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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Restoring my 1971 Ford Pinto Trunk Model

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dga57

Quote from: larjohnson on September 20, 2010, 06:18:33 AM
The On The River Car Show was fantastic!!!!!  Had a great time with the family and some close friends.  There were about 300 cars there, and a lot of really nice classics.  Believe it or not, I had the only 2 Pintos there....LOL.  Had a great time, will post some pictures this week, once I'm hooked up to the internet.  You all have a great day...... Larry :police:

Sounds like a great show, Larry.  Yeah... I believe you!  In the past five years, I have seen precisely ONE Pinto at ONE car show (excluding my 2008 trip to Carlisle)!!!  It was a very nice red '74 Runabout and the owner was nowhere to be found!  That was three years ago, I think.  They are definitely a rarity at a car show!  Looking forward to the photos!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

The On The River Car Show was fantastic!!!!!  Had a great time with the family and some close friends.  There were about 300 cars there, and a lot of really nice classics.  Believe it or not, I had the only 2 Pintos there....LOL.  Had a great time, will post some pictures this week, once I'm hooked up to the internet.  You all have a great day...... Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

blupinto

Good for you Larry! I'll bet you'll have fun!  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Have fun and takes lots and lots of pictures!!!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Pinto Family, my wife, youngest son and daughter are going to the ON THE RIVER CAR SHOW in Vevay, Indiana this Saturday. 
This will be my 3rd year in a row.  I'm taking the 1971 trunk model and 1972 Runabout, I'm really stoked.  There's usually about 300 cars there, and it's held right along the river banks of the Ohio River at what use to be the Ferry Landing in Vevay.  I spent a lot of time at this Ferry Landing when I was a kid, and even rode the Ferry across the river I bet a hundred times.  I cannot wait for this show, it's always one of my favorites each year.  Will post some pictures once I'm back on the internet.  Everyone have a great day!!!!! Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Larry,

I am so happy to hear that things have finally worked out and you are settling into your new house.  You are definitely right... if you're remodeling to the point of new flooring and new cabinetry, the less stuff you have in the house, the better!  It may make the next several weeks a little rough, but it will be worth it in the long run.  Enjoy!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Yay!!! we got moved into our new home.  The home was very nice; however, dirty from sitting so long.  My wife did a great job cleaning the place, while my son and I moved things to the house.  We haven't moved much into the home, only because we're painting and reflooring the entire home, so it seemed silly to have things inside to move around, while we remodeled.  The wife picked out her new kitchen cabinets and appliances this past weekend, so we should be in great shape, in about 5 weeks.  Glad this nightmare is over, and cannot wait to get back to normal.  I'll be on the internet nightly now, and can spend more time with my extended Pinto family.  You all have a great day......Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Larry... did the closing take place as expected?  Hope so!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Larry, you didn't REALLY want a condo anyway! ;D  Here's hoping this house is a GO! ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Geez... what a hassle!

We really SHOULD move.  Our house is a split foyer and a rancher would be so much more practical since my wife's stroke.  It's stories like yours that frighten me into just staying put!  Not just yours, but have heard other horror stories too.  Here's hoping that everything works out this time and you get to move in this weekend!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Dwayne:  Thanks...this has just been so awful, here's the time line:
May 2009, sold our house in the country, we were told everything is a go, we moved most of our stuff to storage.  Buyers had home inspection done, they wanted 82 things fixed, the worse being a clogged drain to the least being tightening of a screw.  It was ridiculous.  We made repairs, which cost us about $500.00, but we did what they asked.  Well....they were not able to get their loan, they were denied, after the bank told us it was a go.  These new regulations.   
November 2009, moved our stuff back to the house from storage.
March 2010, sold our house again to a single woman, she couldn't get financing either.
April 2010, sold our house again, to a man and woman, that went through, but not without great difficulty. 
April 2010 made offer and got it accepted on a condo in Muncie.  Found out because of new regulations, we couldn't get financing on this particular condo, so that fell through.  Therefore, we had no home to go to, and in June 2010 moved in with our son, and that's where we've been living ever since.
June 2010 made an offer on a repossessed HUD house in Anderson, Indiana, and our bid was accepted.  All our stuff again moved to storage, pending closing on our new home.
September 2010....YaY!!!!  it looks like we just may close tomorrow September 1, 2010.  If so we're moving into it this weekend, and this nightmare may just be over.
I'm never moving again....lol     Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Man... talk about lousy luck!  You'll probably need the vacation more AFTER the move anyway!  Hope it all works out for you this week and you can soon get settled into your new home!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

UGH!!!!!   This selling and buying a house thing has been horrible.  We still have not moved, nor have we closed on our new home.  It looks like we may close on Wednesday September 1, 2010.  Please cross your fingers.  The wife and I were slated to go on vacation last week to sunny Florida, but the bank called and wanted to close last Friday, so we canceled our trip.  A few days later they called and said there had been a mistake and we wouldn't close until the following week, which is this coming Wednesday.  I had canceled my vacation, rented trucks, my sons and daughter took time off to help with the move, and then it's canceled.  This is so aggravating. Well maybe Wednesday all our troubles will either be over or just starting. Please wish us luck!!!!  Hope all my Pinto friends have a great day!!!! Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Quote from: larjohnson on August 17, 2010, 09:36:39 AM
Dwayne:  When you take the plunge, here's one Pinto buddy who will come and help you move.  Just let me know the date, time, and place, I'll be glad to help.  Larry :police:

Thanks for the offer, Larry... that's well beyond the call of duty, being that I live in Virginia!  Our intention is to stay in this house for as long as we possibly can.  My wife has lived here longer than anywhere else she's ever lived, and other than the house I grew up in, the same is true for me.  It is truly home and we don't want to leave it if we can continue to cope with the stairs.  My son barely remembers living anywhere other than here, although he has some vague memories of our previous house. 
Dwayne :smile:


Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Dwayne:  When you take the plunge, here's one Pinto buddy who will come and help you move.  Just let me know the date, time, and place, I'll be glad to help.  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Larry,
I can only imagine!  We've been in our house for nearly thirteen years and I have NO desire to ever move.  The problem is that it's a split foyer and we really need to be on one level since my wife's stroke.  We keep procrastinating, but I know we're going to have to take the plunge someday and I really dread it.  Hope you'll enjoy your new home!
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Pinto Family....I will never, ever move again!!!!!!  LOL :laugh:  We've been working with our Realtor, the bank, and HUD, and it looks like we're finally going to get to close on the sale of our new home.  Hallelujah!!!!!!!  Should be closing next Monday August 23, 2010, and get immediate possession.  We moved out of the old home June 10, 2010 and have been living with our oldest son since then.  Even though it's been great and we've enjoyed it, I can't wait to get back into my own home.  I will keep you all posted on our progress soon.  BTW, the 1971 Pinto from Washington State is already tucked away in a garage at my younger son's home in Anderson, Indiana.  So it's already been moved to it's new home.  I simply cannot wait to get into the house, hope you all have a great day.  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dave1987

Glad to hear you found yourself a new home! I pray it's nicer for you than your last home and that you are happy with it. Glad to hear things are going well for you! :D
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Quote from: larjohnson on July 22, 2010, 05:20:08 AM
Hey Pinto friends.....I haven't been able to post for awhile as my wife and I have been displaced from our home.  We sold the home about 2 months ago, and the deal on our condo fell thru.  We have now purchased a home in Anderson, Indiana, and should be moving into it in about 3 weeks.  Currently we're living with our eldest son.  It's working out pretty well, but I'm anxious to get back into my own home again.  You all have a great day.  Larry :police:

Wow... had been wondering what happened to you!  That would be my luck... sell the house and then have nowhere to go! :lol:  Sorry about the condo, but hope you'll find happiness in your new house.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Larry, may your new house keep you warm and dry and become home.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

larjohnson

Hey Pinto friends.....I haven't been able to post for awhile as my wife and I have been displaced from our home.  We sold the home about 2 months ago, and the deal on our condo fell thru.  We have now purchased a home in Anderson, Indiana, and should be moving into it in about 3 weeks.  Currently we're living with our eldest son.  It's working out pretty well, but I'm anxious to get back into my own home again.  You all have a great day.  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on May 27, 2010, 01:40:30 PM
Larry, I am jealous! That sounds like a lot of fun! Take lots of pictures!  ;D

Well, me too, Becky... but I wasn't going to come right out and say so! ::)

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Larry, I am jealous! That sounds like a lot of fun! Take lots of pictures!  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: larjohnson on May 27, 2010, 07:50:53 AM
My wife, daughter, and son are going to a fantastic car show this weekend.  I am of course taking this 1971 Pinto I got from Reed, and my son is taking his 1966 Ford Mustang.  My son is also taking his girlfriend Paige, and I've invited a special young man to go along with us, we call him Bubba.  This is the best car show ever, it takes place in a 1950's town which has been built in a man's back yard.  There should be about 400 cars there, and the hamburgers and hotdogs will be a grillin!!!!!  If you'd like to see a little bit about this car show, just go to asummerplace.com, it'll tell you all about it.  I'll post some pictures.  Have a great day.....Larry :police:

I can't wait to see those pictures!  Have fun!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

My wife, daughter, and son are going to a fantastic car show this weekend.  I am of course taking this 1971 Pinto I got from Reed, and my son is taking his 1966 Ford Mustang.  My son is also taking his girlfriend Paige, and I've invited a special young man to go along with us, we call him Bubba.  This is the best car show ever, it takes place in a 1950's town which has been built in a man's back yard.  There should be about 400 cars there, and the hamburgers and hotdogs will be a grillin!!!!!  If you'd like to see a little bit about this car show, just go to asummerplace.com, it'll tell you all about it.  I'll post some pictures.  Have a great day.....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

larjohnson

Well...my parents actually have been bitten by the Pinto bug.  I found a beautiful 1977 Ford Pinto Squire Wagon with 34,000 actual miles on it, in Maumee, Ohio.  When I told my parents about it they were hooked, and decided they wanted to buy it.  So my daughter, granddaughter, and I went to Maumee Ohio April 10, 2010, and bought this beautiful piece of Ford history.  Hope you all enjoy it.....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Quote from: larjohnson on March 17, 2010, 01:36:24 PM
Dwayne:  Trading 5 acres for a home on a cul de sac.  I have 2300 sf now, and looking for something around that size.  The yard is a bit much to keep up, and I live down a long lane, it's terrible in the winter.  The wife and I are just simplifying our lives.....at least we hope.

Thanks.

Larry :police:


Sounds like a plan to me!  We live in a subdivision with a small lawn so upkeep isn't too bad, however I also do the mowing, etc. at my mother's since dad passed away six years ago this weekend... she has 2 1/2 acres to mow.  I understand your need to simplify!  Hope it all works out for you!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Dwayne:  Trading 5 acres for a home on a cul de sac.  I have 2300 sf now, and looking for something around that size.  The yard is a bit much to keep up, and I live down a long lane, it's terrible in the winter.  The wife and I are just simplifying our lives.....at least we hope.

Thanks.

Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Larry,

I agonized for about a week over whether I should leave the Pinto promo intact, or assemble it.  I finally decided to go ahead and put it together.  After all, I didn't buy it as an investment and my enjoyment of owning it is greatly enhanced by the ability to exhibit it.  Probably not the smartest course of action, but I have no regrets.  At least, doing it this way, all my stickers are intact!

You've sold your house?  Trading up, or downsizing?  Are you staying in the same general area.  We've been in our house for more than 12 years and I have no desire to ever move again.  Such a chore!

Enjoy that trip to the ice cream shoppe!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Dwayne:  Sorry, I just noticed your post on the motorized Pinto promo car.  WOW!!!! You got one that's not put together????  I bought one last year, it was already assembled though.  I've got a nice Pinto collection going now!!!! I'll continue to buy little interesting pieces, and my collection will grow.  If the weather stays nice this week, I'm getting the 71 Pinto out and taking her for a spin.  Maybe my wife and I will go get ice cream.  It looks like I've sold my house, at least we accepted an offer and it looks like the buyer has an approved loan.  So I'll be busy the next couple of months, better get some Pinto time in, while I have the time....lol
Have a great day....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!