the issue is where the pan angles down to the sump. The mII pan is flat not angled at all and kind of dished out right at the sump to give more clearance for the rack. I had to use one to make my headers fit right. I've seen those low profile pans on e-bay as well, sure would be nice to know if they would work because the mII pans are pretty rare although they do pop up from time to time.

Like I said I was gonna make my own frame mounts so that slight angle was no biggie. I was gonna position the engine to clear everything THEN make frame mounts to keep it there. I was also gonna use standard 302 rubber mounts since I have a new pair already. Now that I have the '73 all that out the window since I have to swap the crossmember.
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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

71pintoracer

Yes thats mine. Doing the mounts that way clears up a lot of room for the starter and the headers. As far as the hood, I think a few have tucked the engine under a stock hood with a low intake and low profile air cleaner just because they wanted it to look as stock as possible, but even a small hood scoop will help and unless you have some very quiet mufflers it's not going to be a secret very long. I can't seem to fool anyone.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

WTR 70

Quote from: 71pintoracer on September 22, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
no difference in height just the weight issue. It's a really tight fit to get it under the hood.
Pinto5.0, hard to tell w/o a mII pan to compare it to but the issue is where the pan angles down to the sump. The mII pan is flat not angled at all and kind of dished out right at the sump to give more clearance for the rack. I had to use one to make my headers fit right. I've seen those low profile pans on e-bay as well, sure would be nice to know if they would work because the mII pans are pretty rare although they do pop up from time to time.
(Thanks for posting the link to my swap Reeves1! :) )


i believe your car is the one i saw with the seperated motor mounts that bolt to the heads wasnt it?

WTR 70

so i should just do an after market intake and cut the hood

71pintoracer

Quote from: WTR 70 on September 22, 2011, 06:22:44 PM
is the height different from a 4bl to a 2bl stock cast intake?
no difference in height just the weight issue. It's a really tight fit to get it under the hood.
Pinto5.0, hard to tell w/o a mII pan to compare it to but the issue is where the pan angles down to the sump. The mII pan is flat not angled at all and kind of dished out right at the sump to give more clearance for the rack. I had to use one to make my headers fit right. I've seen those low profile pans on e-bay as well, sure would be nice to know if they would work because the mII pans are pretty rare although they do pop up from time to time.
(Thanks for posting the link to my swap Reeves1! :) )
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

WTR 70

is the height different from a 4bl to a 2bl stock cast intake?

RSM

The intake is called an Xelerator...not sure who made it. It's not an air gap but sits higher than a factory cast iron 4bbl intake manifold.

Pinto5.0

I finally snapped a few pics of the pan I got off Ebay a couple years ago. I haven't been able to compare it directly to the MII pan but it looks close. I was going to make my own frame mounts anyway & I had to cut the hood for the tunnel ram so if I had to raise the engine slightly to make it work it was no biggie. For $69 bucks with the pickup it was worth the shot.





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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze