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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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davidpinto

HERES A PIC OF MY HEATER HOSE SET UP
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rob289c

I looked at a few vendors and the H-Pipe is not in stock.  I am far from that point in my project anyway so I will check again in the future.  Thank you for providing the P/N!
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davidpinto

I HAVE HEAT ,NEW HEATER CORE TOO.THE H PIPE BYPASSES THE HEATER CORE WHEN THE HEAT IS OFF.WATER COMES OUT OF WATER PUMP AND RETURNS TO THERMOSTAT HOUSING.TURN HEAT ON AND VALVE OPENS TO CIRCULATE THRU HEATER CORE AND BACK TO THERMOSTAT HOUSING>THE H PIPE PART # IS 84515 FOUR SEASONS LINE.THIS SET UP WORKS WELL.
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rob289c

You must not have heat in your car?  I was planning to reinstall the hater box if there is room.  I won't get to that until some time next year....
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davidpinto

ROB289 :NEVER HAS OVERHEATED EVEN ON THE HOTTEST DAYS.I PUT A 5/8 DIA H PIPE IN FRONT OF HEATER VALVE SO WATER CIRCULATES ALL THE TIME.OLD FORD TRUCKS HAD THEM FROM THE FACTORY.
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one2.34me

Get an old extension or big screwdriver or punch and with a hammer hit the plug right inside the edge. It will drive the plug sideways in the hole and you can pull it out with pliers. You can put a film of sealant on the outer edge of the new plug and use a similar size socket or such to tap in the new plug.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=removing+freeze+plugs&&view=detail&mid=D1411E708B1592EB8697D1411E708B1592EB8697&&FORM=VDRVRV

rob289c

What is the best way to remove them?  Hammer and screwdriver and pry them out?  And for replacement...tap them in with a hammer?  Is there a special installing tool?  Do you put any sealant on the lip before installing?  I've never replaced them...it was always done by the machine shop after hot-tanking.
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one2.34me

Rob, when I had my 2.3 out, I changed the freeze plugs. The one in the back of the head looked good, but when I removed it there was an area on its' backside almost completely corroded through. With your freeze plugs pulled you can reach into the block and remove a lot of gunk and material from the water jacket with your fingers and a magnet.

rob289c

So no overheating or no other negative effects?  It is plumbed into top heater pipe that runs along side the valve cover.  What is/was it's original function?
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davidpinto

I BRAZED UP THE WATER PORT ON MY INTAKE ,BOCKING IT OFF AND GOT RID OF ALL THAT EXTRA PLUMBING.MOTOR WARMS UP FASTER <SAVING FUEL>AND LOOKS A LOT CLEANER TOO.
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rob289c

While degreasing the intake, I noticed the coolant port felt slimy so I took it to the kitchen sink and ran hot water into the port.  dirty water and small bits of debris were coming out.  I continued to fill and shake the intake and more and more debris loosened and came out.  Eventually water started coming out of the small hose barb and more and more debris started pouring out.  I kept it up for at least 10 minutes until clean water and very little debris came out.  I noticed a little more external grime so after taking it out to further clean it I decided to run hot water through it again.  Glad I did...large chunks had loosened came out.  Classic sign of a poorly maintained cooling system.  There is probably similar debris in the block's water jacket.  Once it is time to run the engine again, I will run some coolant system flush through it.  I am a little leery of doing that as I know some of the dislodged debris will re-lodge itself in small spaces and maybe do more harm than good.  What do you guys think?  I asked in a previous post what it is and what purpose does the thing in the picture serve?  I am pretty sure that's where the debris was hiding before flushing the intake.  What was not cooling when the small hose port was plugged?  There is a 2-hose vacuum port on the opposite side from the water barb.  Just trying to understand what all the vacuum -operated components do so I can decide what to keep and what I can eliminate.
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Over the weekend I got the timing assy put together and continued cleaning/degreasing/painting parts.  I had to quit a bit early on Sunday as I had a 5-hour drive ahead of me.  Had to mow the lawn/zoop up leaves, and other chores so I could be away for a week.  Pics below of my progress.  The valve cover got a quick spray of black paint (it was blue), then I sanded the ribs to bare aluminum.  I like the look.  It will be powder coated as a permanent coating.  I had to trim and massage the baffle under the oil filler cap in order for the gasket surfaces to mate.  It is only on temporarily so I can see how it will look.  I cut the timing belt cover down so I can see the cam pully go around when running.  I degreased and painted the intake with aluminum engine paint.  I have more to do but it will have to wait until next weekend...
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dga57

The story of your house sounds like mine, with the exception of the deep lot.  It's on the outer edge of a circle, was four years old when we bought it, but had been totally trashed by the original owner.  We bought it for roughly half its appraised value at the time but there was a lot of work to do.  Fortunately, it was mostly cosmetic and within my scope.  I spent the first couple years whipping it into shape, and I have to say it has served us well.  We will have lived here 25 years this coming December, and the house has undergone several renovations to meet our needs.  My problem is that it's a large house on a small lot... no room for a garage at all.  Oh well!  I would have moved on years ago, but my wife was one of those kids that was uprooted and moved due to her parents' work for her entire life.  She attended over a dozen different schools and never felt she got to put down any roots or form any lasting friendships.  When we bought this house, she said she was never going to move again!  So far, she has stuck to her guns on that attitude whenever I've mentioned the possibility, but I still hold out hope that we can move someday.  I could do with a little less house and a nice garage; for me, that would be Heaven.

Dwayne :)   
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Thank you.  I made more progress yesterday.  More cleaning, degreasing, priming, painting of parts.  I replaced the crank, cam, and aux shaft seats.  Started reassembly.  Will do more parts prime & paint today.  I will do more assembly today.  I will have to cut my day short...I have a 5+ hour drive this afternoon as I will be working out of state this coming week.  I will post more pics of my progress later.

My garage: it started off life as a 22.5' wide x 22' deep attached garage.  When we moved here in 2003 I really wanted to live a little more in the sticks and have a 40x60 pole barn.  I cam across this house in a small rural development.  It is on a circle with about 40 homes and I am on the outer ring on a dep lot that backs up to a nice hedgerow.  The house was 4.5 years old and almost in foreclosure.  The former owner was a single mom that pretty much trashed it so with some cleaning, painting, and flooring we got a a pretty nice newer home at a bargain price.  The deep lot gave me the idea that I coule add on to the garage to create my own "pole barn".  So now I have a 22.5' wide by 66' deep garage.  The whole setup is pretty nice.  Over the years I've made the place the way I want it.  In the Wintert serves as a garage to house 6 cars, 2 motorcycles, shop equipment and tools and other stuff.  In the Spring, Summer, Fall it is a shop, and it also serves as a "party hall".  Now I will complain...22.2' isn't wide enough.  Of course the whole thing should be at least double in size!
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rob289c

Thank you...I will do more this weekend.
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dga57

It is, indeed, looking good!!!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Today I removed timing belt, aux shaft sprocket, Crank sprocket (both were a PITA!), removed timing belt housing, oil pan, valve cover, and other pieces/parts.  I cleaned and degreased the removed parts and hardware.  Primed and painted block, oil pan, new water pump, t-stat housing, timing belt housing, timing belt cover.  I have a couple of pics below.  My phone wouldn't send all the pics so I can't post them all.  I need to remove the cam sprocket so I can replace all three seals.  I will paint the cam sprocket as it will be exposed.  So far it's looking good.  I need to get the rest of the pieces/parts done so I can reassemble and reinstall before month-end.
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Crank pulley off, Intake off, water pump off, t-stat housing off.  Exh manifold bolts loose but haven't taken it off yet.  Need to R&R timing belt and tensioner, but need to clean up and prime and paint the inside of the timing belt area before replacing belt as it will be left exposed.  I will start degreasing the block, head, and oil pan and prepping for primer and paint.  I have a Mid-80's T-bird valve cover so the one on it won't be used.  Progress...
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Today I started removing components from the engine.  I stared with the alternator and power steering pump and brackets.  No problem with the alternator.  I was able to remove the two top power steering pump bracket bolts, but the lower one broke off.  I won't get into the details, but will divulge that I spent a substantial amount of time, effort and frustration getting the bracket off.  The process included a hammer, angle drill, pry bar, and while I did finally get it off, I cracked the bottom of the bracket by getting overzealous with the hammer.  I removed both motor mounts.  The left side looks like it had been replaced at some point but the right side is defective.  I have two new ones and a new tranny mount so all will be replaced.  I pulled the distributor out.  I removed the radiator hoses and disconnected the heater pipes.  I removed the fuel pump and the guard that is over it.  I removed the fan, fan spacer, and water pump pulley.  I removed the timing belt cover.  My next challenge is getting the crank pulley off.  I got the bolt out with my impact, but when trying to pull it off with a 2-jaw puller, the inner groove started bending.  I will take any advice from the experts on how to get it off without ruining the pulley.   Is heat advisable?  I think it might ruin the crank seal, but I need to get it off so I can replace the timing belt and clean up and paint the pulley.  I plan to replace the seal anyway.  I have sprayed penetrating oil where I could hoping it will loosen things up.   I loosened, but didn't remove the water pump and thermostat housing bolts.  Next weekend I plan to remove the intake and other fuel and emission system components.  I will have to figure out what I need to keep for vacuum hoses.  I want to eliminate as much as possible.  I plan to remove and block off the EGR.  The stock air cleaner won't be used so there are a bunch of hoses I won't need.  I have a header so not cat converter will be used.   There is a pic below of a component that I need help identifying.  It is under the intake/carb and has a HW line that runs to or from one of the heater pipes on top of the engine.  If anyone can identify it, please let me know what it is, what it does, and if it can be eliminated.  Once I get more stuff off the engine I will clean it with lacquer thinner, then prime, paint, reassemble, and put it back in the chassis.

I got some good news on the title.  The person I got the Mustang portion from found the title.  The previous owner signed it over to him but he never registered it in his name.  It is a PA title so he and I will have to go to a Notary in PA to get it in his name, then get it signed over to me.   A bit of a hassle, but it's what I will have to do to get it in my name and registered in NY.  I ordered and received a VIN tag that is stamped with the correct VIN so it will look official. 

I'm in crunch time with a short window of opportunity to hit the goals I set for myself before calling it quits for the season.  I will carry on...
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dga57

Sounds like pretty good progress under the circumstances.  I'll bet your house looks neat all decorated for Halloween.  My daughter-in-law handles all the outdoor decorating at our house.  She hasn't started on Halloween yet, but they're going on a vacation trip next week and she says she'll do it as soon as they return.

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

The underside is now black.  It took longer than I expected but it is sealed up really well.  I didn't get a chance to use the rattle can black in difficult to brush areas.  What I brushed on was still wet and/or tacky and I had enough paint on my hands and arms so I figured it would be better to wait than to mess up what I had just brushed on. 

More to come next weekend...
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Today I helped my wife decorate outside for Halloween.  We have a tree that gets hundreds of orange lights and takes over two hours to do, among other lights and decorations.  We had good weather today nd she had an Saturday off so we did it. 

This afternoon I brushed red oxide primer on the underside, including leaf springs, differential, axle housings.  Tomorrow I'll brush black enamel on and use black spray paint on any of the hard to get to spots. I need to take a good look at the engine and put my game plan together for some disassembly, cleaning/degreasing, sanding wire wheeling, priming, painting.  Will do some re-gasketing.  I have taken deliver of mot of my recently ordered parts.  I have a few more that will come this week.  I am looking forward to assembly in the near future.  That's when it gets exciting!
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dga57

Sounds like another busy weekend you have lined up there!  Keep us in the loop!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Tomorrow (Saturday) I will brush paint the underside.  Red Oxide Primer first, then black enamel.  That will seal up the underside and my next thing will be to start detailing the engine, engine accessories, and any other "under hood" parts.  I ordered a bunch of stuff from CJ Pony Parts and Rock Auto that are starting to trickle in so I have what I need to do a lot of the remaining work.  I bought an engine gasket and seal kit so I can re-gasket any external engine parts.  Might as well do it now with the engine on the stand rather than later when it is in the chassis.  I want to get the engine back in the frame before I put it away for the Winter.  I also ordered a VIN Tag with the VIN stamped on it now that I know what the Mustang VIN is.  I'll have to start working on the titling process.  I need to check with the upholstery shop that has my seat frames and covers to see if he's made progress.

There is a car show that I should patronize on Saturday but in order to stay on schedule, I can't sit at a show all day just to be cordial so I may pop in as a spectator only for a few minutes and make a donation to the show organizers.  I have a wedding to go to this afternoon (Friday) so that is kind of getting in my way too.  Anyway, I continue to make progress but there is still a long way to go. 
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dga57

Quote from: rob289c on September 18, 2022, 08:08:43 PM
  Long day, but progress was made! 

:o What an understatement!!!  You made AMAZING progress!  It looks great!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Started shooting Black shortly after 6:30....done and cleaned up at 8:30.  Long day, but progress was made!  I only painted the under side of the decklid black.  The top side will be body color.  I only have so much of the body color and no one will see the trunk area and underside of the deck lid unless the truck is open so I didn't want to waste it.  The body is going to be leftover Medium Gray Metallic from my EXP project. 
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Two more pics after shooting epoxy.  My exhaust fan pulls any airborne particles out.  It's a furnace fan on low speed.  I made a square to round transition and attach an Air FOrce Heater Hose to it to route it out the back door of my garage.  I use blue tarps to segregate the rear 2/3 of the garage from the "paint booth". 
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This AM I did all my prep work:  cleaning the surfaces, wiping down with degreaser, tack cloth, jacked it up, got the gun and paint materials ready.  I didn't start spraying till about 1:30.  Spraying the underside didn't work too well.  I will have to paint it with a brush.  No big deal; there isn't that much of an underside.  I sprayed all exterior surfaces, the trunk area, frame, and cabin with Epoxy.  Came out pretty good.  Since I got a later than desired start and the primer isn't quite cured, I am in a waiting pattern before I can spray black enamel.  It is about 5:00 now so I am hoping that by 6:30 I can do the black, then get everything cleaned and put away so I can put myself away for the night!  Pics of epoxy attached.  Will take pics of black later after spraying...
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