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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #120 on: February 14, 2009, 08:17:42 PM »
Congrats on the great progress!!! I'm glad things are going better for you and baby!!!  ;D  Here's hoping for no rain in your area for tomorrow!!!

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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #121 on: February 14, 2009, 10:33:51 PM »
Thank you Kim and everyonme for your help. I just got back from a wild goose chase because the nearest AutoZone told me they had one water pump gasket but it disappeared after I got there. The guy at the counter told me the AZ "about a mile away" has one in stock. Also their radiator bolt clips had been opened and both packages were missing one clip. It turns out the AZ the yahoo was talking about was almost 5 miles away! No wonder I had a time locating it!

     Now I have what I need (I hope!) to continue next time.

1) the old pump. Note a piece is missing from the heater hose outlet. The gasket was darn near nonexistent.

2) Can I get this pulley off without messing something up?

3) closeup of pulley (I believe it's the camshaft pulley, and the rest of the timing belt is on the sprocket.
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« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2009, 10:58:26 PM »
I had that Issue with Autozone a few days ago when i went after a serpentine Belt for a family members car. They said they could order one and that it would be there the next day. I go in and It wasn't there Nor had they a record that they ordered the part. So they called around and found me a store that had the belt ( the hub store) so i go there and they should have picked the part and put t on hold, I get there and they are selling that belt to another person. Again they call around and I go on a goose chase to 9 other stores, all say they have the belt but when they go look its not there. Finally I went to checker and and low and behold the next day I have a belt for the car.

 As for the pulley that you mentioned, I believe you can rent a pulley puller at Checker and or Autozone for those to take it off. 

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« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2009, 11:14:31 PM »
I'm taking it you don't have a Napa Auto Parts there????   That is the only place I go to for Pinto parts!!! Well, for most all my parts! I just don't like Kragen and AutoZone because 99% of the time, those places don't have the part I'm looking for!! Napa has never failed me. Well, maybe on the headlight and windshield wiper switches, but other then that, never failed me!! LOL

I'm glad things are going good for you now!!!! Can't wait to here about the first time you come back up the hill!!! LOL

Oh, Becky!! I'm trying to talk hubby into trailering my Pinto to Knotts!!!! So I hope I can meet you there!!! I have till April 5th to talk him into it!!!!! If I do, I'll be bringing the Ghost!! Since it is the one that actually can move on it's own with no problem!! LOL

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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #124 on: February 14, 2009, 11:28:56 PM »
Oh Kim that would be SO COOL!!!! Please do come! I would so love to meet you both and see The Ghost in the flesh (or at least the metal!lol) If all else fails put Hubby in a headlock! lol.


        A pulley puller... now you've got me scared. I'm not so worried about if I can get the pulley off as much as I'm worried about turning the pulley nut and thus moving anything inside the crankcase.


        Kragen had my WP and lower hose (the guy who has the '71 Maverick even gave me a discount!) so I don't really have issues with them but the human factor at AZ was what I took issue with ("oh, we can put a 12-hour hold on that gasket for you...") ("It's about a mile away if you stay on this road...") Grrrrrrr....

          I have a Napa nearby but I think they close earlier than the others, and they didn't have my WP when I went around to get prices for stuff.
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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2009, 11:38:33 PM »
Oh Kim that would be SO COOL!!!! Please do come! I would so love to meet you both and see The Ghost in the flesh (or at least the metal!lol) If all else fails put Hubby in a headlock! lol.


        A pulley puller... now you've got me scared. I'm not so worried about if I can get the pulley off as much as I'm worried about turning the pulley nut and thus moving anything inside the crankcase.


        Kragen had my WP and lower hose (the guy who has the '71 Maverick even gave me a discount!) so I don't really have issues with them but the human factor at AZ was what I took issue with ("oh, we can put a 12-hour hold on that gasket for you...") ("It's about a mile away if you stay on this road...") Grrrrrrr....

          I have a Napa nearby but I think they close earlier than the others, and they didn't have my WP when I went around to get prices for stuff.

I may come down on my bike (m/c) if I can't talk hubby into taking the car, or going at all!!!

Oh yah, forgot that I have a Napa Wharehouse here! so that kinda makes a difference on them having my parts!! The little Napa stores within the city don't have the parts all the time, but I live close to the main warehouse, so that is where I go first!!

Off topic a bit, but my kid drove my Pinto out of the garage for the first time!!!! LOL I was excited for him to be driving such a classic, although he didn't realize what he was driving!! LOL

Ok, back on topic!! LOL  Can't wait to here how tomorrow goes for you Becky!! I hope you can make more progress on the Baby!!! I'm planning on starting on the "patch job" on the headliner on the Ghost tomorrow!!!

You know I was thinking, we really do have carbon copy's of cars now!! My Ghost is supposed to be a Copper color!!!!!! It is an automatic too!!! LOL

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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #126 on: February 14, 2009, 11:55:24 PM »
And Ghost has pop-out widows too... ;)

Congrats on Ghost being driven! Yes, it seems the younguns don't appreciate history til they're  artifacts themselves! lol. 

       One thing I noticed AZ has is clips for trim and interior panels. I'll have to hunt for what you need...
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« Reply #127 on: February 15, 2009, 01:56:21 AM »
the nearest Napa Warehouse to me is about 18-20 miles from me.. Not a drive i really wanted to do. They do carry alot of parts but Im not Going to go there if they are far away.(unless im going to the J/Y anyways

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« Reply #128 on: February 15, 2009, 11:50:05 AM »
the nearest Napa Warehouse to me is about 18-20 miles from me.. Not a drive i really wanted to do. They do carry alot of parts but Im not Going to go there if they are far away.(unless im going to the J/Y anyways

Yah, my Napa is about 15 miles from me too! I have a Kragen and AutoZone about 1/2 mile away in either direction. After numerous failed tries on getting parts from them I finally gave up and just do the drive to Napa!! LOL
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« Reply #129 on: February 15, 2009, 11:58:52 AM »
I gotta admit I also go to Kragen for ulterior motives... ::) besides the friendly service and that I relied on Kragen (in San Diego) when I had my first Pinto, I can flirt with the Maverick guy that works at this one! ::) :laugh:
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« Reply #130 on: February 15, 2009, 12:27:03 PM »
I can flirt with the Maverick guy that works at this one! ::) :laugh:

I guess that is the best reason for going there then!!!!  ;D
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« Reply #131 on: February 15, 2009, 01:24:20 PM »
 ::) Well, you know... ::)

     As for the pulley: I have a short respite from the storms headed my way. Can I simply loosen that nut on the crankshaft pulley or can doimg this be detrimental to the inner workings of the engine? Remember: I am an idiot about stuff like this so be patient with me!!! Pleeeeeze...
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« Reply #132 on: February 19, 2009, 05:30:10 PM »
I have decided to have my next door neighbor/mechanic pull the harmonic balancer (crankshaft) pulley because I cannot do it myself. He will also replace the timing belt and put the timing right. I don't know what I'm looking for, and the books I have are really no help. Once that's done I will personally replace the water pump, put the fan and radiator all back on myself (I can do that! lol.) so I hope folks out here in Pintoland won't think less of me because I cannot do it all. But that's why I sometimes pathetically plead for help, like on the pulley. I just want the BAby to be able to safely make the trip to Buena Park and back. And beyond, for that matter.
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« Reply #133 on: February 19, 2009, 06:15:16 PM »
I have decided to have my next door neighbor/mechanic pull the harmonic balancer (crankshaft) pulley because I cannot do it myself. He will also replace the timing belt and put the timing right. I don't know what I'm looking for, and the books I have are really no help. Once that's done I will personally replace the water pump, put the fan and radiator all back on myself (I can do that! lol.) so I hope folks out here in Pintoland won't think less of me because I cannot do it all. But that's why I sometimes pathetically plead for help, like on the pulley. I just want the BAby to be able to safely make the trip to Buena Park and back. And beyond, for that matter.


Oh, Becky! I can't believe you have stooped to letting someone else work on the car! LOL Heck yah, with that kind of stuff I would be doing the same thing!! Course I did! I had hubby and his friend to the timeing and all on my car. Don't worry, I don't think any thing less of you!!! You are playing it smart!!!!  ;D

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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #134 on: February 19, 2009, 08:50:53 PM »
You silly goose!  :lol:

So have you convinced Hubby to trailer The Ghost down this way? (say yes, say yes)
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« Reply #135 on: February 19, 2009, 09:11:55 PM »
You silly goose!  :lol:

So have you convinced Hubby to trailer The Ghost down this way? (say yes, say yes)

I'm still working on it!!!! LOL  Keep your fingers crossed!!!!!
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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #136 on: February 19, 2009, 09:38:16 PM »
Out of all the repairs you will encounter, pray that you will never have to do your ball joints yourself. I am in the process of doing them and it will end up being a three day thing. Well worth it in the end, just very fustrating and time consuming. I haven't slept in 21 hours and I work in two. ugh.
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« Reply #137 on: February 19, 2009, 10:01:50 PM »
I don't mean to be dumb (but I know I am!) but how do you know when to replace ball joints? As for loss of sleep, I hear you. I'm kept up nights lately because I only got half a paycheck and my mortgage is approx. 1 1/4 paychecks per month. This just happened early this week. Sorry. I got off topic.
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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #138 on: February 19, 2009, 11:56:40 PM »
Yikes :o
What happened... did your hours get cut ???
By the way, not all of us are mechanics.  You are already tackling jobs I wouldn't even dream of doing.  On the other hand, I do quite well with bodywork, paint and interior work.  That's why it was so important to me to locate a good-running Pinto, regardless of its cosmetic issues. 
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« Reply #139 on: February 20, 2009, 10:24:40 PM »
 Thank you dga57. You flatter me!

 :drunk: :devil: ;D :D :lol: :tgif: :laugh: :amazed:
I don't think I can keep it in... OOOOH I CAN'T!!!! WHOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My wonderful reliable most-favoritist neighbor mechanic went above and beyond the call of duty and not only put the timing belt on and timed everything but he put on the water pump (he offered. what am I gonna say no?! lol.) and took off that dratted harmonic balancer (crankshaft) pulley. I learned all about the pulley puller and how to use it. Here's hoping I'll never need to use one! lol.  :drunk:

       After he got the TB on and everything in sync he had me start it. OMG!!!! IT SOUNDS LIKE A PINTO!!!!! Not the rattletrap it sounded like before.

       So here's the exciting part. He put that stuff above on and I replaced everything I took off (radiator and hoses, cooling lines, fan and shroud, new spark plug wires). I hadn't had a bite to eat from 7:30 am til 7:00 pm. I was on my feet all day watching Jerry and keeping him company and when I wasn't I was busy soaking my sweatpants in atf that escaped the cooling line hose loop he created and knocking greasy dirt chunks (the name of my new band! lol.) into my eyes while underneath the Baby. lol.

Oh. the exciting part... I feel like it's Christmas. As exhausted as I am I don't know if I can sleep, for tomorrow I will top off her missing fluids and TAKE HER ON A MAIDEN VOYAGE!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!  :drunk: ;D :lol: :surprised: :amazed: :afro:
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« Reply #140 on: February 20, 2009, 10:33:00 PM »
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO I"m so excited for you Becky!!!!! That is just to awesome, what a great neighbor you have!!!!! I know your going to love your Maiden Voyage!!!! Hey, do me a favor and go to your local "beanery" for me!!!!!  ;D

Have fun tomorrow!!!!!

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« Reply #141 on: February 20, 2009, 10:36:17 PM »
I was tempted to ask Jerry to take a picture of me elbow deep in my car's vitals with my digi camera but blah me with non-flattering clothes plus a bunch of old car grease smeared all over me would've broke said camera! lol.


      I didn't mean to go so overboard with my exuberance. I needed this. I've been so depressed because my paycheck is drastically reduced (hello chronicallyove rdrawnville!) and my on-the-job injury is not getting better (more reduction in pay- only 2/3 of my normal paycheck.). So any small victory for me I'll embrace with all my might.  And when it concerns that gorgeous little Saddle Bronze Metallic dreammobile in my driveway it's so much more so.  
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« Reply #142 on: February 20, 2009, 10:47:28 PM »
I love your emoticons Kim! The cheerleader ones really reflect how I feel right now. I can't keep the smile off my face!

      The Baby's probably always going to be a work in progress. THis was a major hurdle (aside from engine rebuild, ball joints  ::) etc.) Tomorrow I want to explore why Baby's heater hoses are looped (bad heater core I'll bet). To have a car that won't die on me on a minor incline will be so good. Did I mention SHE SOUNDS LIKE A PINTO!?! LOL!

         I want to thank everyone who gave me hope and suggestions. The people who share my Pinto Passion are a great bunch! (not that non-Pinto people aren't) but you all are the best!  :-*

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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #143 on: February 21, 2009, 08:51:21 AM »
For the ball joints, the clear sign to replace mine was the boots on them. Mine were torn open, shooting out all the grease I would fill them with onto the wheel well skirts, every time I hit a bump. No point in greasing ball joints if they are going to leak, right? If they arn't greased, they wear quicker, and ball joints are what hold your spindles to your control arms, and tires are mounted to your spindles....yo u get the point. :)

A good way to check for wear is to jack the front of your car up, then rock the tire in and out with hands on the top and bottom of it. If there is excessive movement, then they will need to be replaced.

If you have torn boots, your spindles will be COVERED in grease, like piled on. I scraped off grease piles 1/2" thick off the driver's side, and yesterday I scraped off grease piles an ENTIRE INCH THICK off the passenger side. I didn't realize the spindles were soo narrow, as the grease build up made them look a lot bigger!

Now my front suspension is nice and clean, and should make it easy for the alignment shop to work on! :D

I haven't had an alignment done on the car since the engine rebuild due to the ball joints. Les Schwab wouldn't give the car back unless the ball joints were replaced due to leaking grease boots.


Good luck on the maiden voyage, and I hope you don't have any unexpected events happen along the way!
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« Reply #144 on: February 21, 2009, 06:53:52 PM »
 :accident:

(this is my earlier euphoria coming to an unceremonious halt.)

My anticipation turned quickly to dismay when, upon turning Baby's key a disturbingly clattery sound erupted from her innards. It sounded like thin sheetmetal hitting more thin sheetmetal. I and a couple neighbors looked to no avail. Meanwhile the sound little by little faded away.


       On her very brief maiden voyage Baby wasn't accelerating as well as she should, but at least she didn't stall on the way up the hill- she faltered and stalled in front of my house. There's gas in the tank (treated with Sta-Bil). This was suspect because she felt like she was starving for gas. Perhaps she is. I changed that fuel filter a couple months ago and didn't get too far since. When I took the line that goes into the filter and what was caught in the collection cup? Surprise surprise... gas and sediment. Lots of sediment. I'm so bummed now.  :'( >:( :drunk:
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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #145 on: February 21, 2009, 07:07:35 PM »
You should be happier. You know what the problem is and it's an easy repair.

Just keep a few filters on hand until the gunk clears out.

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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #146 on: February 21, 2009, 07:30:48 PM »
Yeah, I though about just buying a gross of the things but if there's that much metal particles in the tank I'll run out of filters before I run out of gunk. It looks like I need to drop the tank and at least empty it of everything. At this point I can't trust the Baby driving down the street- much less to Orange County and back.  :'(
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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #147 on: February 21, 2009, 07:33:46 PM »
Do you want cheese with your whine Becky?  :lol:
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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #148 on: February 21, 2009, 09:29:36 PM »
Do you want cheese with your whine Becky?  :lol:
Thats just MEAN Kim!!!  :cheesy_n:
Becky, sounds like one of the pulleys hitting the timing belt cover, they tend to get bent pretty easy.
Say "I'm sorry" Kim or you're going to time out!  :lol:
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Re: The Baby (aka the copper queen)
« Reply #149 on: February 21, 2009, 09:45:27 PM »
Thats just MEAN Kim!!!  :cheesy_n:
Becky, sounds like one of the pulleys hitting the timing belt cover, they tend to get bent pretty easy.
Say "I'm sorry" Kim or you're going to time out!  :lol:


Hey, I didn't say that, she said that to herself!!!! Me and Becky are Pinto buds, we only say that kind of stuff to each other in PM's!!!!!!!! LOL


I'm sad to here you are still having problems with your baby! Sure wish you were closer, I know a radiator guy that can clean out your tank!! Hopefully you can get it out and cleaned soon.

I have confidence that you will have the baby up and on it's hooves before to long!!!! Just keep on reining her in!!!  ;D

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