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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

New project... 1980 Runabout

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dga57

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r4pinto

Pics of the  oil pan.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

No new pics today but I got some more work done to the car today. Well started to anyway. I've been soaking the oil pan insides to make sure it was good and clean before bolting it back up, then followed up with the wire wheel to clean up the outside. for paint. The pain is in ok shape and while the paint I sprayed on in 2009 held up the outside did have some bubbling from rust. I also got the gasket surfaces cleaned up and noticed some scratches and minor pitting. While I don't like to do this normally I went ahead and put a small film of gasket maker on the pan to take care of those minor imperfections, and hopefully prevent a future leak. One of the mounting flanges was also slightly bent so I flattened it out to make sure it will have a good seal on the block. Once the sealer is dry I will put the oil pan on an old box or other support method and primer it before painting it with Old Ford Blue. Once painted I will clean the mounting flange on the block and install the oil pan. Monday the engine will be installed in the car. Can't wait.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Forgot to put the pic up last night but I repainted the battery tray with the Rustoleum Harbor Blue. The bottom side was painted in a darker Dupli-color blue I had in the garage so I didn't use all the Harbor Blue on the tray. Looks 100% better. Tonight I'm hoping to pull the wiring from the engine compartment and move it out of the way so I can finish degreasing & painting the engine compartment. The Harbor Blue isn't a perfect match but close enough for now. I can always repaint it later on if I feel like spending $20 per spray can for the original 3F paint code.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Due to the heat I wasn't able to get much done to the car. Too hot in the garage without any fans so I did what I could. Got the battery tray pulled, rust ground off with a wire wheel, and both sides sealed with self etching primer. Next step will be painting both sides of the battery tray. It won't go back in the car until after I finish with the engine compartment. Hopefully that will go ok.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Thanks! I went to respray the engine, and ran out of paint so I grabbed the next can. It was the darker, Old Ford Blue. So I went ahead & resprayed the entire engine. Looks better anyways since that was what it was originally painted in the 1980. I also did a trial spray with Rustoleum Harbor Blue in the engine compartment. It's very close to the original color and will look much better once done. Just got to remove the wiring & other parts, and finish degreasing, while repriming where needed. I also removed the battery tray and started to use the wire wheel on it. I will give it a couple coats of self etching primer, and then repaint the entire thing with the Harbor Blue paint.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

It's looking good, Matt!!!


Dwayne :)
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r4pinto

Engine pics. After primer, after painting
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Got some painting to the engine done. Engine primered. Once the oil pan is clean and installed I will primer it and get it ready for paint as well. I can also primer where the hoist is holding up the engine. Unfortunately I can't put the engine on my stand since it is occupied by a 1980 Ford Courier engine block.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

So I done some thinking. While the engine is out of the car I am going to go ahead & repaint the engine compartment. While I don't have the time to wait for the actual color to come in if ordered online I will locate a color that is close & use it. The color won't be an exact match but close enough for now. It will look a lot better than it does now with thin paint. I don't know if it was the combination of the scrubbing or thin paint in the engine compartment but it's something I can't let go. I have a month before the car show and anything worth doing is worth doing right. There is enough time to get it done... In theory.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

74 PintoWagon

That sucks, some people shouldn't be allowed to own tools let alone work on vehicles..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

r4pinto

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on August 25, 2016, 07:25:57 AM
May as well put inserts in all of them at one time and be done with it..
I plan to inspect the threads and do just that if they were stripped. My Dad & I have found that the previous owners of this car did some messed up stuff. The starter bolts were out by about 1/4", bellhousing bolts not tight possibly due to stripped threads on the bellhousing, rigged hatch seal, 14" wheels from a Tempo on the rear that had center bores smaller than the hubs- had to beat them off with a sledge hammer. Radio was wired funny when I removed it, holes drilled for various LEDs in the instrument cluster and wood insert above the glove box, messed up wiring under the hood before the fire. Good stuff. At least it's getting fixed right.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

74 PintoWagon

May as well put inserts in all of them at one time and be done with it..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

r4pinto

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on August 24, 2016, 07:52:14 AM
I've seen a lot worse, you're coming right along keep up the good work..

Thanks. The new motor mounts arrived today so those will be getting installed in the brackets tonight after I clean & paint them up. I might also clean the engine up some. Haven't decided on that yet or not. I also gotta check the threads in the bellhousing. My Dad reminded me the threads may have been stripped, as we found. removing the bolts
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

74 PintoWagon

I've seen a lot worse, you're coming right along keep up the good work..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

r4pinto

Thanks. I got some more scrubbing but it looks good for the most part. I'm glad since I was afraid I wouldn't be able to save any of it. I looked under the car last night & saw the fuel lines & brake lines are badly rusted so they will be changed before starting the car. The first time I run the car I want it to not have a leak. Right now it might. The 77 brake lines were redone in 2007 so I will use them. The fuel lines are in better shape so I might use them also. The sending unit also looks sad so I will change it out as well
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

74 PintoWagon

Amazing what a bath will do, looks pretty good..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

r4pinto

Engine from the 77. I will be cleaning it up a bit, which will include fresh paint and new oil pan gasket and rear main seal.


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Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Engine compartment is partially degreased. Wanted it to be safe since there was a lot of oil from the massive oil leak.


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Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Another update. Engine is out. Gonna do a little cleanup on it before installing the engine. Did notice the car has blue paint inside the bell housing and outside as well. Not sure if that was oem or an indicator of a replaced transmission
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

So I went ahead and jacked up the front of the car and got the old oil drained from the engine. Since the car had not had an oil change since I owned it the oil was real nasty. Who knows how long it was before then. While I was under the car I checked the rotors and found the RF wheel to barely turn. I unbolted the wheel and the bearing is almost completely seized. I also noticed the rotor itself is junk. The rotors on the 77 are in much better shape so they will be going on the 1980. I had already replaced the front bearings on the 77 back in 2010 so I know those bearings are good.

I also looked underneath and saw it has a little more rust than I recall but the car sat and appears to be solid. I will be sealing the floor eventually. I also found a nice surprise. I looked at the transmission and noticed the pan looked deeper than the 77's transmission. I counted the bolts. 11 instead of 13. Turns out the 80 has the C4 transmission instead of the C3 like the 77. I'm a happy camper with that find, even with finding the bad brake rotor, and locked up RF wheel
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Doesn't look too bad now that she isn't covered in junk. A bath will happen as soon as she runs.


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Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Thanks. I'm having issues with figuring out the wiring as I look at it since the wiring was destroyed in the fire. Parts were fixed in 2012 but I didn't complete it & now have a bad situation since my before fire pics don't show the harness. I don't know why on Earth Ford decided to make wiring changes in 1980 when they were killing off the car but they did. Tonight I'm going to my Dad's house to grab the rear main oil seal from my Dad's house, and will see if I can find the 1980 vacuum & electrical Pinto book. Too late to buy another one off ebay to get it here before the weekend. It's a shame I have a good running 77 but can't use the harness as a template but it is what it is. I will also get the car jacked up tonight & remove at least the front wheels. The rears are 14" rims from a Ford Tempo and don't want to come off. Those will be going on the 77 but only after I file the center hub of the wheel so they go on. that car will never see the road again so doesn't matter much.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Quote from: r4pinto on August 16, 2016, 11:37:50 AM
The moment I have been both dreading and waiting for. This weekend I will be pulling the engine from the car and installing the one from the 77 this weekend. It's bitter sweet. I've owned the 77 sedan since 2006 and don't want to part with it but the car is unsafe at any speed. Cancer claimed her but she will live on through the 1980. I rebuilt the engine back in 2010 so it's strong. Only exception are the rings. Had great compression so I didn't. While the engine from the 1980 gets rebuilt I will run the car with the 77 engine. My dad and I are going to pull it Saturday. Next in line is the mess of wiring burned in the fire and brake inspection. It will also get the wheels and tires from the 77. Wheel covers are from a 1985 Ford Tempo. With any luck the car will run again very soon.


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Hope everything goes smoothly!!!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

The moment I have been both dreading and waiting for. This weekend I will be pulling the engine from the car and installing the one from the 77 this weekend. It's bitter sweet. I've owned the 77 sedan since 2006 and don't want to part with it but the car is unsafe at any speed. Cancer claimed her but she will live on through the 1980. I rebuilt the engine back in 2010 so it's strong. Only exception are the rings. Had great compression so I didn't. While the engine from the 1980 gets rebuilt I will run the car with the 77 engine. My dad and I are going to pull it Saturday. Next in line is the mess of wiring burned in the fire and brake inspection. It will also get the wheels and tires from the 77. Wheel covers are from a 1985 Ford Tempo. With any luck the car will run again very soon.


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Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Now I will say I DON'T like to make repairs to parts like I did to the headlight bucket, but right now cash is tight, and the cost to fix using the radio bracket was perfect. FREE!!! As for the center bracket, I don't know what the original was like but if I had bought the car I would have never known it wasn't original. Before I painted the center bracket I went ahead & filed down the sharp edges that were left from cutting the bracket.  I had a piece of cardboard that I used as a template when the grille was mounted, and then transferred the bend to the shelf bracket using my dad's vice that I "borrowed". Overall I am very pleased with even the little task that was accomplished. The grille is far from perfect but it looks much better than  the black grille with the chrome buckets, and I don't like the black look anyway.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

The brackets all painted & installed
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

So I finally got some pics of the work. I ended up painting the brackets with some flat black paint and they came out ok. I also went ahead & hit the buckets with the flat black as well so they look a little better.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Necessity is the mother of invention.  Well done!


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.