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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Restoring my 78 Sedan

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dave1987

I won't post pictures of the entire car with the new carpet quite yet, primarily because I don't want to show the whole interior until I post the pictures of the car with the new dash-cap installed.

In the mean time, feast your eyes upon new carpet on the driver's side floor pan, around the shifter and the rear passenger area. The two worst places on my old carpet and the one spot that won't spoil it all. :)

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Once that was all pulled out and tossed aside, the new carpet was installed. I let it sit for about 4 days before I installed it so the folds and wrinkles would settle out and the carpet could take it's original molded shape. The 78 Sedans used a two piece carpet set. The largest section for the passenger area and the second piece for the drive-shaft tunnel between the two rear set cushions. Why they didn't make it one piece I will never know...
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

One more of the old carpet:

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

First off some shots of the original carpet. It was pretty shot. slightly sun bleached, torn, worn down and just plain tacky. I didn't vacuum it before removing it, I figured what the heck since it was going into the trash anyway.

Things removed before the carpet:

Seats
Seatbelt restraints
E-brake cover
Lower center console and bracket
Rear seat cushions
Kick panels
Door jam screws for inner quarter panels
Door jam chrome trim

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I've done a lot of work on the car the past week. Here's the update!

New dash-cap from 1aauto.com - $85.90
New carpet from stock-interiors.com - $129.15
New stereo system by Pioneer from Walmart - $284.36
New brake rotors, bearings and seals from fastundercar.com (purchased locally & highly recomended) - $115.13
New "trunk Seal" from Walmart (You shall see) - $5.95

Onto the progress pictures!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

bobscat

I have a sway bar out of a Mustang II on my 79 Bobcat, and it fit just like the original.  The only reason I changed mine, was the one I used was from a V-8 mustang and cleared my oil pan when I put in the 302.  However, this may be just as hard to find as one for a Pinto.  If I am thinking correctly, I just saw them listed for sale new on the O'Reilly's website.  Or check e-bay.

dave1987

Is there another ford vehicle I can pull a sway bar off of that will bolt on to the 77 sedan (even with minor modification)?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

77turbopinto

Quote from: dave1987 on February 01, 2008, 09:31:53 PM
...My car does not have a sway bar! Is this normal on a 78 Sedan? If no, can I pull one off another different model car and put one on?....

Yes, that's common. There should be the tabs on the lower control arms for the end links and the holes in the "frame" for the perches so installing one is very easy.

There are at least 2 different size 'Pinto' bars; one about .885" and one about .915".


Bill
Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.

dave1987

Actually the original paint job was the "canary yellow" that so many Pinto's were. My older brother actually owned the car when he was in auto body class and repainted it as his finals project. It's called "Canyon Blue", I believe he ordered from a paint shop down the road.

Going through some pictures of pintos tonight, I just realized. My car does not have a sway bar! Is this normal on a 78 Sedan? If no, can I pull one off another different model car and put one on?



For the gauge cluster chrome trim, is it plated on or what? I'd really like to restore this part of the dash but I have no idea how to attempt it.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Pintopower

I love the color of that car. Is it 3J? Is it original paint? Looks sharp!
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: dave1987 on February 01, 2008, 03:21:45 AM
Today I received the dash cap in the mail. It fits great. I just need to pull up the link to one of the member's (cookieboy I believe) videos of installing it.

yep.. it was me...

http://www.fordpinto.com/video/view_video.php?viewkey=3d06de0ca9a15b615367&page=2&viewtype=&category=mr
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

dave1987

Cool. I'll keep checking up with my apartment office to see when it comes in next week then.

I put the new stereo system and the shocks two days ago.

The stereo system is kickin, no distortion anymore!

The new shocks are amazing! The front shocks were in dear need of replacement. After removing them (taking 45 minutes on each side due to rust), I tested the front pair. To put it simple, after compressing them they did not retract. I'm wondering if my springs need replaced too now, considering I might as well not have even had shocks in the car the time I was driving it, since they didn't do anything. What's everybody's input on that?

The rear shocks wern't bad at all. They compressed and retacted pretty normally, just slightly squishy and retracted a little bit slower, but I kept them since they seems fairly new.

Today I received the dash cap in the mail. It fits great. I just need to pull up the link to one of the member's (cookieboy I believe) videos of installing it.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: dave1987 on January 28, 2008, 01:58:53 AM
How long does it normally take to get an order from stockinteriors.com?

as I recall they make to order but it was quick... a week?? 10 days??
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

dave1987

Just finished a tune up on the car and put the steel pump-to-carb fuel line in tonight.

I went to a salvage yard today to see if I could find a Mustang II center console but everything was stripped. Tomorrow I will try one more yard and see if they have anything.

I was going to install new shocks on the car but the front ones haven't come in yet. Autozone said the order was canceled for some reason. They re-ordered them and said if the order goes through this time they will have them in on Tuesday. Which means on Wednesday I should have new suspension!

Carpet and dash cap have been ordered, and I'm just waiting for packages in the mail. How long does it normally take to get an order from stockinteriors.com?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Thanks guys!

As you can see in the video, the passenger side floor pan had some minor rust issues, but the driver's side floor pan is horrible and I can see right through one of the 1/4" holes. I have an old raggy bath towel under the carpet right now to keep it from getting to much worse. I also hit it with the wire "brush" on the pneumatic die grinder and some "rust converter", covered by some primer.

The body is in rough shape as far as paint goes. There's a 1" diameter spot on the right fender that the paint chipped out of, which I am currently figuring out the best way to fix that. I have filled it with bondo but I still need to fill it one more time, sand it down and paint & clear coat it. Hopefully that will be done before the summer comes. So aside from the paint, not to much bad with it aside from some under paint rust in the bottom of the passenger's side quarter panel.

The car looks a lot better now than it did last summer as I have done some paint touch up all around (the scratch above the gas cap and on the middle of the trunk lid). I have painted the trunk interior black and am currently working on the inside of the hood too.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

High_Horse

Dave1987,
    Very, Very Nice car!!!!!

                                                                                 High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Trigger01

Your car looks great and makes my very jealous. My Pinto has  along way to go before it will look that good! The interior work is a good way down the road for me, rust repair first.
-Mike
MCarrTrigger01@aol.com

SOLD
1978 Pinto Runabout
2.3 liter 4-cylinder
4-speed manual trans.

Daily Driver:
Heavily Modified Lifted '01 Ford Ranger Edge

Pintony

Quote from: 77turbopinto on May 25, 2007, 06:58:51 AM
I agree with Pintony.

Don't pay intrest and or loan fees when you don't NEED to. If you needed to fix the car to drive to work or school, a loan MIGHT be in order. Save money and buy the parts one at a time. If you do that and take your time, you might find better deals on parts and save even more money on the long run.

Just my $.02

Bill

That seems a bit high Bill....... :evil:

Cookieboystoys

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

dave1987

Thanks cookieboy! I can't wait to get this all finished into presentable shape and bring it to the local fair car show and hopefully to a few of the get togethers here.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Cookieboystoys

Hey Dave, looks sweet and sounds like you have the plan well in hand   ;D

(I pulled my post and added to the end so I wouldn't break up your pics... very nice collection)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

dave1987

And the last of last year...It's not every day you get to see a pinto in the dark. :)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Here are some photos from last summer.

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I'll be getting a nice large tax return back this year and the interior restoration will be finished by the summer time!

Leather seat covers, carpet, a new dash cap and new door glass.

The brake rotors are slightly warped but those are getting changed out to, as well as my windshield gasket, the trunk seal and new shocks.

A few modifications will be done as well. I will be putting a new pioneer stereo system in as well with four pioneer speakers. Replacing the two dry rotted 6x9 speakers in the back and adding two 6 1/2" speakers in the door panels.

Last but not least I will be putting a Mustang II center console in the car if I can find one in black. They are a big expensive and hard to find around here but in time I will find one.

Thank you everyone for all the help I've recieved on my project thus far and pictures will be plentiful this year, I promise.

I spent the whole night last night buffing out hard water spots from the paint and fixing my exhaust leak at the down pipe. All that will be left after this year will be a new Stallion paint job, but isn't 199% necessary.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

77turbopinto

I agree with Pintony.

Don't pay intrest and or loan fees when you don't NEED to. If you needed to fix the car to drive to work or school, a loan MIGHT be in order. Save money and buy the parts one at a time. If you do that and take your time, you might find better deals on parts and save even more money on the long run.

Just my $.02

Bill
Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.

Pintony

Hello Dave,
Have you thought about selling something you are not using on ebay to make the money to fix-up your Pinto interior. Most banks will not loan less than 1000.00
From Pintony

dave1987

My 78 Sedan has run in the family since it was purchased for my mom as a graduation present in 79. Since then my oldest brother had it during his teenage years as his first car and took it to autobody shop with him as his project. He gave it a nice peral metalic blue paint job. Shortly after, he wore the engine out and it was time for a rebuild, which he wasn't up to doing. So it sat on the side of my parents house up to about three years ago when it was my turn to have the car. I pulled the engine with my dad and my cousin (who builds race car engines), helpped me get the block bored and the head rebuilt, as well as put some bigger pistons in it. It now has a new paint job, new clutch, new brakes, and now a new engine to!

Now that I have the car is good operational condition as well as decent exterior condition, I'm wanting to fix up the interior a bit. It needs new carpet, front dash pad and a new headliner. The back seat needs some seem work done in the middle and a new steering wheel.

I'm considering taking out a $500 loan to get this car in tip top shape as I REALLY love driving it. I'd rather drive my 1978 no-AC pinto than my friend's 2002 buick sedan in 100 degree weather. I just love this car so much.

$500 should cover the dash cap which I can get for under $100, carpet is about $200-ish, and a headliner is about $100 for a kit. Then I could have someone locally seem up the back seat a bit. If it needs more than a simple seem job, I'll just not have it done and find a replacment and dye it black.

So is pulling out a $500 loan a good or a bad thing for this project? I REALLY want to get this car's interior to a condition that I don't shreek at each time I look at my dash with a 1" split above my gauges.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!