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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

73 Wagon Project - Brownie

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dave1987

Drove Brownie to and from work today. Tonight the roads were totally covered in snow and extremely slick. I was coming down the road to home and made a left turn and wouldn't stop sliding half way through my turn! I ended up hitting a street sign going about 5 mph. The sign tipped, Brownie drove away without a scratch. It hit with the front bumper.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Those of you who store your Pintos for the winter are smart! I found out how much of a bummer it is to scrape the frost off of all six windows before driving! lol

Looks like it's time to swap out the rear glass for the defrost one I have in storage!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Thank you Luke!

So I feel very stupid right now. Yesterday I was going to drive Brownie to work. I couldn't because she wouldn't start, first thing I thought was it was a dead battery. I didn't have time to jump it so I took the 78.

I just got back inside from getting her going again. I tried jump starting, no luck, not even a click from the starter. I checked the ignition switch wiring, the starter solenoid wiring, and even looked for some type of fuse on the block for the ignition, NOTHING!

Just before I put everything away to head inside and say bye to the family, I looked inside the car. Sure enough! Somehow I bumped the shift lever to the Drive position and never thought to check! lol Shifted to drive and she started right up!

DOH!  :accident:
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Fair 73

 I do like your cassette deck it looks and fits very nice.
Luke

dga57

Yeah, actually I do.  They had done other work for me before, and have since.  They've told me the coffee pot is always on so feel free to stop in - so I visit them a couple of times a year.  The last job they did for me was to swap out the rear bumper on my Mark V.  Due to the weight of the thing it's a three-man job, and I decided I'd rather pay them to do it.  The original one had rusted through and I found a rust-free Arizona replacement on eBay.  They do great work and have always treated me well price-wise.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

I remember you talking about that, either in another thread or in the shout box awhile ago! That's so cool! So do you still stay in contact with them?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Speaking of eight-track tapes, one of the neatest thing I ever had happen to me was when I had my Collector's Series Continental professionally repainted about five years ago.  The body shop had the car for seven weeks, working on it between other jobs (collision repair is their "bread & butter", not restorations) and nearly everyone in the shop had a hand in it at some point.  When I picked up the finished product, I discovered a box full of eight-track tapes that the guys had collected sitting on the back seat.  What a thoughtful gift!  Some of the guys told me they had really gotten attached to that car because it was there so long and turned out so beautifully. 

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

I may be to young to remember 8-tracks, but I do know the technology. I used to have a player and three or four ta9es back when I collected old technology to tinker with. A thrift store here always has a stack of 8-track tapes available.

I shoved some of that butyl rubber cord into the gaps around the windshield. Hopefully this will help to reduce the amount of water draining inside the car until spring time when I can put the replacement windshield in.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Nothing like going retro!  I actually have factory cassette players in two of my vehicles... the Lincoln Mark VIII and the Dodge Durango.  My two '79 Lincolns have 8-tracks players (you're probably too young to remember those).  My Pinto has never even had a radio!!!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

Thanks Dwayne!

Looks like it's time for me to pick up a cassette player/recorder from the thrift store next time I am there so I can put some of my Niel Diamond on tape to drive around to. It's what I grew up to while on road trips with the family. Richard Marx, now that's what I grew up to while riding around in my 78 Pinto with my dad! :D
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

A simple but resourceful idea!  Glad you worked it out!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

And the last but not least of the updates, the seat belt extension I had made! :)

I couldn't get the rear seat belts to go around my daughter's car seat, so I had to have an extension made. Odd that the 78 belts fit but the 73's belts don't.

I was thinking of using a set of belt buckles from the spare 78 belts I have in storage, but they don't use the same size latches as the 73 does. Also odd. The 73 station wagon at the junk yard has the same size buckles as my 78, but MY 73 station wagon (Brownie) uses small buckles! Is this a difference between early and late production 73 model Pintos??

I ended up pulling the seat belt latch from a 72 Thunderbird. I found the back seat easiest to get the belts from. For the blade buckle, I actually took the entire center belt with the blade buckle on it, that way the extension is adjustable!

Here's a couple pictures of it. I'm quite proud of my idea for it being adjustable! :D Now I can buckle cargo in as well! ;) :P

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Here is the stereo after installation. This is the original box the radio came in from sears. My dad purchased this deck back in 1987 with the intentions of installing it in my blue '78, but never got around to it. It finally is being used, and in a Pinto no less! :D It actually looks pretty darn nice! :D

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Of coarse, Becky, she is mine and I can do what I please.

However I would like to implement something from the forums and the members to this car as without the PCCA I wouldn't be as into Pintos as I am, nor would I know anything about cars to begin with. I didn't even know what an oil filter looked like prior to working on my Pinto! :P

EDIT: Last seven pictures added above
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

blupinto

You gotta do what you gotta do. The one thing I won't do is moiunt speakers on the doors. I prefer them hidden.

It irritates me that itunes messed up a previous application where I could make my own playlists. I had a playlist for the mountains, one for Pinto-era music ('70s greats), and rainy day music. All gone. Whatever latest version of itunes I installed took my playlists away, so now I'm afraid to install any more "latest versions" of the damn thing. What else will it take away!?

Sorry about the rant. I was thinking about playing my ipod when I hit the San Diego area mountains in a couple days but my Mountains plasylist is gone. I'm still taking my Ruby RedHot though. I'll just have to play the music I desire in my head... :-\

Dave, remember you don't need mine, or anyone's approval for what you do with Brownie- she's yours. I myself prefer stock but it's not my place to dictate to anyone what they can or should do with their cars, but I appreciate your approving of my approval. :hypno:
One can never have too many Pintos!

dave1987

I'm thrilled you approve! :D I do listen to 70's and early 80's music on it though, very suitable! :D

That's to bad the speaker on wildfire blew out! The same thing happened on Brownie, I actually went through three different original Pinto speakers before I gave up and jimmy rigged a 6 1/2" speaker in place! lol. It isn't perfect but it works great! :)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

blupinto

Dave, with radios I'm not too upset (Brownie IS your car! lol) and I don't blame you a bit doing that. AM here is crappy at best. There are TWO music stations in English, and one is so-called jazz. I swear they have 15 versions of The Lady Is A Tramp and Straighten Up And Fly Right. lol. The other one I think is rock... everything else is either talk shows or Spanish-language music (gag). Oh, to be able to play my ipod without a bunch of hardware... :-\

But yeah... in my own cars I plan on them staying stock. Wildfire might be the exception... her radio bezel was already cut to accomodate an after-market stereo. Sadly that stereo blew out her one speaker, so it's very likely I'll just get her a new stereo system. That is, when the money comes rolling in... ::)
One can never have too many Pintos!

dave1987

Well, I can't upload anymore pictures, it appears my upload folder is full. I guess I've hit my picture cap! lol I wonder if scott can help me out here.

You might be a bit upset with me though, Becky. I swapped out the original AM radio for an 80s model AM/FM/Cassette deck that my dad bought new back in 87. He intended to use it in my blue 78, but never got around to installing it. So now Brownie is sporting a "brand new" fancy stereo system! :D The AM radio just wasn't workings as well as it did 37 years ago, I couldn't pickup any stations without having to readjust the dial every five seconds to get the channel back!

Don't get to upset, the radio face plate was NOT butchered! It looks like a very professional install and works great. I think you might actually like the look. It matches the black and brown interior she has right now! :)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

blupinto

Dave, the more I look the prettier Brownie gets (to me).  I am tickled you're keeping her.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dave1987

Fortunately I had a spare mount in my stash of parts. It isn't perfect and it's used, but it will hold up well for awhile longer!

1) Here is what the mount SHOULD look like!

2) And another view

3) A comparison between the two mounts. Now you can really see how much the original mount swelled up!

The good news is, Brownie runs nice and quiet now, no shudder, no vibration or shaking, and the shift lever doesn't wobble back and forth while giving the car gas anymore! :D
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Now that we are up to date, I can post what I did today! :D
 
  So about a week ago my wife and I were driving around running errands   and we noticed the car was rattling/knocking/shuddering badly. This   happened in every gear, park through 1, even neutral. It seemed to be   consistent in every gear, just louder in gears forward and reverse   gears.
 
  So today I finally got the chance to take the car to my parents and take   a look underneath to see what it was. The first thing I noticed was the   transmission mount. The transmission wasn't even suspended! It was   literally SITTING on the transmission cross member, due to the rubber   mount breaking in half!  :hypno: This   probably happened because of how fluid soaked the rubber was from the   originally transmission spraying/leaking fluid all over it for years.   I'm just glad it didn't do any more damage than it did. The rubber mount   sure swelled up though!
 
  1) What is left of the original mount (split in two)
 
  2) Rubber side which mounts to the cross member
 
  3) Metal side which mounts to the transmission
 
  4) How small the metal side is compared to the rubber (they should be the same size!)
 
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Backup lamp and wire harness work.

1 & 2) After a lot of troubleshooting, pulling wire harnesses, testing wires, checking sockets, adapting the backup lamp sockets to standard ones, I got the backup lamps working! And WOW are they bright! :D

3) Here's one of the wires I replaced in the main dash harness. It ran from fuse block to the ignition switch, I'm guessing it burnt out/melted when I first tried to start Brownie, and the starter solenoid was connected wrong/shot. And to think this couldn't have put the car up in flames in a matter of seconds!  :hypno:
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Chad, it really was, but I find it worth it. I wouldn't have purchased Brownie if I didn't think I could fix any of it myself. She was pretty far gone when I bought here but she is making a slow recovery back to grace. I love doing things like the Neutral Safety Switch, it's enlightening seeing how it works and how simple it really is. Now whenever I shift gears, I think of the switch moving around and the contacts doing their thing! :) :P


After Brownie's first alignment in over a decade, I had Sarah (my wife) drive her home, it was late but we got her home and Sarah said she drives great! :D While driving back home I snapped a couple pictures of her driving Brownie ahead of me, I've never followed another Pinto before! :)

I also snapped a shot of her parked at work one day! :)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Last of the Neutral Safety Switch:

1) Originally there was a gasket between the contact board and the metal body of the switch. Since I couldn't salvage it, I cut one out of some DIY gasket material. It took a lot of trimming and time, but it fits snug and gets the job done!

2) The body of the switch with the gasket in place

3 & 4) The switch reassembled. I used some stainless steel hex screws and nuts to hold it together. I ended up drilling through the housing where the rivets originally were, but everything still fits perfectly on the transmission and the switch works like new!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

75bobcatv6


dave1987

More of the neutral start switch:

1) Close up of the contact board side of the switch.

2) Close up of the switch cam.

3) Close up of the brass rollers and the springs they sit on top of.

4) The switch cam with the springs installed and the brass rollers in their place.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

While I waited for the replacement bell housing to arrive, I decided to take a look at the neutral safety switch and determine whether or not it was the reason the backup lamps didn't work. As I figured out later, it was actually the lamp sockets, however I believe the switch was part of the original problem.

1) To begin dis-assembly of the switch, I had to drill the securing "posts" or "rivets". I didn't go completely through as I never planned to reassemble it with nuts and bolts.

2) Upon opening the switch I found this (see picture 2). The barrel type brass piece rolls through the switch making contact on two copper contacts on the opposite side of the switch. Somehow the brass barrel contact rolled out of it's "seat" on the right side of the plastic fan shaped part (the switch cam) inside the switch body.

3) This is the side of the switch which has all of the copper contacts which the wires of the switch are connected to. The brass rollers in the switch cam make contact with these copper contacts. Which contacts it bridges depends on which position the cam is in (controlled by the shift cam on the transmission). One brass roller is for the starting circuit, the other is for the backup lamps.

4) Shown here (picture 4) is all of the internal parts and the body of the switch dis-assembled and cleaned, ready for lubricant on the non-electrical parts and reassembly!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

EDIT: Not sure why it posted the first picture twice. Sorry.

Finally, a series of updates of Brownie! :D They may not be in sequence, I have had a crazy work schedule and just got over from being sick last week, so I haven't had the chance or time to post anything new. Here we go!

As discussed, Brownie has a new transmission! :D These first few pictures are from the time of the transmission transplant, the pictures of the neutral safety switch are of when I rebuilt it during Brownie's down time.

1) Brownie sat like this for around 3 weeks, propped up on jack stands, while waiting for the replacement bell housing. Poor girl.... :(

2) The back of Brownie was stuffed full of Pinto parts that I didn't have a chance to unload at storage before the transmission swap began.

3) The replacement transmission sat beneath the car without the bell on it for about two weeks, this was after I got the input shaft off the torque converter, thankfully everything was still okay after the trans was installed improperly!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

The starter works great, doesn't stick or anything. The melted wire most likely happened when I first got the car and put a battery in it to see if it would crank. The starter relay was connected backwards with the ignition wire on the wrong post.

Wire replaced, and I got the backup lamps working as well, had the wrong bulbs in. I had to change the sockets to use 1156 bulbs though, but it's now legal for me to drive backwards! :D

Now I have another electrical issue! lol

I found the ball bearing for the ignition switch on the floor while I was cleaning up the mess I made, that would explain why the switch doesn't stay in place or "notch" into each position! Luckily, I pulled the ignition switch from the 73 wagon at the junk yard yesterday while I was getting the driver's side tail light assembly and wiring harness.

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

tony v

i would try rippin the starter apart and cleaning the (gummie) stuff out of it, just mark the outside of the starter with a scribe so you clock it right and see whats goin on inside  they sell rebuild kits for like 25 dollars. good luck and nice wagon!!! :)
Rubber side down!!