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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

73 Wagon Project - Brownie

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dave1987

Thanks Walter! I would love to come pick it up but I don't have a vehicle big enough to get it at the moment, kind of why I'm trying to get the wagon going! lol I might be able to put it in the trunk of my Saturn Ion, but can't do that until thursday if that works with you.

Day on Brownie cut short, had to take Tia to the hospital, she's been sick for a few days and hasn't seemed to be getting better. They think it's rotavirus. They said we're doing really well taking care of her but want to get a stool sample and run some tests. So they sent us home with some small bottles and tongue depressors to collect a sample and then drop off at the hospital for them.

Wife said I could go back to work on the car but I feel more like staying at home with the family right now and keeping and eye on Tia.



So, today I was able drain and drop the transmission. Took a total of two hours to drain the pan and torque converter and disconnect everything. The bell housing bolts are hard to get to, and getting to the torque converter drain plug and flywheel bolts is very difficult as the cross member is in the way, but I got it done!

I couldn't reach the fluid cooler lines with the transmission still in the car so I let it drop downwards a bit to reach the fittings. While removing one one of them the fitting broke, threaded part sheered right off the elbow with VERY LITTLE effort. So I left to pick up a replacement fitting at Andy's Supply downtown (they specialize in brass, steel and copper fittings/tubing and hoses). I had them make and re-form the return line for the transmission since the previous owner had repaired a crack in the line using a section of rubber hose and a hose clamp. While I was at Andy's supply, I stopped by Transtar next door, a local transmission parts supplier, and picked up the trust washer spacer/shim kit, just in case I need it to set the end play. On the way home I picked up the new modulator valve at O'Reillys.

Once I got home I pulled the transmission out to the end of the driveway and got the pressure washer out to clean it up a bit before disassembly. Not as perfectly clean as I wanted to get it, but it really seems like the metal is stained in some places. Some of the dirt on the bell refused to come off with just the water from the pressure washer alone and I had to hit it with some carb cleaner and then brake cleaner to soften it up some.

Only pictures I have of the project so far is the before and after of the transmission cleaning. Here ya go!

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

fast64ranchero

Dave, I have the stock C-4 out of my 71, 3K on rebuild, should be able to put it in and go, I think the price is right for you
(free) I also have a 72 parts car if you need anything off it, I also know where another 72-73 wagon is, it's in good shape
... 
71 Pro-Street pinto 2.3T powered
72 Treasure Valley Special 26K miles pinto
72 old V-8 parts Pinto
73 pinto, the nice one...

larjohnson

Yay!!!!! hope all goes well with the rebuild.....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dave1987

Rebuild kit is in town at O'Reilly's! Has everything I'll need! Only a matter of time to rebuild it now! :D
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I wish it were that simple! Lol

Once I get this new phone paid off I can get the rebiuld kit for the tranny and get her back on the road full time again.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

r4pinto

Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dave1987

thanks for the link SRT! I believe the kit I am planning to get for the transmission has a speedi sleeve in it, hopefully that will solve the problem.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Srt

http://www.skf.com/portal/skf_us/home/news?contentId=513135

Quote from: Yelby on June 24, 2010, 12:47:55 PM
Glad you got back to working on Brownie!

I wonder if the driveshaft yoke has a nick or groove in it that is allowing fluid to leak past the new seal?

How's your family doing?

Let us know when Brownie is road ready.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

dave1987

Well it won't be going anywhere now! I had to take the driver side brake line off the rear axle to put on the 78's new axle since the axle is from a 73. I put the one that WENT to the axle in the 78, in a box of parts in the back of my storage unit. For some reason, being as organized as I am, I didn't rubber band or zip tie it to the passenger side brake line like I normally would.

So, before the wagon can go ANYWHERE, I have to dig into storage and pull out that other brake line and bleed the rear brake system again! Good for the transmission! :P
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

r4pinto

Dave, Brownie looks really good. Make sure to get that tranny leak fixed asap, as I learned the hard way. It is much easier to replace the seal than it is to replace the tranny. That was not fun at all.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dave1987

Thanks guys and gals, I appreciate your support! Family is doing alright, we're battling with the state to get some help with putting food on the table, paying off a settlement with an old loan on the 30th, no more worrying about going to court! :D

Tomorrow the work on Brownie is going to go on hold, the 78 is being troublesome. I need to adjust the clutch on it since I can hear the throwout bearing being tossed around a bit when engaging the clutch, and it's time for a tune up. Got new plugs today and may be swapping out the cap and rotor tomorrow if it's nasty (yay for lifetime warranties! :D)). I will also be purging the cooling system of air, again, and resetting timing and fuel/air mixture to get it running smooth again.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

blupinto

Dave I so admire your work on Brownie!  My fingers are still crossed that everything will work out right for you andyour family.
One can never have too many Pintos!

Yelby

Glad you got back to working on Brownie!

I wonder if the driveshaft yoke has a nick or groove in it that is allowing fluid to leak past the new seal?

How's your family doing?

Let us know when Brownie is road ready.

dave1987

Well yesterday I jacked up Brownie to take a look at the source of the leak. I found two places it's leaking from...

1) The output shaft seal where the drive shaft yoke slides into the tail shaft of the transmission. I replaced that seal with a new one and for some reason it has a pretty consistent drip. The seal has a one year warrenty so I'm going to take it out and exchange it at Autozone.

2) The intermediate servo cover. I tightened up the bolts and it seems to have stopped. For some odd reason the bolt on the top-rear of the cover was missing, like the previous owner attempted a fix but failed and forgot to put everything back on.  :surprised: I found a bolt that was nearly identical and tightened that up.

The intermediate servo cover seems to have stopped leaking, the output shaft seal drips just a bit, but it was still smoking a little bit.

I also replaced the two inch rubber line for the modulator valve which was so old it wasn't tight around the steel line or the valve nipple!

I took the pressure washer out (with the car still on jack stands) and blasted everything I could off the bottom of the car and in the wheel wells. You wouldn't believe how much crud came off the car! Big ole' stones of tar and sand packed together coming out of the wheel wells, a flow of black dirt out of all the trim, it was nasty! You can definitely tell the car is cleaner now!

The transmission grabs first gear a little quicker now, not GREAT, but it IS better. I think tomorrow I might drop the trans and see about cleaning everything up and do a full fluid change again. Maybe do a band adjustment to be sure everything is snug.

I think what's burning off the car now is just the residue on the pipe and surrounding surfaces, I'm keeping my fingers crossed though!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Once the tranny is done I need to swap out the windshield for the good one I have in storage and get an electric buffer to clean up the paint. After that it's ready for the same treatment my 78 has been getting. Little things here and there to make it just right! :)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Yelby

Hey Dave,

Maybe the metal lines leading from the transmission to the bottom of the radiator have rusted through or the fittings are loose where they screw into the tranny.

Let us know what the the source of the leak was.

Really enjoying reading about your rebuild.  Would like to purchase the car and continue the restoration after you get the tranny fixed.  I'd fly out and would drive the car home, thus the car needs to be road worthy!

dave1987

Brownie's transmission is spraying fluid out the side somewhere, and all over the exhaust pipe. Today it was so bad the car was smoking down the road!

I'm taking it back to my parents tonight to park it back on the side of the house until I can get the trans rebuild kit and fix everything once and for all!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Checked Brownie's transmission fluid a couple days ago, was really low. I did see some trans fluid on the undercarriage of the car before when I rigged the exhaust pipe to stay in place before I drove it to the muffler shop.

Today I added two quarts of fluid and it's at a good level again. It took drive quicker than it has been lately and it took it for a spin around the block, ran great. Tomorrow we will see how well it takes drive when I leave for work. Hopefully that's all it was.

I need to get it over to my parents to drop the transmission and rebuild it with a kit and trace down where the fluid is coming from! Odd thing is, there is no fluid puddling or dripping on the ground under the car, it must be spraying while driving.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

larjohnson

Dave:  The repair on the grille looks amazing.  I'm glad you and Brownie are happy.  Keep up the good work, the car is looking amazing.  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Very nice repair, Dave.  My Lincoln Mark VIII has a broken grille and although I plan to replace it, I think I'm going to see whether I can make a reasonable repair on this one so I'll have a spare on hand.  You just never know! 
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

And two shots of the grill showing how well the repaired slat blends in with the rest of the grill.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

First picture is one more of the repaired section from the back.

The other three are of the repaired gap in the "frame" of the grill.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Thanks Dwayne. It's slow progress and little things at a time, but any progress is still progress!

Here are some shots of the repaired slat in the grill. It was a triangle notch near the center of a slat close to the center of the grill. I used epoxy to glue in the repair section and JB weld to glue the "frame" of the grill back together where it separated and left a gap. The JB Weld holds up well to the "stretching" of the grill frame when it is installed, and the epoxy should be more than strong enough to hold the repair in place.

I left some excess around the repair of the slat on the sides to ensure the piece doesn't fall off by just a bump of the grill when I wash it.

From a distance it's very hard to tell it's even been repaired! Then again, how many people stare at the grill of your car up close and personally? :P :)

Larry, the grill came out great! BROWNIE AND ME THANK YOU SO MUCH! :D :D

First four pictures show the repaired slat/tooth of the grill.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Dave,

Brownie looks better and better every time you post pictures!  Keep up the good work!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

Worked on repairing the grill some more tonight.

A small crack on the bottom of the passenger side was repaired tonight using JB Weld, should hold up well, will see about it tomorrow night.

The broken fin was "reproduced" using some of the remains from the original grill. A wedge was cut out and then epoxied into place. I will be leaving excess epoxy around the repair to ensure it stays in place. It won't be perfect but it will look a ton better in the end! I will repaint and clear the repaired sections in the next couple of days and post photos.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Thanks Becky, I'll look further into it!

Took a few pictures of Brownie today! First two are of the grill so Larry can see how well Brownie sports it! :) Just need to fix the one broken/chipped slat and it'll look great!

The last photo is of the new plates and the Ford Pinto frame I have on it. I now have a great use for the old frame, and it tells the truth this time! :D
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

blupinto

I think, but I'm not positive, that it monitors both. I know Meanie's light was on when I took possession of her last April... luckily I was only driving in little spurts because I was learning to drive a stick-shift. The eejit who traded her to me for my Rickenbacker 330 ran the wee beast dry of oil!  Ruby's engine light would be on every time I started her for the first couple weeks I had her this April- that was a mystery. It doesn't come on butfor a second now when the ignition is on. Ruby may have set too long, so her oil pump or something might have been slow to function. GAWD I LOVE THIS CAR!!!

Oops! Sorry Dave. I got carried away there... ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dave1987

Got the weld done this morning, nice and quiet again, for the most part. There's a slight leak at the manifold where the pipe joins but that's an easy fix! :)

What exactly does the engine light monitor, the temperature or oil pressure, or both? I had it come on and off a few times during a short trip to the gas station a few minutes ago.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Quote from: dave1987 on May 26, 2010, 01:02:04 AM
Got an appointment with the muffler shop tomorrow morning at 11 AM to get the exhaust pipe welded together where the down pipe and muffler pipe connect. $10.00 and they'll call it good! I'll let ya'll know!

If it does the trick, you certainly can't beat the price!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

Got an appointment with the muffler shop tomorrow morning at 11 AM to get the exhaust pipe welded together where the down pipe and muffler pipe connect. $10.00 and they'll call it good! I'll let ya'll know!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!