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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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71hotrodpinto

OOOOOO im tellin!!!

Hmm i guess i cant tell seeing how i dont know your wife! LOL !!
Still though I guess theres something wrong with me about dreaming of my car and not women.. HMMMMM. :wow: I think its because after being married twice, my experiance is there nothing but troubles!! LOL
Oh and about the lottery, i did win once. Big. Like a few million. But i lost the ticket and spent alot of time panicing and running around till i woke up..... I WAS PISSED....
LOL dreams. They zoop


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B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
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78pinto

thanks Dave, i know exactly what your saying....we have built 2 race cars and had to mess with the rack on both cars, one worked out well and the other....no so good!  If i do lower it, it'll only be about 1/2 an inch, just enough to clear the pan and nothing more...at this point i'm not really eager to cut into that wonderfull work of art that Milodon made. Thanks for your input!

71hotrodpinto:  I think about the car all the time...you DON'T want to know what i dream about.....usually involves winning the lottery and a group of girls in party mode... :stop:   ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Original74

Jeff,

You mentioned lowering the rack....I did that on a '74 that I put a diesel engine in in 1980. I cut out the top part of the crossmember, leaving the bottom flat part, then welded up beneath it and bolted the rack straight below where it originally was.

You are in for some real indoctrination into front end geometry. Maybe you already know it, but I didn't. My car would roll straight, but with the least amount of spring travel down, the front wheels pulled together and it barked like a dog and tripped all over itself. I trailered this car to the best front end shops in the area and they all told me with what I had done, the car would never steer again.

Like the fellow said above, I dreamed about this thing all the time. I woke up one night with an idea, sketched it out, welded it up and fixed it. Basically what I learned was that the angle and travel of the lower a-arm has to be identical to the angle of the tie rod. When I lowered my rack, I totally screwed that up. With the steering knuckle ahead of the spindle, what would happen is when the front end was pushed down, the tie rods were at the wrong angle as described above and would pull the steering knuckle in on both sides and you can imagine the rest.

That's a real brief description of my experience lowering a rack. Feel free to remove it from this post as I don't want to distract from your project thread, but I just wanted to share this with you. I wish we were close and I could draw this out for you. But then again, that was in 1980, before the internet and access to information and ideas. I am sure you have thought through all of this and know what you are doing.

Great project!

Dave
Dave Herbeck- Missing from us... He will always be with us

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71hotrodpinto

 :ih8u: :ih8u: :ih8u: :ih8u: :ih8u:

LOL Really though this is going to be awsome. I bet your dreaming about this thing every other night.
I do all the time!! ( mine that is )
One dream was that i was firing the engine and it was running fine but that the vacuum/oil gauge ???? was filling up with oil as it was running and i couldnt figure out why??.
then as i walked around the front i realized that i forgot to put water in it the radiator, Or actually i forgot to INSTALL the radiator!!!! As i looked over at the radiator on the floor leaning up against the car i freaked and woke up!!! WHEEEWWW!!!! LOL
Well im sure your not as neurotic as i am!! LOL
Good luck and i cant wait to see it running.




95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

78pinto

Dash ready for some prep work and paint.  Five gauges are for water temp, oil pressure, volts, AEM tru-boost gauge/boost controller and Innovate wideband O2 gauge. Where the heater controls were will be my switch panel (6 switches) I don't think i'll be needing a heater..... ::)
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78pinto

My very large fuel pump is in along with the filter and boost referenced regulator. Picture of the Aeromotive A1000 and a picture beside the old EFI pump (227lph) i used on the 408 stroker.  The A1000 will support 1300hp naturally aspirated (carb) and 1100hp forced air carbed.  The old pump is for sale if anybody needs a good inline EFI pump ($125 shipped with all you see) ;D
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78pinto

Ordered the MSD 6-BTM today. Total cost for redoing seats and interior panels is $1500 Canadian :o  An old street racing buddy of mine from many years ago is going to paint the car this winter, shaving the gas filler, painting door jams and interior areas that need painting including the dash. I have all my Phantom gauges and will assemble the dash when it gets beack from paint (high gloss black with clearcoat)
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78pinto

UPS guy made a stop at my house today and left me a package or two....
twin 58mm TO4E 60 trims with .68 a/r T4 turbine housings
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dirt track demon

Quote from: turbopinto72 on September 26, 2006, 09:40:21 PM
UHH, Jeff......... :wow:. are you on drugs man ??? I mean  :hypno: :hypno:

  Id say with all the money spent on shiny stuff,  He cant afford drugs.  With that much power he wouldnt need them anyway.
All i can say is WOW.  By the time you finally figure out what all you are going to do to this car, you will probably have the fastest  non-rocket powered pinto in the world.  I hope like hell I get to see this car in person someday.  Once again WOW.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

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The PINTO!!

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Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

78pinto

no i wasn't pissed....i need a bigger pan. I'll be using a high volume oil pump and i have to feed oil to both turbos......needed more capacity. Its a sweet freaking pan for sure!  I can lower the engine by about 2 inches if the rack is lowered....the lower my hood scoop is the better.  Measuring it up yesterday, i have about 5.5 inches from the carb flange on the intake to hood line and the carb and bonnet will be about 8 inches total. The hole in the firewall....i decided i want to be able to remove the tranny while keeping the engine in the car, so i'm making the trans tunnel opening larger so i can reach up in there with tools to remove the tranny bolts.
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71hotrodpinto

 I guess you wont need a Heater with that big hole in the "firewall" lol !
Gonna be a beotch on hot days though !!
Oh and Avoid the puddles at all costs!


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

71hotrodpinto

Quote from: 78pinto on September 30, 2006, 09:40:47 PM
I bought the pan and tried it....looks like i'll be lowering the steering rack by about an inch or so as the pan sits on it.  Very nice unit though!!

Hmm, well you might want to use a bump steer kit for the tie rod ends then if you plan on keeping the car "low" in the front.
The 302 Milodon unit has actually more clearance than the mustang II pan that most use.  I guess the 351 is actually fatter over the rack ??
Hope you werent pissed  :sorry:


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

78pinto

Quote from: 71hotrodpinto on August 20, 2006, 01:48:11 AM
I have the 289-302 version but here is the 351w version Copynpasted from the Milodon website.

Pan Capacity is 8 Qts. Plus Filter -
83/4" Sump Depth, 9" Sump Length, 11" Sump Width


http://www.milodon.com/main.htm

351W 30926 

Oil Pump and Pick-Up Required:

Pick-Up 18365   
Oil Pump Shaft 22560   
Oil Pan Gasket 40350   
Windage Tray 32215   
Tray Install Kit 81167   



I bought the pan and tried it....looks like i'll be lowering the steering rack by about an inch or so as the pan sits on it.  Very nice unit though!!
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78pinto

another
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78pinto

I have the block in with a set of nasty old 302 heads ready for the turbo mach-up in late October. Turbos should be here next week, carb and bonnet by the 20th of october and the headers will be ready by the 20th also. On a side note....i bought another roller 351w from a '94 full size van for $150!
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78pinto

those turbos are small Brad....don't worry...i'll show you a couple of biggins! Shiney award of the year?  Have you seen the latest pics of what is left of my car?  I should get the Darwin award for totaly dismantling a perfectly good running 408 EFI Pinto!!! :o
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turbopinto72

UHH, Jeff......... :wow:. are you on drugs man ??? I mean  :hypno: :hypno: I have to say that the Silver pinto in the picture is  :2fast4u:. Those turbos must be like T77s with a 1.80 AR and pump out about 50 PSI boost. I Quit.....I give up and I cant stand it............... ( good job Jeff, you get the Shiny award of the year)  :police:
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1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

71hotrodpinto

Quote from: 78pinto on September 25, 2006, 10:43:40 AM
my setup will put the turbos under the fenders....hidden. It'll be all tucked under a cowl hood also.  I like my big...lightweight aluminum bumpers!!

that car is a 302 putting down about 500-600hp on pump gas.

NICE!!! id kill myself with 400hp, let alone twin turbos and 600!!

Soo wheres that owner located and whats the total scoop on the construction and more pictures of that silver pinto???  :surprised:


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

78pinto

my setup will put the turbos under the fenders....hidden. It'll be all tucked under a cowl hood also.  I like my big...lightweight aluminum bumpers!!

that car is a 302 putting down about 500-600hp on pump gas.
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Srt

 ;) now if only you could get rid of those cow catcher (!) bumpers
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

71hotrodpinto

HOLLLY shizod
That thing must at least make a hundred horse!!! LOL
Talk about a tight package!!


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

78pinto

I ordered a set of twin turbo headers for it, they will be done by the 20th of October. I'm sure i'll have to tweek them a bit so i didn't order them coated, i'll do  that when i'm sure they will fit.  The turbos were ordered last week, 2 Masterpower TO4E 60 trims with .68 a/r T4 turbine housings...goo d for over 850+ horsepower. I'll be using 2 Tial 38mm wastgates and a Tial 50mm blow off valve. I bought an Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump, matching filter and 1304 boost referenced fuel pressure regulator. (for carb blow through) I'll be ordering a CSU 750 carb, (anodized red) and a polished CSU carb bonnet this week.  My gauges came in, i bought Autometer Phantoms. I'll post pictures when i start the mockup of the turbos in late October. Untill then, look at this badboy!
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