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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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frostedflakejake

So this is the kind of color I'm going for. I have 3 more weeks of school and then I get a week off for spring break; during which I will be visiting my parents and doing some sort of work on the pinto. I'm hoping it's nice enough outside to do a good chunk of the body work. I plan on priming the vehicle myself before sending it to paint, but I would be surprised if it's warm enough for anything to stick. We'll see!

Color Inspiration (beautiful car by the way):




frostedflakejake


Reeves1




If you want to see it bigger, right click & "save as". Should show up bigger on your computer ?

frostedflakejake

QuoteYour best bet is probably Fred Morgan... he's on the site here.  Check him out for any Pinto parts you might need.
Dwayne

Thanks for the heads up! Unfortunately he didn't have one :(

Evidently that bumper is pretty rare (via a pinto parts guy in SE michigan I called).

My father is going to look at a hood for me tomorrow! Fingers crossed!

Can anyone point me in the right direction to find a picture of a relatively stock looking gloss black pinto? I can't find one on google. Thanks!

dga57

Your best bet is probably Fred Morgan... he's on the site here.  Check him out for any Pinto parts you might need.
Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

frostedflakejake

Does anyone know a good pinto part source? I'm looking for a good condition rear bumper for my pinto that is not meant to have the bumper guards. All the ones i've found so far have the holes for the guards.

frostedflakejake

Purchased a stock front valence on Ebay. Not sure if i'm going to use it or fab up something from scratch. We'll see!

Reeves1

I found that Pintos are so light on the back a locker can act like it has a spool , because there is not enough weight/traction to make the clutchs slip.
Lockers will slip. Spools do not.

frostedflakejake

QuoteYou say the diff is "locked". As in a normal traction loc Ford ? Or has a spool ?

Unfortunately, I don't know what that means. Here was my test: As I was leaving my storage facility the pinto was on jack stands. So i put the car in neutral and moved one of the rear tires with my hand and saw that the other rear moved as well. Also from the way the car handled turning around with the wheel fully locked it certainly seemed like the rear axle was locked.

Thanks for all the stall convertor info guys :)

Pinto5.0

Here is the tricky part of stall converters. If you intend to drive your car on trips or daily use at sustained highway speeds you are gonna want a stall speed below your cruise RPM. If you go 65 mph & turn 2750 rpm then a 2500 max stall is all you want or it will slip at highway speeds & build unwanted heat & wear things out prematurely.

This is why it's near impossible to run monster cams in daily drivers with automatic trannies unless it's equipped with a lock up converter. I ran a 5500 stall in my Duster with a .657 lift roller cam & 4.56 gears. I had roughly 1000 rpm worth of slippage when I was driving to cruise nites & keeping the engine under 4K rpm. You could feel it when you blip the throttle in gear.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

racer99

A stall convertor will not slip alot in normal driving.
I have a 9 in. convertor that goes 4200 on the footbrake
and 4900 on the brake.

Normal street driving it takes about 150-200 more rpm to
get the car moving over a stock convertor.

jeremysdad

I've (and could be wrong, so grain of salt here) always thought of torque converter stall thusly:

I think of it as a clutch, since once it reaches stall speed, it locks (as it were) into a 1:1 power transfer (theoretically, but at the end of the day, it is a fluid coupling), like a clutch would when engaged.

If your powerband starts at say, 3000 rpm, then you would want to launch your car at roughly that rpm, so that full power is applied as soon as possible off the line. A high stall tc accomplishes that via slippage until that point (esp when combined with a line lock or trans brake), which is why high stall converters zoop in stop and go traffic (sluggish from idle-stall speed). They also make more heat than a low stall converter, so a cooler is a must.

Again, this is my understanding of the concept, and may or may not be spot on. Ymmv, not responsible for transmission component failure, etc. lol :)

frostedflakejake

Oh, I have dubbed her Pinelope by the way.

Probably not the most clever name, but I like it.

frostedflakejake

duhhh. I knew about the line lock, but for some reason i never though to apply it to all 4 wheels. I mostly see guys use it strictly on the front for burn outs. Thanks for the responses guys  ;D

QuoteOdds are, it will have a stall converter.
I'll see if a link is on this computer for you.

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/selecting_right_torque_converter/

Ooooo good link. Not sure I entirely understand how it helps launch the vehicle. So would I just have the car in first and then just mash the gas?

Like you, the quarter mile time concerns me a little bit. I also expected it to be higher, not that it's a huge deal for me though. That's why I'm looking into how the car would be launched. I know that the car doesn't have line locks. It does have a really hard time hooking up too, or so i've been told. Which makes a lot of sense to me. There isn't a whole lot of weight over the rear tires. I also haven't a slightest clue how built or how stock the motor is either.

I drove the thing for about 2 miles. It was too snowy and i knew too little about the vehicle to feel safe driving it home. I imagine it doesn't have the nicest freeway manners. So I drove it around the block when I got it home and off the trailer. That's about it.

Thanks for the timely responses guys! A nice group here  8)


Reeves1

Odds are, it will have a stall converter.
I'll see if a link is on this computer for you.

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/selecting_right_torque_converter/

Also, with a C-6 you likely had mods done to your trans tunnel. Big tranny !

You say the diff is "locked". As in a normal traction loc Ford ? Or has a spool ?

Will be interesting to see what all the car has in the end.

351C should do better than high 12s. Maybe not hooking up ?

jeremysdad

That works, too. :) lol Forgot about trans-brakes.

Pinto5.0

A trans brake is what they run as well as manual shift valvebodies
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

jeremysdad

Professional racers usually use a 'line lock' in the brake system, which does what it sounds like, it lets you apply the brakes, engage the lock, and it holds pressure in the lines for you. Then car goes in gear, and throttle is depressed to desired level. Switch lock off, and car goes vroom, down the track. lol :)

frostedflakejake

So I was thinking, lots of people use these c6 trans' with the manual shift kits for drag use. So how do they launch the car? For those that don't know, its a floor shifter that moves strictly forward and backward. As so:

R
N
3
2
1

So how the heck do they launch the car? Keep it in neutral, rev, and then slam the shifter all the way back into first?
I'm merely curious; i don't race and i don't plan on racing.

frostedflakejake

QuoteDid you look at the motor mounts ? They "normal" in the normal location ?

The motor mounts are not in the normal location, or at least I don't believe they are. They look to be moved forward, as you expected!

I will most certainly keep this updated as I progress. Although I'm afraid to say that progress will be non-existent until May except for trying to locate a few parts. Like a new rear bumper. Someone majorly dented the one that's on the car.
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Holy smokes that's a beautiful car

Thanks! Unfortunately I would have to respectfully disagree. It is a bit "in your face" for my taste, but if you are going for that look that it most certainly fits the bill! Also it does need a fair share of body work. Every panel needs some sort of help.

Quoteits a problem when you can not fit the regular front valence, that is a make or break look for a pinto the original was a nice curved jobbie that was spot on for the car the hot pants front spoiler/ valence looks perfect on a pinto but all the other flat front air dams look o wrong really spoil the look of the car,

Well I'll try to remember that you won't like the look then  ;)
I hardly think that what I'll end up doing will look as correct as the stock front valence, but I like to think it will look better or at least less threatening than how it looks right now.
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I wondered when someone was gonna buy that car. It was on Craigslist for awhile but too far away from me to check out.

Same! I've been following it for months and was wary because it never sold and all the other ones on Craigslist had. I think the lack of knowledge about the car might have scared people off. The seller was a kind old man once he opened up. Had lots of projects including a mint Road Runner in his barn!

Pinto5.0

I wondered when someone was gonna buy that car. It was on Craigslist for awhile but too far away from me to check out.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

racer99

^^^^
Sorry,I disagree.
Look at the avatar picture above your post.

cannonball


its a problem when you can not fit the regular front valence, that is a make or break look for a pinto the original was a nice curved jobbie that was spot on for the car the hot pants front spoiler/ valence looks perfect on a pinto but all the other flat front air dams look o wrong really spoil the look of the car,

Reeves1

From the front (your pics showing the headers under car) the headers look like the Headman Hustler version. Did you look at the motor mounts ? They "normal" in the normal location ?
The headman ones require front mounts.






They do not (from what I can see) look like the Hooker type, that the back two tubes on each side go through the fender & wrap around the frame rail.

Looks like a very good project ! Hope you keep us up-dated as you go along !

From_Jonah

Holy smokes that's a beautiful car.
1977 wagon - baby blue full restoration project.

1980 wagon - (77 front clip) converted to cruising wagon. (Sold in 2015. Can't find her again.)

frostedflakejake

Quotehave you any idea what it ran like in the 1/4 mile,

High 12's is what I've been told.

And yeah I've read through that thread with the front spoiler airdam. Thanks though :)

I'm pretty sure the tubes go into the collectors like this ::

QuoteWith a built 351C you'll never have a daily driver

Sorry for the confusion. I have no desire for this to be a daily driver. It will be driven every weekend. I just want it to not look so much like a drag car.
Quote
I doubt you have the room.

I know it's wishful thinking. I honestly think I will be able to fit the power steering booster. But I suppose i'll just have to find out.
Quote
You have any good pictures of how the engine is mounted ?
Under car pictures ?

Unfortunately not :/ I am punching myself for not taking a bunch of pictures when I had the vehicle. I dropped it off for storage a few days ago.

QuoteNo need for a new carb (what size is it ?). You can put a choke in the one you have.

Some of your street problems may be a large cam. Maybe a stall converter ? How high ?

Due the lots of unknowns on it, you may end up doing a tear down to see what you have in the C-6 & what you have for a converter.

I haven't a clue. I plan on pulling the motor in May along with taken inventory. I am uneasy about how much is unknown about the drivetrain and the entire car, but nonetheless it should be a fun summer project.

Thanks for your input! I really appreciate your time.

Reeves1

QuoteCreate a custom front valence that will fit. The radiator got moved so far forward that a stock valence will no longer fit.

http://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/new-spoilerair-dam/


Quoteget the Hooker headers designed for the 351c swap.

Haven't been made since the 80s. You are looking at custom made. (Going through this now for my BOSS 302)
Just had a second look at your pictures. Are the collectors flat ?
Tubes go like this into the collectors  ....  ? Or like this ::  ? First one are the Headman Hustler Headers. If they are in real good shape & not ceramic coated yet, then get it done. It will make them last longer. No one makes them anymore.

With a built 351C you'll never have a daily driver (sounds like that is what you want). Work hard, save gas money....you are going to need it.


QuoteAdd a power steering booster.

Add a power break booster.


I doubt you have the room. (Anyone know if Norm's car has boosters ?)

You have any good pictures of how the engine is mounted ?
Under car pictures ?


No need for a new carb (what size is it ?). You can put a choke in the one you have.

Some of your street problems may be a large cam. Maybe a stall converter ? How high ?

Due the lots of unknowns on it, you may end up doing a tear down to see what you have in the C-6 & what you have for a converter.

cannonball

looks great matey i like the orange my dad did his back in 73 he changed it from green to orange that was a bright daring color back here in england at that time,

have you any idea what it ran like in the 1/4 mile,,,

frostedflakejake

I purchased my first pinto about a week ago now. As you can see in the pictures, it's a orange 1972 Runabout with a 351 Cleveland shoved in the hood. Has a C6 with that manual shift. It was used as a street/drag vehicle. It came with a rear valence off the vehicle. Rear axle is locked; haven't calculated ratio yet. I honestly don't know a lot about working on cars, but everyone has to start somewhere. My father has successfully restored/built many vehicles so I will have him to turn to if I must. I have spent my entire life surrounded by a hotrod community; it's about time I got into it.

My Plans

First off, my picture for this vehicle is a half sleeper. What I mean is that I don't want the vehicle to look like a stock pinto from the 70's. If I show the car to someone I want them to think "Wait.... is this just a pinto with new shoes and paint or is it a real deal machine?"

Do body work until I get sick and tired of it. Might replace the driver side front quarter panel if I decided it's necessary. It has quite a lot of funk going on with it .

Create a custom front valence that will fit. The radiator got moved so far forward that a stock valence will no longer fit.

Get the vehicle repainted. I will do all the body work, sanding, and lay down my own primer. I will then send the car to Maaco. My father and I have found that this is the best way to ensure that Maaco does a good paint job. I've painted smaller objects before (motorcycle helmet) with pretty good success, but you can only get so far without a booth. As of right now, I'm thinking of a very dark green with very little flake.

Probably paint the bumpers a matte black. Not too sure. Have to wait and see how the paint turns out.

Change wheels. I can't handle the Weld Wheels. They offer little of style to me.

Put street tires on the front. I'll keep the street radials on the rear if they fit whatever wheels I decide I want.

Get rid of that ridiculous hood scoop and get a different air cleaner. Planning on a hood with a little bulge. Maybe 1.5"

I would like to lower the ride. But I know it will destroy the usability of the vehicle due to the headers. I will have to balance ride height and having the get the Hooker headers designed for the 351c swap. I won't be able to decide until I see the repainted pinto on the new wheels.

My fuel pump is hard mounted and makes a horrific amount of noise. I'm going to try to rubber mount it and maybe even deadening the panel it's mounted to in order to try to reduce the noise.

Add a power steering booster.

Add a power break booster.

Add cutouts and a different muffler (question on this below!!!!)

Change the carb. It has a drag carb with no choke and is a little unpredictable for my street use.



So that's the list! Nothing will get done until may. But I'm going to try and start collecting the few parts that I can. I'm a college student and I bought the vehicle over my winter break and I have a summer job at Ford so progress will be slow, but steady. I plan on keeping this car for ever. I really like the looks of it.

My first question! What muffler would you guys suggest for shutting up the 351? Since I want the car to kinda be a sleeper, I can't have it as loud as it is right now. I think it has flowmaster 40's. It sounds great, but I need it to be quiet for my purpose. My buddies have all run electrical cutouts dumping before muffler with great success. I was thinking of doing the same. The exhaust work on the car is really nice and I hate to cut it up, but I need to. Hell, even just so I can come home into my neighborhood past midnight without causing a stir. I will disconnect the mufflers and listen the vehicle with open headers first to make sure it's a noise I can live with. But I need ideas! I've never looked a mufflers to make something quieter before; only louder.

My second question! I don't suppose there is anyone who stamps out body panels for us pinto folk? If not, I've found a few places that makes fiberglass body panels. What is the word about these places? I know some people glass wonderfully and some of them should be shot for selling their product.

That's it for now :) ..... i think. I don't know much of anything about the motor. I guy I bought it from bought it how it was and he bought it how it was and so on and so forth.

Onto pictures!