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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

The 'Green Machine' Project! 71' Sedan

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pintogirl

Hey, Finally did something to the Green Machine today!!! LOL  All thanks to what I did to the Ghost! And of course Fred!!  ;D

The Ghost was haveing issues with the mirror glass and Fred found me a glass and body. So after taking the good glass out of the body, I put the bad glass (kept falling down and had to have silicone to keep it in place) in the body, then proceeded to install all that on the Green Machine!! Someone had put an aftermarket mirror that sagged down. Just looked like crap, not that the car looks the best!! LOL So one mirror fixed two cars!!! I really didn't mind having the silicone on the Green Machine but I wanted a clean mirror for the Ghost, so it all worked out good!!  ;D




Next I will be installing ( hubby will actually lol) a new set of points in her very soon, then I can see if that was causing her weird behavior while cruising down the road!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

r4pinto

My Pinto has had more death rattles than I care to count. She dies, and I fix her, just to have her die again... Darn reaper lmao....
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

larjohnson

Crap!!!! I hate the death rattle..... sorry!!!!! Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

blupinto

Wish that theory worked. I hoped that with my '74 with her engine knocking... turned out it was a death rattle.  :(
One can never have too many Pintos!

larjohnson

Kim:  I know sometimes my old body gets to knocking, and as I get up and moving the knocks work themselves out.  Maybe since the Pinto is nearly 40 years old, it's just going to have to work out all the knocks and bangs as she goes.  I just love it when things seem to fix themselves, and everything just seems to come together. 

Of course, the Pinto may just now be figuring it out that someone actually loves it again, and she's beginning to come around...lol

Love the Pinto, hope all goes well.....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

pintogirl

Ok, so we looked at the tranny and throw out bearings and all and it all looks ok, as far as we could tell. So we put it back in the car and the knock was still there.

Today hubby and I went to the post office in it. He figured we would stop by the tranny shop and see what he thought, on our way back. Well, the knock started to subside. So when we got closer to the tranny shop, we checked on the knock, and decided that we would just drive it for a while and see how things play out! Could be that since the tranny was re built in 1984 and then sat in a shed till 2009, it may have something to do with the knock. Maybe something had a bit of rust on it and with time it will get lubed more and more! If not, we will get another tranny! LOL


So for now I have 2 Pintos that are driveable, finally!!!  ;D  The white one gets better comments, but atleast I get the "my parents had one of those" with the green one! LOL Sitting at the post office, some guy came up and started talking to me about it and said he was suprised that they even still sell parts for them. Hubby said that I had my own collection of parts! LOL  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

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larjohnson

Kim:  I have no clue.....but it looks like you had alot of good suggestions.  Hope you get her figured out....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

Carolina Boy

I seen this post and had to write. I had the same noise in the past with another Pinto. It was the throwout bearing. Changed it and knock disappered.

Oh yeah, Make sure the air pressure is 4 psi at the top pf the head light.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

TIGGER

It sounds to me like the key here is that the knocking sound is made when the clutch is released.  I would re-check the fork and throw out bearing to make sure all that is installed properly.  This is all that comes to mind at the moment.
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pintogirl

Quote from: smallfryefarm on October 21, 2009, 07:48:34 AM
sounds like it might be a bad throw out bearing. Also check pilot bearing.

The pilot bearing is new! The throw out bearing didn't knock in the old tranny so we are kinda ruling that out.


Any yes, Smallfryefarm, we checked that muffler bearing too! You know how hard it was to find one??  :P :lol: ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

smallfryefarm

might be the canootinary valve off the muffler bearing.  :lol: :lol: :lol: i know, im such a idiot,  :rolleye:
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smallfryefarm

sounds like it might be a bad throw out bearing. Also check pilot bearing.
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pintogirl

Got the new rebuilt in 1984 tranny! LOL Yep, that is when the guy (now dead) rebuilt this tranny! He put white grease on everything so all moved freely!



After painting it a flat black, we installed it and tested it out! The bad noise that the old tranny made is gone. BUT now there is a knocking noise!  

Tonight we un installed, LOL, the new tranny and opened to top and didn't see any thing visibly wrong. So hubby is going to talk to the tranny guy tomorrow and see what he thinks it could be. If all else fails we will re install it and take it to the tranny guy so he can listen to it! Good thing it's not much of a job to put in and out!

It knocks when it is in gear, and when in neutral with the clutch out. Soon as a push the clutch in, the knock stops. Any guesses?
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Well, today we pulled the tranny. Tomorrow hubby is going to get a new/rebuilt tranny and then hopefully we can re install tomorrow night!!

The huge tranny! LOL


Exploded view. LOL



We ended up buying a new pilot bearing and a new universal joint. Other then that the clutch and all looks good!!

I sure hope this fixes my problem with the tranny. Next I need to figure out why it seems to have a problem when at speed. It seems like it has a hesitation with the fuel. Or maybe it is mis fireing. It does go ok though. Hubby had it up to 75 on the freeway, LOL!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Quote from: larjohnson on October 13, 2009, 06:18:33 PM
Kim:  How about SNUG AND SHARP UNDER A TARP??????  LOL  Larry :police:

I like it!!!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

larjohnson

Kim:  How about SNUG AND SHARP UNDER A TARP??????  LOL  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

pintogirl

Well, the leak test failed! I am happy to report that she only leaks on two sides of the windshield! LOL The leaks are about a quarter of the way down on both sides. I think I will try a different windshield gasket next time. I have bought the last 2 at Autokrafters and both have leaked. On the first one (Ghost) we tried ot with no silicone or anything at first, gasket only. I leaked bad. After breaking the windshield trying to get it back out, we tried putting slicone in gaskets grooves, both in the one that the windshield sits in, and the one that goes onto the cars pinch weld. It leaked too. The kid ended up having to run a bead of (the stuff to install the newer sheilds without gaskets) black goop around the outer edges of the gasket. It doesn't leak now. That wasn't the way to do it though.

On both windshields, the gasket seemed to big. Although after working with it, the kid got it to fit the windshield, but to me you should have to actually have to pull on the gasket a bit to get it to stretch over the final corner. I checked the box and it did say it was for 71-78, so I figured it was the right one. I think they are just making them so universal, that they don't fit tight enough.

On the Green Machine we tried something different. This time (same Autokrafters gasket as the Ghost) we got some special tape that is supposedly the stuff that helps seal the gasket tot he car. Can't remember what it was called but it is kind of tacky and kinda resembles double stick tape, but not as thick. I'm not sure if it (the tape) didn't have enough time in the heat to get sticky enough to atatch itself to the gasket or maybe it just doesn't do what I thought it would do?

So, when I get ready to do Shaggy's windshield, I plan on getting a gasket off of Ebay or someone else besides Autokrafters. I'm not saying Autokrafters is a bad company, just that I havn't had much luck with the gaskets they carry!!

The Green Machine now sports a nice silver tarp!!!  ;D ;D All snug as a bug under at tarp! LOL Ok, so it didn't rhyme, but it's not a rug! LOL  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

smallfryefarm

Pintogirl its a shame you dont live closer i have a 4spd in the garage floor you could have.
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larjohnson

Kim:  WOW!!!! you and Hubby have a project going.  Good luck!!!!  Be positive, it'll pass the leak test....well maybe.....Have a Great Day....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

pintogirl

Well, it's official. Hubby finally drove the Green Machine back from Wendy's today and it started to do the clutch/tranny/something thing! I mentioned it above, that it will act like you have no control over the releasing. We adjusted the clutch cable when Fred was here and Fred drove it, and it seemed fine although it made a clunk noise. Well, after getting the tranny nice a warmed up, that clunk noise is alot worse, although hubby had control over the car and it never peeled out or stalled. The clunk is BAD!!!!

We have decided to take the tranny out of the grey Pinto (soon to be a V8 Pinto anyway), and put it in the Green Machine. I was told by the PO that only thing wrong with that tranny was it had a bad clutch. No biggy because my clutch still works. Well, atleast it has tension to where the one in the grey car, pedal goes to the floor and stays!

I'm hoping to get the grey car in tomorrow. Then hopefully get the green car in by this weekend. All depends on hubby! LOL

Once the swap is done, I'm hoping I will be able to rely on it like I can rely on the Ghost! That is if it passes the leak test during the up coming rain storm! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

Kimmy, you can also refer to Chuck's thread "Finally Found Some Motivation..." and do the dash pad that way too. Knowing what you've been doing lately I'll bet you can ace it!  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

larjohnson

Kim: I don't know...I'm thinking if you'd get a really thin foam backing, and drape that over the dash, just to get out all the imperfections.  Could probably be attached with just a hot glue gun and spray adhesive.  Then get a heavier fabric, maybe like a denim or tweed, then stretch it over the foam covered dash....glue (or spray on adhesive) or staple in place...presto!!!!!  A wonderful new dash pad, for just pennies.  Just a thought, you have nothing to lose, if you don't do a good job, strip it all off and let the pros cover it, or just get you a new dash pad later.   Happy repair......Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

pintogirl

Quote from: larjohnson on September 30, 2009, 12:08:45 PM
Kim:  The dash looks incredible :amazed:.  Are you getting a new dash pad, or having the original one recovered?  I've seen some cars at recent shows where they just covered the dash with fabric and such, and it really looked amazing :amazed:.  I know the dash pads aren't terribly expensive, but to recover one in fabric should only be a few dollars vs maybe $100.00 for a new pad.  Just a thought.   If I had it to do over again, I'd have probably just recovered mine, that is if I could do a good job.  From the looks of the paint job...you'd do a good job.   Keep the pix coming, I've enjoyed them....Larry :police:

LOL, when I said dash pad, I meant the kind that is made of cloth and goes over the whole dash, metal and padded parts.  But in all seriousness, I am hoping someone will be rebuilding the padded part by the time I am ready for it, or I should say when I can afford to have one done!!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

larjohnson

Kim:  The dash looks incredible :amazed:.  Are you getting a new dash pad, or having the original one recovered?  I've seen some cars at recent shows where they just covered the dash with fabric and such, and it really looked amazing :amazed:.  I know the dash pads aren't terribly expensive, but to recover one in fabric should only be a few dollars vs maybe $100.00 for a new pad.  Just a thought.   If I had it to do over again, I'd have probably just recovered mine, that is if I could do a good job.  From the looks of the paint job...you'd do a good job.   Keep the pix coming, I've enjoyed them....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

smallfryefarm

It does look good Kim. She will be a nice ride.
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popbumper

Looking good Kim, I love the progress!!! You are fortunate to have these projects, and a place to keep them!!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

pintogirl

Ok, I finally got the Green Machine out of it's hole and was able to fix the lowsy paint job!! It looks alot better and by the time I put a dash pad on it, you will never see any flaws! LOL  ;D



Next is to install the windshield, which should be this Sat!! Then it is to fix the clutch issue!!!! Then I can drive it too!!! I already put the buss in it's old "hole" (parking spot) and the Ghost now resides under the carport which opened up a spot for the Green Machine, so I can get to it easy enough take it out when ever I want!!! Only thing with this set up, I will have to cover and tarp the Green Machine when it rains! Someday `down` the road hubby want to buy to more carports and put them in the back yard, for the cars that we want to drive once in a while. That way we won't have to tarp them if they are leakers!! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

larjohnson

Kim....remember....baby steps...we take baby steps with these restorations.

It'll be greaaaaat!!!!!   Good job!!!!!

Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

pintogirl

Well, I had just as much luck with the final paint, as I did with the primer. In fact I had to use the button off the primer can to get the paint can to work! I was so fustrated by the time I got the can to spray right that I didn't pay attention when I went to get out of the car, and I must have jiggled it to much and debri fell onto the just painted section of dash!

I can't really complain to much though. I really didn't have the car in the best spot for painting. I will wait til I can pull the car out from under the car port, then I will do a light sand and re spray!

Here is the final look. You can see it is very uneven!


This is an older pic, but it shows how the car is sitting when I was trying to paint! All I did was pull the car covers back and tried to shoot from inside the car, then get out and shoot the driver side from the outside. It's not the way to do it!! LOL



At least it is coated with paint and will not rust now! I hope to be able to get the windshield in before first rain, but if not, atleast the moister wont effect the dash anymore!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

larjohnson

Kim...kinda anxious to hear...how did the new paint look, were you able to get it applied????   The car will be a great project for you.....my wife is already looking for another for me, I think she's tired of me being in the house again, now that the 1971 is finished....lol :lol:   Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!