Author Topic: 72 2.5 turbo pinto (Read 77162 times)

turbopinto72 · « **on:** May 12, 2003, 10:38:38 PM »

Here is a pic of my 72, with a 2.5 turbo motor.

Felix Wankel · « **Reply #1 on:** May 13, 2003, 06:10:49 PM »

That was one of the cars that made me want to build a turbo Pinto.

bluefordpinto · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2003, 09:26:21 PM »

looks good, but what can it do?

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 18, 2003, 09:20:02 PM »

What can it do........hmmm well other than look good Its sure fun to drive. Im sure you mean, How quick is it. well I can tell you Im not really sure becouse I have not made a "FULL" pass hooked and on the NOS. But with a tire spinning 2.1 60 and clicking it off at 3/4 track It ran a 11.8 @ 115. The car should turn a 1.6 60ft on a good track, that puts it at about a 10.8 1/4 and about 122 ish mph. Its a fun street ride

Glassman · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2003, 07:58:56 AM »

Ive had your Turbo Pinto web pages in my "Favorites" for over a year now. Fun and helpful to read. Hopefully by this time next year Ill be driving around in a turbo Pinto, too.

71pintok · « **Reply #5 on:** August 08, 2003, 04:47:27 PM »

Must go like snot!!! Very cool.

TurboPintoDude · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2003, 02:16:45 PM »

Even if it doesn't go like snot, it's the right color... LOL! Sorry about that Dude, just picking at ya. That an Esslinger head?

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2003, 03:48:46 PM »

Pick away........ Yes thats an Esslinger Midget Head with a 580x234 Roller cam.

72 sedan · « **Reply #8 on:** August 31, 2003, 10:50:34 AM »

Hey Brad. I recently bought a 72 sedan and want it to run strong. I have zero experience with turbos, so for me to do it myself, I'll just be reinventing the wheel (with MANY mistakes along the way). I have been thinking about a bolt in motor from esslinger. What's your take on this idea? BTW Your black 289 pinto would also be in my garage but I live in south Fl. and the transport fee would double the price of the car.

Brent
fourtooneq@aol.com

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 31, 2003, 11:38:13 AM »

Brent, I would love to have an Esslinger bolt in motor but their quite expencive. I think the 2.8 all Aluminum motors are about $25,000 now. BTW The Esslingers shop burned almost to the ground on Fathers Day so getting a motor would be real tough for a while. Are you thinking about an EFI system , Carb set up or what? Turbo vs non turbo w/ Nos?
Brad

72 sedan · « **Reply #10 on:** August 31, 2003, 08:45:38 PM »

Yeah, that's a little (HA) rich for my blood. Didn't you grow up with them. Ya think they could cut you a break. I want it to run like a scalded as- dog, low 10's, in to the 9's would be ideal. Streat worthy of course! Na, I'm not asking for to much lol. The turbo/nos route is appealing to me for obvious driveability reasons. Again, NO experience with either causes me to be sceptical in my ability. I have had exp w/351M-400 though (77 Ranchero) which has me lean towards the 351 V8 swap - which I understand is NOT an easy task. I've been told the 302 will bolt right in even down to the motor mounts. I just don't know if it would get the job done for what I'm looking for. As you can see it's all up in the air at this point. Please Advise $:-\$

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 31, 2003, 10:23:06 PM »

Brent, Its hard to realy advise you on what to spend your hard earned $$ on. For me, i'ts all about something that is not popular. This is a hobby and If it takes 2 Mo's to fab something thats trick, thats what I like. My 289 Is a fun car to drive and sounds great but the 2.5 is a wicked ride and is fun to talk about. The 2.0 turbo cars are all together different. something I would not do is stuff a Big block in the front, Its just my preference BUT I would stuff a 2.3 or 2.0 non turbo mechanical injected/Nos motor that spun in the high 9000 rpm's with a richman 6 speed behind it and lighten the car up to about 1900 lbs...

. Remember, Pintos and high torque dont mix real well, so a High Hp low torque motor makes them happy. just my 2c Brad

magnus · « **Reply #12 on:** August 31, 2003, 10:54:22 PM »

Anyone know a reputable shop near Philadelphia that might be able to do a transplant from a turbo Thunderbird into a Pinto?

I'm selling my 1996 Mustang GT (too expensive to upgrade to a fun level) with the idea of having a fun sleeper, and a turbo pinto sounds like just the thing.

72 sedan · « **Reply #13 on:** August 31, 2003, 11:22:08 PM »

Brad, I've always been drawn to the path less traveled as well. Just the thought of having a four that will spank all but the absolute nastiest V8's gets me all worked up, hence the interest in esslinger. The negatives of a V8 in a pinto are numerous, but it's what I know. My 72 has the original 2.0 in it now. I'm assuming you can pull more HP out of the 2.3. Is there a particular 2.3 that would work best for the non turbo mech. inj. nos set up?

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2003, 02:58:49 AM »

If I were doing it I would start with a late model ranger motor ( all aluminum). Now thats light. re-work the head with big valves port work and a BIG roller cam and adj. cam pulley. I dont know what intake system I would use but I would do a direct port Nos system. Thats a good question, I'll hafto think about that more.......... ..........

Glassman · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2003, 08:08:13 AM »

Hmmmmmm
I have a Ranger.
Would it be feasable to swap blocks with the wagon and throw the 8 sparkplug head on the iron block for the ranger?
I just thought about it and the down time would kill me. Id be better off getting another engine.

Brent have you checked out http://www.turboford.org/
?

72 sedan · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2003, 06:15:21 PM »

Brad, What are the pros/cons for this type of set up as apposed to a turbo? Is that type of 2.3 really going to carry me into the 9's provided I can get it to hook up and go staight?

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2003, 08:24:13 PM »

Brett, you would need aprox 400 hp in a car weighing 2000 lbs to turn a 9.99 1/4 mi time. As we know although, this is therory, becouse many factors then come into play. areodynamics for one is a killer in a pinto. Basicly a brick is the same as a Pinto's front end at about 100 mph and over. Then there is the hook. for every 10th you spin you loose about 2/10ths at the big end or visea versa. So If you can manage a 1.7 60ft, which would be doing good for a pinto your loosung about 6/10ths off your et becouse what you really need to run in the 9s is about a 1.4 60 ft. So now your 9.99 is + 6/10s or 10.59 and then you add in the aero . Now you need alot more HP to push the wind. My guess is about 750+ HP, of corse now you are trying to get it hooked and so on and etc. Dont get discouraged though, it,s a big task.

72 sedan · « **Reply #18 on:** September 04, 2003, 04:51:26 PM »

Hey Brad, Daunting task indead, but I know this isn't going to happen over night. I really appreciate you taking the time out to help.

72 sedan · « **Reply #19 on:** September 05, 2003, 02:39:52 PM »

Brad, Your sprayed turbo 2.5 is humpin it in to the mid 10's - have you had it on the dyno yet? Like I've said, I'm from the school of V8's where bigger is better, so is it realistic to aim for 750 HP out of a mech. inj. 2.3 non turbo? Or might it be easier to pull that much power out of a bigger motor?
Brent

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 05, 2003, 07:01:09 PM »

Brett, I had it on the dyno about 1 1/2 year ago before I modifyed the fuel/intake system. It would run lean at anything above 5000 rpm so we would shut it down at 5500 to save the motor. Best dyno with no spray was 340 Hp. Probably a few more HP in there if I had the fuel system working correctly and I could have buzed it up another 1500 rpms. Esslinger's Midget motor puts out about close to 300 hp at about 7000 rpm. Its 161 cu inch which is about 2640 cc's.
I know they can do a 3.0 L motor which is 183 cu inch so we can say about 340 hp ( not bad). Spray it and add about 100 hp now your at 440. This does fall short of the 700+ range but its probably more " usable" HP. The cost would be im guessing...... .30k ish
You could build a 440 Hp 418 ( stroked 351) for about 20 K. Again I didnt answer you question but It something to think about.

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 05, 2003, 07:04:02 PM »

What happens to a piston when a cylinder runs lean.
Take a look

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 05, 2003, 07:05:47 PM »

How to fix the lean condition. A new style lower intake manifold.

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 07, 2004, 08:05:56 PM »

Here is a Pic of the trunk.

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 07, 2004, 08:11:30 PM »

the Intake side

78pinto · « **Reply #25 on:** October 08, 2004, 10:03:01 AM »

what are you doing with the green '72? Just holding on, or are you gonna race it?

crazyhorse · « **Reply #26 on:** October 08, 2004, 10:43:28 AM »

With all that SHINEY you know it's GOTTA be quick!!

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 08, 2004, 01:18:52 PM »

Im doing a bunch to this car. The biggest thing is Im moving away from the EFI system and going to Carb it. It ought to be interesting to say the least......

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 24, 2005, 01:24:46 PM »

Well, Im starting the rebuild on the 2.5 engine. Here is a pic of the block, windage trey crank etc.

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 24, 2005, 01:29:20 PM »

As far as the head is. I replaced one exhaust valve in the #1 cyl and cleaned it up on the mill.

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