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turbo !
« on: March 14, 2010, 10:56:02 AM »
i have a turbo off a 6.? GMdisel and am going to use it on my 2.0 pinto. i will have to make an adapter to accepct the exhaust manifold. and one for the intake. and make a plenum or the hollly 650  i will use .
  NOW FOR MY QUESTION . should i use a waste gate ? what psi boost to run ?  or where can i find turbo info ? i am sorta lost, but know enough to be dangerous.
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Re: turbo !
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2010, 04:36:38 PM »
Go to the FAQ section here, there's a bunch of info in turbo pintos.  Try turboford.com (do lots of reading) and turbopinto.com

Google "ak miller pinto turbo".  Hey, lookie there!  http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1635140992.html

Having said that, as a general rule, turbos and carburetors do not go together terrifically well.

Good luck!

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Re: turbo !
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 11:45:16 PM »
Let me first say, "I'm the type who has one part and then builds a car around it." So, I understand your desire.  That said, you will be a WHOLE lot better off just getting a complete turbo setup from a donor Turbo Coupe (or the like).  As was stated a carburator and a turbo (especially lacking a wastegate etc.) is full of pitfalls.

Search out this site for my posts "Wittsend" and follow my saga (or others).  I have often commented that a turbo Pinto looks like a 2 on a scale of 10.  In reality it is a hard 7 on a scale of 10.  And, that was having a complete donor Turbo Coupe at hand. Creating something that has inherent problems from the start makes it only harder.

I'll close with saying a GM diesel likely has a turbo too large to spool up quickly and a 650 seems like overkill for a 2.0.  Sorry.

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Re: turbo !
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 01:11:07 AM »
I and others here have much experience with turbos on the 2 litre. Many others here have experience with turbos and the 2.3 litre.
My experience was many decades ago and was all centered around the 2.0 and a carb.
They can be made to run very well on a street car and as past 1/4 milers will attest; they can be extremely potent. However - do have to agree with the gentlemen who replied previously. In this day and age a turbo without fuel injection and / or an intercooler is really not the way to go if you are looking for relatively trouble free performance in all aspects.
The FI adds SO much to the drivability of the car that comparisons really can't be made.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

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Re: turbo !
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 01:46:12 AM »
I am running a 650 dbl pumper on my 2.0 turbo motor. The tuning process is a bit tough and would be almost impossible with out a wide band O2.  I blow through my carb from a T4 turbo and it makes 15lbs + boost. I just popped a head gasket but thats almost to be expected at some point. I do not have a waste gate but will be installing one now. Its much harder to tune the car at 15 lbs boost than it will be at say, 8 lbs boost. with the dbl pumper carb, you can tune the primary for bottom end and crusing and the secondary for top end. Funny thing is I have # 86 jets in the primary now ( which is way huge ). The carb was jetted for a V8 with # 76 jets and I figured it would need jets in the 60s or high 50s. the wide band told me other wise with A/F reading of 16:00. NOw with the 86 jets I am reading between 11:00 and 12:00 at about 10 lbs boost.
Yeah FI would be great but a carbed turbo is not that hard to do and if you blow through it you can also innercool it. 
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Re: turbo !
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 12:01:52 AM »
If they could only make an additive to take away all the negative side effects of methanol...
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