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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

1972 Runabout w/ 351 Cleveland

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Tonycando

If possible I would love to see some pics of work on the trans hump to clear the shifter linkage for the top loader,.i have mine mocked up in the car now and it will not clear the factory trans mount so I will have to build a new trans mount and cut out all the original stuff too clear.

Reeves1


65ShelbyClone

Quote from: frostedflakejake on March 12, 2013, 10:23:40 PM
Used these nifty rubber isolation mounts for my fuel pump (pics tomorrow). hopefully it stops the horrrrrrrrrrrrible ruckus that it used to make.

Quote from: frostedflakejake on March 14, 2013, 09:48:00 AM
Oh, my solid rubber isolation mounts for the fuel pump didn't work at all. I really thought they would because they did before. I'm starting to wonder if it's not the fuel pump that's making the noise but one of the hard fuel lines attached to the fuel pump vibrating on the body of the car. That also has to be fixed. It's so loud.

No, it's the pump. Holley red/blue/black carb pumps are notoriously loud. I have a Holley red in my '68 Mustang that is rubber-isolated and and hooked to soft lines and it's still quite noisy.

Quote from: frostedflakejake on January 16, 2014, 12:50:17 AM
I'm not even entirely sure I'll stick with my cleveland. When I get the cylinder walls checked I'll know. I've pretty much made up my mind on wanting to stroke it to the 380-390 range. But I have absolutely NO bias when it comes to who makes a motor. I would actually love, love, love to run a modern fuel injected V8. But I'm looking for 900-1000 combined hp and torque since I plan on moving this motor around to different (and much heavier) vehicles in the future. And finding a fuel injected motor that will do that, fit in the pinto, and cost less than a cleveland is damn near impossible.

Well, a 351W-based stroker would use the same bellhousing and engine mounts as your 351C...
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

entropy

Quote from: frostedflakejake on March 17, 2014, 10:26:31 PM
Absolutely. As soon as it gets warm enough here for me to paint the bare section of the wheels I got I will be taking the rubber off the rear Weld wheels and selling them along with the complete fronts.
I mounted my 15x8" wheel on my front end, which was changed over to 5 lug and bigger brakes, without any clearance issues. Sure it stuck out the body, but that gave me enough confidence to think a 15x6" would work just fine. Planning on 205-50-r15's.

Well, when you do, I'd like a crack at 'em!  You can message me here or at entropy156@yahoo.com
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

frostedflakejake

QuoteWell, I guess the next logical question is, since you said you can't stand the Weld wheels, are you thinking about selling 'em?

Absolutely. As soon as it gets warm enough here for me to paint the bare section of the wheels I got I will be taking the rubber off the rear Weld wheels and selling them along with the complete fronts.
Quote
Im shooting for 195-65-15's on my 74 sedan eventually. It currently has 185-75-14's, I figure they ought to switch ok. Ive been wrong before.

I mounted my 15x8" wheel on my front end, which was changed over to 5 lug and bigger brakes, without any clearance issues. Sure it stuck out the body, but that gave me enough confidence to think a 15x6" would work just fine. Planning on 205-50-r15's.

entropy

Quote from: frostedflakejake on December 17, 2013, 10:39:57 PM
Sure thing. The wheels were 15x8 with 4.5" of backspacing. They were mounted with (2) 1/8" spacers. The axle we believe was a Pinto 8". To be honest, we don't know. The previous owner thought it was a Maverick rear end but when we went to replace one of the seals we determined that was false. So then we tried Mustang II and that was wrong as well. So finally we took the damn thing into autozone with us and just bought whatever fit :) don't remember what it was. Probably just a stock Pinto 8".

My new wheels are of the same dimension as the Weld's that were on there and my 9" was supposedly made to the stock pinto width. I can't remember what that is now, but I looked it up and told my guy to make it that same width. And it all fits. I did have to do some grinding on the caliper but that was purely a function of the disc brake kit.

So to make a long story short, it's my understanding that you don't need to do any modifications to the rear end whatsoever to get 275's to fit; as long as you're okay with a fit like I have.

Well, I guess the next logical question is, since you said you can't stand the Weld wheels, are you thinking about selling 'em?
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

t5gt40x

Im shooting for 195-65-15's on my 74 sedan eventually. It currently has 185-75-14's, I figure they ought to switch ok. Ive been wrong before.

74 PintoWagon

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65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Reeves1

If I wasn't up-grading my front to 5 bolt & bigger brakes, I'd be all over these: http://www.fordpinto.com/classifieds/?sa=view;id=2802

I have a set on the white car. Not sure on tire size though.

frostedflakejake

That's very interesting, and i certainly appreciate your warning. However I have switched out those lifter bars for Lakewood Action lift bars. Hopefully those don't have the same issue as the Southside ones.

Reeves, I go home Wednesday for a few days and you have my word that I'll take photos of the motor mounts showing the highest amount of detail possible.

I have a question that I had a hard time finding. What size wheels/tires can I run on the front of a first gen pinto? My front end is completely stock. Can i fit a 205/50 R 15 on the front?

t5gt40x

hello there! I dont mean to butt in, but I just registered so I could post about those Southside Machine Lift Bars. I was warned by a fellow who likes to build some pretty hairy cars that they are
treacherous, having ripped his Falcon apart at the front spring mount. I bought a set and installed them on my 63 Galaxie years ago, and it still hasnt been driven, and wont be until I remove them.
That is such a neat Pinto, I would hate for any difficult damage to occur. I didnt see any sign of subframe connectors, I would be very careful without them, and absolutely paranoid about those SSM Lift Bars.
Best of luck with that monster.
If you forego the Cleveland motorvation, you wont have much problem getting rid of those headers!

frostedflakejake

Oh I thought I'd kept you in the loop! My father had built a separate 351c with the hopes of finding a cool car to put it in, but, he has yet to do so. So we knew I had to pull my motor and either do a complete rebuild or get a different motor. In the meantime, instead of having the pinto just sit there hopelessly, we put his freshly built Cleveland into the car along with his 4-speed top loader. To be honest, I had nothing to do with it. He got tired of moving the car by hand and dropped the pair into the car; but I do think it's a good idea.

I know his motor was built to be relatively stock. More of a resto-job, but it was a thorough rebuild. I think crank is probably the only thing to stay stock. I only know what I can see which is Demon 750 carb and edlebrock air gap. He doesn't have the GM style distributor like mine either.
And as long as I'm being honest, my car is slowly getting built by pops while I'm at school, which upsets me. I simply don't have the room, tools, or time to work on it here. Needless to say I do what I can while i'm at home, but it's just not a number 1 priority for me right now.

I'm not even entirely sure I'll stick with my cleveland. When I get the cylinder walls checked I'll know. I've pretty much made up my mind on wanting to stroke it to the 380-390 range. But I have absolutely NO bias when it comes to who makes a motor. I would actually love, love, love to run a modern fuel injected V8. But I'm looking for 900-1000 combined hp and torque since I plan on moving this motor around to different (and much heavier) vehicles in the future. And finding a fuel injected motor that will do that, fit in the pinto, and cost less than a cleveland is damn near impossible.

And of course, I forgot to photograph the engine mounts for you. I'll ask dad to do it and send me the photos.

Reeves1

Did you freshen the engine ?
Open it up for inspection ?
Put a bigger cam etc in ?

Details, man !

;D

frostedflakejake

Engine is in :(
My old man can't really handle a car with an open bay and a perfectly fine motor sitting on a stand being in the same garage at once. He's not really handling retirement well; very bored.

I will do the best I can with the motor in. It's coming back out probably in August; i'll try to remember then.

Reeves1

Then you need to take detailed pictures of the engine mounts while the engine is out (is it still out ?) !

frostedflakejake

That is precisely what they are!
New driveshaft was going to go in, but some doofus purchased the wrong U-bolts... I wonder who that could be? ;)

Reeves1

I'll bet they are the Headman headers then. Like this:





No longer made. If yours are in good shape they should be cleaned & ceramic coated, inside & out. Make them last longer & help keep the heat down in the engine bay.

frostedflakejake

QuoteJake - can you take some pics of your headers before you put it back together please ?

Here are pics/info on the original B2 headers from mine: http://www.fordpinto.com/your-pintos/new-car-!/90/

Sure thing. Going back home in ~10 days so I'll take them then.
Just a reminder, I was wrong when I told you that the headers went into the collector in a :: fashion. They are in fact four in a line like ....     ....

frostedflakejake

QuoteHey, what can you tell me about the rear end and rims that came with the car?  I'm looking to get some 275s under the back of mine and it's encouraging to see that it's been done before.  Any idea what the offset on those wheels is?

Sure thing. The wheels were 15x8 with 4.5" of backspacing. They were mounted with (2) 1/8" spacers. The axle we believe was a Pinto 8". To be honest, we don't know. The previous owner thought it was a Maverick rear end but when we went to replace one of the seals we determined that was false. So then we tried Mustang II and that was wrong as well. So finally we took the damn thing into autozone with us and just bought whatever fit :) don't remember what it was. Probably just a stock Pinto 8".

My new wheels are of the same dimension as the Weld's that were on there and my 9" was supposedly made to the stock pinto width. I can't remember what that is now, but I looked it up and told my guy to make it that same width. And it all fits. I did have to do some grinding on the caliper but that was purely a function of the disc brake kit.

So to make a long story short, it's my understanding that you don't need to do any modifications to the rear end whatsoever to get 275's to fit; as long as you're okay with a fit like I have.

Reeves1

Jake - can you take some pics of your headers before you put it back together please ?

Here are pics/info on the original B2 headers from mine: http://www.fordpinto.com/your-pintos/new-car-!/90/

entropy

Hey, what can you tell me about the rear end and rims that came with the car?  I'm looking to get some 275s under the back of mine and it's encouraging to see that it's been done before.  Any idea what the offset on those wheels is?
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

frostedflakejake

Couldn't find a drum brake kit for this bastard rear axle. The center of my new wheels are bare steel and are going to get powder coated, which is forcing me to think about what color to paint the car. I keep bouncing between radically different ideas.... anyways..


frostedflakejake

QuoteWhy not just finish the paint job yourself? basecoat clearcoat is pretty forgiving....a nd you can sand and polish it when your done. save yourself some dough! Looks good by the way. I had a 351 W in a pinto of mine with an FMX transmission. My current car has the original 4 cyl.

I know I can't paint in my driveway without dust being an issue; I've tried many times. The fee's Maaco will charge me are nil compared to the time and effort I have into the vehicle. And when, not if, they mess up I can just bring it back and have them re-do it for free :)

The car currently has a different cleveland and a 4-speed toploader into it that I had laying around. I pulled out the cleveland that was in it and am currently cleaning it up and will send it off to an engine builder sooner or later. I'm actually trying to purchase a Tremec TKO 5-speed off of a gentleman on craigslist right now. It should fit, but it might be a chore. It's significantly larger than the toploader. Either way I'm scrapping the c6. It was excellent with the stall converter for launches, but just wasn't as fun to drive as a manual. And the 3-speed was killing me. 

hotrodln

Quote from: frostedflakejake on August 19, 2013, 08:19:26 AM


Also sanded the epoxy primer and put on a grey urethane primer. The car is now ready to be taken to Maaco!



Why not just finish the paint job yourself? basecoat clearcoat is pretty forgiving....and you can sand and polish it when your done. save yourself some dough! Looks good by the way. I had a 351 W in a pinto of mine with an FMX transmission. My current car has the original 4 cyl. 

ETPinto

Awesome just found this thread good work!

frostedflakejake

More progress.

Did some cutting and welding of the front valence to make it fit. I don't see why people would bother with fiberglassing a new valence to make it fit for this application, that is other than more variation of looks. But for 5 hours of work I don't think it looks half bad!





frostedflakejake

Well I got the chrome runners on the roof off! Out of 8 little metal tabs that stick up two of them broke off the roof. I don't think it'll be a major issue but we'll see when we go to put them back on.

Got the motor and trans pulled this weekend. Holy cow. What a HELL HOLE that was. I've heard before that the trans tunnel needs to be cut and adjusted to fit the c6? Well I can tell you that it doesn't, but then it will take you 6 hours to pull the drive train. Had to seperate trans from motor in the car and then ended up taking the fly wheel off in the car too (that was fun).

Also sanded the epoxy primer and put on a grey urethane primer. The car is now ready to be taken to Maaco!


frostedflakejake

No I don't have the actual rack :( I would also like one.

Alright great! Thanks alot I'll try that when i get home from work; i would have never thought of that. I thought FOR SURE they had some type of screw/bolt fastener going through the roof and I tore up my headliner trying to find it....

Pinto5.0

You had a roof rack? I'd love to find one for my 71.  Those chrome strips are on those T shaped rivets that are spot welded to the roof. Push them either toward the front or rear of the car & you should feel them pop off the rivets. Then just lift them off & grind the rivets off.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

frostedflakejake

There was MUCH more bodywork than pictured but i figured you guys would get the point...
That driver side front fender was a WRECK. Took lots of tries to flatten it out.

I also picked up a 9" axle over the weekend and should be dropping it off at a shop tomorrow or the next day for shortening and rebuild.

I also picked up a Holley Strip dominator and a 4speed toploader. Neither are installed.
I might order new wheels tonight and new tires for the front.