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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dave1987

Thank you Jim! Tomorrow I am heading over to my parents to drop the steering column and check voltage at the coil with my multimeter, so I will play with it then.

Today I cleared out some of my storage unit and put a lot of stuff in the back of the wagon. Just things that the car will be needing replaced and what not, things I have that are in better shape, etc. Lots of chrome trim, my other roof rack, the glass seals, replacement headliner, headlights, hardware, etc. Need to find some batteries for my digital camera now so I can get some better pictures of the car tomorrow!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

71pintoracer

That is a resistor wire but I would check the ignition switch first, (earlier post said it wasn't working properly)
You should be getting about 9 volts to the + side of the coil in the run position and 12 in the crank position. You can also run a jumper from the battery to get it running.
As far as the back-up lights, put something behind the car so you can see if the lights come on, then move the shifter back and forth. sometimes the neutral switch will get out of adjustment and they won't light in R.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

dave1987

Looking for 73 wiring diagrams. My Chilton's book doesn't have any in it. Need to trace the wiring from the ignition switch to the coil. Is there a ballast resistor inline? If so, is it a component resistor or is it a resistive (is that even a word?? lol) wire?

I looked up ballast on O'Reilly's website for the 73 Pinto with a 2.0 motor, and all I could find was a wire (Part # RU13)

http://www.schucks.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=BOR&MfrPartNumber=RU13

Is that what I'm looking for??
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I'm thinking it is the bulbs, or the car must be running for the backup lights to work. I can't find anything relating to a back up lamp switch or reverse switch at any parts stores. :( My 78, which is manual, has a backup lamp switch/neutral safety switch, which would be the $30 one you purchased, Kim. I tried to find one of those switches cheaper, but $30 was the cheapest in town, and I needed it!

The wagon is automatic. When I shift it into reverse, the lights don't come on. I will have to pop the light assemblies and check the bulbs.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintogirl

Wow, it is looking really good! THe carpet doesn't look bad at all! None of mine were so lucky!!

Now as far as that tranny switch for the back up lights! Watch out that puppy is around 30 some odd bucks!!! :hypno:  I didn't even think it would be that much so I told the part guy to order me too! What a shock when they came in!! I learned my lesson, I will always ask how much from now on! LOL Although I need them anyway! The thing that sucked on one car though, is that even after we put the new switch in, the lights still didn't turn on! We need to check the bulbs! I sure hope when we get to installing the other one on the Ghost, I will have better luck. 30 bucks is alot to spend to have them now work in the end!!  Your prices may be better though who knows!! If they are let me know! LOL I will have you buy my next one! LOL

Anyway the wagon is looking great!! Keep up the great work and pics!!!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

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phils toys

2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

dave1987

I put the battery back in to test a few electrical things on the car. The one headlight that is on the car works fine, at least on high beam mode. It might just be the bulb though, I will replace them with the spares I have in storage to find out later though. The tail lights work, however the backup lights do not, might just be the tranny switch though. Only the driver's side marker lights work, the passenger side doesn't. The turn signals work, but need it needs a new relay and switch assembly, as it doesn't click when switched into position anymore. Front turn signal lights work too!

Needs a new switch for the lights though, have to jiggle the knob a bit to get both the interior and exterior lights to stay on at the same time.

About 40% of the interior lighting works. Half the gauge lights work, 80% of the climate control lights work, and the dome light works.

The blow works, sounds nice and strong, and not noisy!

The wiper motor is nice and quiet, no strange rattles or anything, but only the driver's side wiper arm moves. Need to check the linkage for the passenger side.


I pushed the fold on the rear bumper down with a 2x4 and a hammer. It's straighter than before! I also straightened out the driver's side bumper guard on the front bumper. The mounting tabs were bent on both the car and the guard.

Put the rest of the hub caps on the wheels.

Sprayed all the latches, locks and hinges with WD-40.

Removed all of the wasp nests in the doors and engine compartment.

I also pulled out the remains of some vines that were growing into or out of the tailgate. I found that rather odd.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Pushed the wagon onto the cement driveway just in front of where it sits so I could vacuum it out and check the lighting. Here's some pictures from today!

I pulled the carpet back after vacuuming and checked out the spare tire well. Under the carpet is VERY clean!! No evidence of rust, which is a very good thing! :D All I could find was where the mat under the spare tire had stuck to the spare tire well and pulled up the paint (First Picture).

After inspection and vacuuming it all out, I put it back together, in order (second picture).

Pictures 2 and 3 show the cargo area after I vacuumed it all out. There are some tears in the carpet, but the rest of it is strong.

It seems like the carpet as shrunk. I can't button it down on the sides because it doesn't stretch far enough to do so. It does cover the floor well enough though.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Just the front seats from the bobcat wagon I stripped. I saw no purpose in pulling the rear seat as I never really thought I would own a Wagon! :P I did pull the upholstery off the rear seat though.

Looking for a working ignition switch now.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

75bobcatv6

Quote from: dave1987 on December 12, 2009, 02:38:59 AM
I have spare seats in storage from the bobcat wagon I striped out in the spring.

Dave those seat the front or rear? if it s the rear wagon seats they wont fit. i have some Blue ones for the cost of shipping in good condition if you want them. rear seats from a 73 wagon that did not fit in my car

dave1987

Did a bit of tinkering with the wagon today. Replaced the starter solenoid and got her to crank. It needs a new ignition switch, the one in there doesn't stick in positions and the motor will continue cranking, even when in the "run" position. Might just need to be pulled and cleaned up though.

Even though she's turning over, I can't get it to start due to lack of spark. I replaced the coil (original ford unit still in the car) but it still won't do anything! Need to trace the wires and find out what it is. I'm wondering if it's the module with the large heatsink on it that mounts to the fender wall or the coil resistor wire. Yet again, more testing will tell me more.

Found out today that the upper alternator bracket doesn't have any bolts in it! Instead it is jimmy rigged with trampoline springs and a chisel to put tension on it! Anyone got a set of upper alternator bracket bolts for a 2.0???


Was able to get the air cleaner top off (one of the studs spins with the wing nut). Thank god it has a holley 5200! It's the carb I know and have extra parts for! :D

Mounted the hood latch back onto the hood, missing one of the bolts though. Yet another piece of hardware I could use from a gracious member here!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Thanks for the offer Larry! I appreciate it more than you know! I have all the hub caps in the car, Darrel, the guy who sold it to me, just had time to put one on to make sure they fit the rims he put on the car. The ones I have are in immaculate shape, no dents, just need polished! I have spare seats in storage from the bobcat wagon I striped out in the spring. I haven't had time to yet, but I will take a look at the left bumper guard and see if I can bend it back into shape. If I don't win the grill I am bidding for on ebay, I will let you know!

smallfrye, I plan to do something fun with this motor, maybe a dual carb setup. We shall see! :D

Thanks blu! I'm excited about having a wagon (still can't believe it!), and even more for my daughter!!!

Kim, it needs a bit more than just that fender, the front valance is bent on the passenger side, but can be smoothed out to look right again. I knew you would love the name for it. You car names were a great influence on it! :)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintogirl

Wow Dave, she looks beautiful! Really doesn't look like there is to much damage. Nothing a fender and bezel and grille wont fix, and I see you already have some people that have those thing for you!!!! I am excited for you as I know what it is like to get a new Pinto!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Keep us posted on her progress!!!

Oh and I love her name!!! Perfect!! ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

Dave, congratulations on both your deliveries... the impending one of your daughter (I was wondering when you'll hit Daddyville!) and your wagon. While I really can't vouch for your soon-to-arrive daughter I can say the wagon you have is a beauty! Yes, she needs some odds and ends but she does look as if she otherwise aged well. I'm happy for the riches you are coming into!  :)
One can never have too many Pintos!

smallfryefarm

Hey Dave Sweet. im seein some cruisen panels, tubs, HUGE set of meats, nice little stroked 351, maybe a blower peaking thru the hood.  ;D ;D oh wait thats my wagon im thinking of, just gotta get a wagon. 
nice ride though
Smallfryefarms Horsepower Ranch

larjohnson

Dave1987:  Nice 1973 wagon.  Looks like you got a real honey there.....  F.Y.I. if you're interested now or later, I restored a 1971 Ford Pinto trunk model this past summer, and came up with a few extra parts.  If you'd like them, I'll be glad to give them to you, for just the price of shipping.

#1.  I have a grille which should fit a 1971-1973 model, complete with turn signal lens.  The good part is it's a usuable grille, but bad part is it's got a small crack or break in one of the teeth.  That's why I replaced it.  I have it stowed in my attic, so I haven't seen it for awhile, but still I think a very usable grille.
#2.  I have several extra hubcaps, I think maybe 5 or 6, again, they're stowed in the attic and I haven't seen them for a while.  They all have a flaw in them, that's why I didn't use them.  I think I bought about 10 or so, just to get 4 really nice ones. Again, they are very usable.
#3.  I have the front seats out of a 1978 or 1979 Ford Pinto.  They are black vinyl with some sort of Indian type print cloth insets.  The seats are in very usable shape, but do need some attention.  The passenger seat is in very good shape, but the cloth insets even though intact, are still faded and could use replacements.  The driver's side is similar; however, there's some wearing in the far left side of the back rest, from folks getting in and out of the car all these years.  Again, the cloth insets should be replaced as they are faded.  They do not come with rails. 
#4.  A front bumper guard I think for a 1972 or 1973.  It's larger than what I really needed for my 1971, but it's in great shape.
In my travels to gain parts for my Pinto, I have found a couple of salvage yards in the area, which have some older Pintos, including wagons.  Thank heavens we have Fred Morgan which can probably help you with anything you need, but if you really need something and cannot find it, let me know...I'll check my yards here around Muncie, Indiana.  These parts I currently have are free to you, with only the cost of shipping.  If you would like me to email pictures to you I can do that with no problem; however, I recently packed for a move, but the sale of my house fell thru, and I may not be able to easily get to some of the items until spring.  Just let me know....thanks.....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Dave,

Nice score!  Not bad at all!!! :surprised:

Carfax doesn't list anything older than 1981 models so there's no point wasting your time trying that.  You'll probably just have to trust the paperwork you have.

Congratulations!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

The little wagon's last registration expired in July of 1989 and even still has the last 70s style license plates on the front and back. The previous registered owner of the wagon passed away, and I have the death certificate and power of attorney papers to prove the car was sold to the previous owner who sold it to me, and then sold to me. I have a "rectified title" for the car from 1985. I have not found any other information other than this so far though.

From what we know, the 90,000ish miles on the odometer are original and it has not rolled over yet. I will do a car fax report to be sure though.

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Here's what I still need to get and fix before I take it on the "maiden voyage"...

Brake pads, shoes, cylinders, and calipers
Master Brake Cylinder
Fuel Hose
Carburetor Rebuild Kit
Alternator
Turn brake drums and rotors
Front grill (for turn signal lenses)

I also need to drop and clean the tank, change the oil, change the tranny fluid, change the differential fluid, and check the drive line.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Here is what I have in storage for it from stock piling parts...

Headliner
Popout window hinges
Side window gaskets
Cargo Area Light
E-Brake Cable
Seat Covers
Steering Wheel
Door Panels
Door Cranks
Outside Door handles
Windshield gasket (better than what's on the car)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Here's what I have purchased for it so far, to get it running...

Distributor cap
Distributor rotor
Spark plugs
Plug wires
Points
Condenser
Starter Solenoid
Starter
Battery
V-Belts
Timing Belt
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I'm very surprised with the condition of the door metal, the fenders and quarter panels behind the wheels and the rocker panels. All in great shape!

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Despite the obvious damage, it's actually in amazing shape for being 36 years old.

No serious rust, no door dings, door seals, window seals (minus the windshield gasket) and the lift gate seal are all still in good plyable condition!!! Light lenses are all intact and no scratched or faded glass (windshield is cracked though).

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Got my wagon delivered today. The man who sold it to me put tires on it and loaded it up on his trailer to drop it off at my parent's house. That is where I will be working on the car until I can get it running. Then it will be moved to my apartment parking lot or my storage unit so I can work on it when I'm really bored.

This is going to be a long slow project, not much progress once it's running, since I have a daughter on the way. Once things settle down though, the fun will really begin! :D


Here are some pictures of it about 10 minutes after delivery.


1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!