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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

73 Wagon Project - Brownie

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dga57

Quote from: dave1987 on May 25, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
I honestly don't think she will sell around these parts, so I'm treating here like she'll be mine forever. :) I'm half hoping the car doesn't sell at all. If it does, well, we'll see....


Thanks robert! I'm going down to the exhaust shop tomorrow to have them weld teh pipe together but I'll use the baked bean can idea to hold the pipes together until I get there!

Well then, I'll send good Ju-Ju that it all works out however you WANT it to!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

I honestly don't think she will sell around these parts, so I'm treating here like she'll be mine forever. :) I'm half hoping the car doesn't sell at all. If it does, well, we'll see....


Thanks robert! I'm going down to the exhaust shop tomorrow to have them weld teh pipe together but I'll use the baked bean can idea to hold the pipes together until I get there!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Dave,

Am I correct in assuming you've decided to keep Brownie after all?

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rctinker

Baked bean can and a couple hose clamps  :o, lol did that to my CW when I was 16 and it lasted for years lol  :o
1977 Crusin Wagon when I was 16

dave1987

Took the wagon to the store down the road and the exhaust pipe separated where it joins under the passenger seat, damn is the car loud running a straight pipe! lol

Time to call the muffler shop!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Brownie is now sporting new Idaho plates with a fresh registration! 8)

Fixed the license plate light, the wire pulled out of the socket on the previous owner and was wrapped with electrical tape. I cleaned the glass lens and soldered the wire back to the electrical contact inside the light socket. I replaced the bulb with a new one as well, works great! :D

Put some temporary dark blue seat covers on the driver and passenger seats, looks better now, and more comfortable to sit in, also installed the repainted better dash pad, and I currently have the center vents removed so I can replace the dash speaker with a working one so the radio will be functional again.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

actually lives in nampa here in idaho.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

TIGGER

Quote from: dave1987 on May 22, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
No bites on the wagon yet, I'm half hoping it doesn't sell!

A gal called me off of Craigslist asking about the wagon, was thinking of buying it if it was her old wagon. Turns out she used to own a yellow cruising wagon back in the day. I directed to FordPinto.com to have a look around as cruising wagons pop up from time to time here.

Was the lady from Bend, Oregon? 
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dave1987

No bites on the wagon yet, I'm half hoping it doesn't sell!

A gal called me off of Craigslist asking about the wagon, was thinking of buying it if it was her old wagon. Turns out she used to own a yellow cruising wagon back in the day. I directed to FordPinto.com to have a look around as cruising wagons pop up from time to time here.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Quote from: dave1987 on May 19, 2010, 01:53:11 AM
Yes but parts in the future might not be as readily available as they are now (as if they really are today! lol), and it's going to cost me a lot more later to do this again if Pintos (and I'm sure they will) become more popular and more recognized as classics! :(


As that happens, more and more parts will be reproduced.  That's why restoring a Ford Model A today isn't nearly the challenge it was 40 years ago!  You're right, it will cost more... but you'll probably find yourself with a lot more disposable income also.   As Larry noted, at least you're not Pintoless!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Dave:  I hate to hear about you selling Brownie, but you still have the 1978!!!!  That's a great car!!!!  Sometimes life just changes, and we have to make sacrifices.  I too have considered selling my 1972, which is the one I've had two years.  Not for financial reasons, but simply because I really don't need it, since I have the 1971 I bought from Reed.  I'm not going to rush into any decision yet, but who knows, in a year or so...the 72 could go.  If so, I'm gonna make sure it goes to a good home.  If not..then it'll be my kids someday...lol   Good Luck!!!! just look at it this way, a Pinto door isn't closing, a new one will open in the future.  Have a great day...Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dave1987

Yes but parts in the future might not be as readily available as they are now (as if they really are today! lol), and it's going to cost me a lot more later to do this again if Pintos (and I'm sure they will) become more popular and more recognized as classics! :(
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Dave,

I know it doesn't help much right now, but try to look at it this way... you are young and there will surely be many opportunities in the future to replace the Pinto you must sacrifice now. 

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

Thank you dwayne, I appreciate your understanding of this situation. I have posted a classifieds ad stating all the work done to the car and what still needs to be done to it.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Quote from: dave1987 on May 19, 2010, 01:04:04 AM
I regret to inform you all that Brownie's progress has come to an end.

Finances are out of control and I need to get things settled, Brownie is going to have to go to a better home, hopefully she won't be cut up for a race car.

I am selling brownie.  :'( :'( :'( :'(


So sorry to hear that, Dave.  Maybe you'll be fortunate enough, with all the work you've done on her, to realize enough cash to help you settle things once and for all.  Good luck!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dave1987

I regret to inform you all that Brownie's progress has come to an end.

Finances are out of control and I need to get things settled, Brownie is going to have to go to a better home, hopefully she won't be cut up for a race car.

I am selling brownie.  :'( :'( :'( :'(
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

larjohnson

Dave:  The grille looks fantastic!!!!!!  I know what you mean about the grille being black; however, for some reason when I was younger I painted the grille on my 1971 Pinto black. Guess I thought it looked cooler back then.  When I restored my 1971 I got from Reed last year, I did the same thing to it's grille.  The grille in my 1971 does look great black, but I don't think it would look as good on your brown wagon.  Anyway, your grille looks good painted silver, hope it's working well for you.  Have a great day...Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dave1987

Here are some more shots of the dash's split repair. I have decided to just fill the crack, paint over it and leave it be until I can get a nice cap for it. I figure the cap is the better way to go, so I don't have to repair splits again through out the years of it's life. It is flat and true now, though.

The last two are of the interior panels. They are sun faded, nearly white on the wheel well tops, but still in one piece and straight. Hopefully by the end of Monday I will have them finished! :D

On another note, I replaced the washer bottle with one I pulled from a Bobcat wagon last year. The pump in the original one no longer worked, but the replacement one does! New bottle, with a cap in one piece, and a pump that works, what more could one ask for when it comes to cleaning the windshield on the road? :) :P
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I have learned that proper primer and prep of plastic parts is the most important. I used to do computer case modding, lots of plastic parts painted, and always had great long lasting results with these procedures.

I am using a plastic "adhesion" promoter type primer. A few coats of that and then the paint. I've used it on the 78 for the A/C shield and the radio bezel without any ill effects. The radio bezel was painted a little over two years ago and still holding up well, color wise and structurally.

Here are some photos I found on my phone that I forgot to post....

Larry, here is your grill painted silver! :D I have yet to repair the broken tooth, but I just couldn't stand the black grill on the brown car, it just seemed like there was no grill at all when it was black!

The last two are some shots of the dash. I cleaned it real well, then filled the split with the foaming insulation stuff. Does it expand or WHAT?!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

popbumper

Definitely on the right track with everything. SMS sent me PERFECT samples of my interior materials. SEM is great for color coating. I will warn you however that using spray can enamel on your plastic panels is NOT a good idea. Petroleum based products love to eat plastic.

If you prove me wrong, awesome, but your BEST choice for covering the interior panels IS the SEM color coat. I did my rear panels and they look awesome, without any effect whatsoever on the plastic.

Spray can paints, unless specifically formulated for plastic, are a bad idea.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

dave1987

Glad to hear SMS can help you! :) They also carry original seat, door panel, and headliner material for my 78 and the 73!

I went to The Home Depot today and picked up some Rust-Oleum "Professional - High Performance Enamel" in flat brown (239112) to repaint the interior plastic panels. It's a fast drying, high coverage industrial spray paint. I think with some good cleaning and coat of primer to the panels it should hold up pretty well! I will be doing a coat of clear on it after application as well just to protect it a bit, but I think it is going to come out pretty darn well!

I also bought a can of the "Great Stuff" foaming insulation to repair the dash I have in storage. It just has one crack in it about a quarter in wide to the right of the gauge cluster, other than that it's perfect! I'm probably going to pick up a few cans of the SEM "dye" paint from the auto body shop to paint the dash, door panels and headliner though.

I will be dropping the black headliner that is in the car right now to install the blue one I pulled from the wagon in Caldwell, since it doesn't have any patches in it, and I removed it with the windshield out instead of cutting it at the gasket. I will be replacing the headliner when I do the windshield and gasket to ensure the perfect fit and installation.

After this it's just interior carpet and some nice seat covers and the interior will be quire comfortable and stylish! :) :P

Now the weather just needs to hurry up and become nice for a decent amount of time so I can finish buffing and polishing the paint and chrome. Hopefully it will be ready for Roanne's in Emmett on July 18th!


Making progress, this project is on a roll!  :fastcar:
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

larjohnson

Dave:  Too bad they don't carry the cargo area carpet.  I just ordered some fabric from them for the 1977 Pinto Squire Wagon my parents purchased last month.  I received it this week, it's a perfect match.  What a great find locating them.  I will probably need other fabric in the future, so I have a great source now.  See ya...have a great day!!!! Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dave1987

I've got carpet samples from SMS Auto Fabrics that match, I was planning to get the passenger area carpet from them like I did with the 78, but they don't carry cargo area carpet.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

larjohnson

Dave:  My upholstery shop is going to replace the carpet in my 1971 next month.  I wasn't happy with the carpet I bought and installed.  They said they can match the carpet nicely, and form fit it to fit my Pinto.  Maybe your local upholstery shop could match your carpet, and custom fit it for your cargo area.  Good Luck!!!!!! Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dave1987

Took it out to Caldwell to pick up the rest of the Wagon parts I bought a couple weeks ago and the bumpers for my 78. Ripped the cargo area carpet from the top of the seat while loading stuff in. :(

Now to find some nice cargo area carpet....
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

larjohnson

Looks like Brownie is moving right along.....I cannot wait to see some more pictures....

You have found a true Ford Treasure!!!!!

Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dave1987

Finally got the pictures of the wiper linkage fix off my digital camera.

The first two pictures show where I had to attach the linkage from the motor to the wiper posts. The one I pulled from a car on craigslist was missing this section, so I just used the original section and some brass screws with loctite on them to hold the pivot to the arm. So far so good!

The last two pictures show why the old linkage was no good. Where the passenger side wiper post is secured to the linkage, the metal had split. I don't know HOW this much damage could have occured, perhaps frozen wipers during the winter time and the PO never deiced the windshield before starting the wipers

Any how, it looks like the wiper posts could be welded back to the linkage. I'm highly suspecting this issue with my 78's noisy wiper system, just not as severe. I will have to drop the linkage on it some time to check it out and weld them back on if it's the case.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Yesterday I cleaned and polished the interior panels in the cargo and rear seating area. Hopefully that will get rid of some of the dust that flies around when the windows are down, and cuts down on some of the smell.

Pulled out the cargo area carpet and removed the spare tire to wipe out any dirt/mud underneath and rid of any possibly smell that might be lurking under them.


Odd part here...The metal trim at the back of the cargo area that hides the wire harness for the taillights, it runs across the bottom of the rear door seal.....I pulled that up and there were a lot of wood chippings, just like coarse saw dust, under it from left to right. I don't see how it could have gotten in there since the metal trim doesn't allow much entrance to as much of it was in there. I'm wondering if there was a pest infestation in this car at some point in time.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

All interior lighting works now! YAY! :D

Replaced the entire dash wiring harness, which includes the seat weight sensors, door light switch and dome like wiring as well. I had a spare 73 dash and I parted it out a few nights ago. The harness came in handy! :)

Turn signal indicators, cluster lighting, seat belt light, dome like, wiper switch illumination, everything works great again!

The hazard lights work again now to, so no more troubleshooting that part.

Next up on the electrical is the backup lamps, which I think is wiring, but COULD be the neutral safety switch to, not entirely sure though, we will see.

I pulled the climate control assembly to repair via Fred's way of fixing it. Need to get a 1 1/2" diameter 3/8" deep freeze plug so I can complete it, then everything inside will be in working order minus the brake light indicator, but I have a replacement switch for that which i will be changing out soon to.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

rctinker

Keep at it Dave, it will all work out.
1977 Crusin Wagon when I was 16