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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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FWD as in Four Wheel Drive or Found With Defects or First With Dough or Final Worldwide Destruction or Filled With Despair or Forgive With Diplomacy. 
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

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Quote from: dick1172762 on March 30, 2015, 05:06:18 PM
That's not much bigger than a 205/60/13. Is your car lowered? Mine is a low rider of sort (boy road racer). On a Pinto 3" to 3-3/4" back space will work with NO spacers and a 7" or 8" wheel. I do have the fender lip rolled front and back. Low is the way to go. FWD is for farmers.
I first viewed my 72 with 13X8 slot wheels with short slicks, and because of the offset, it had the body seams at the footwell pounded flat to clear the slicks. With 13X7 Panasports no issues, with 20X9X 13 slicks. My pinto associate in the Bay area almost convinced me to buy some 13X10 one piece Comptomotives for the back, but my racing class rules back then  limited me to 7" wide wheels (Not anymore though) He did say a panhard rod would be necessary to keep the body off the tires , depending  on the diameter and cross section.
Always a price to pay, but that's racing.. ;D

I'm not a farmer, but my Rabbit is a FWD hole hopper ;)
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dick1172762

That's not much bigger than a 205/60/13. Is your car lowered? Mine is a low rider of sort (boy road racer). On a Pinto 3" to 3-3/4" back space will work with NO spacers and a 7" or 8" wheel. I do have the fender lip rolled front and back. Low is the way to go. FWD is for farmers.
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TIGGER

My 73 has 15x8 centerlines and I am running 205-50-15's on all four corners.  I am not sure what the backspacing is.  I can go a side or two bigger in the back but not the front.
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Wittsend

If I recall correctly at the time the car was in another location and the surface required compensation (like one of the "feet" actually being a 2X6).  The other aspect is that the way I have it the "arrangement" is being forced under pressure (the spring aspect of the 2X12) into the ground rather than sitting on top.

dick1172762

Wow! McGyver would be proud to say the least. I've seen one of the changers mounted to a sheet on 3/4" plywood but the plywood goes to hell if left outdoors very long. I think your set up would be the sturdiest. Why didn't you let the 2 X 12 X 8ft rest on the ground and just drive onto it? The 2 X 4 leg would prevent any rotation of the 2 X 12 and the car weight would tie it down. One wheel sitting on it would be plenty. Thanks for the idea.
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Wittsend

My setup is kind of McGyver-ed, resembling the concept of an outrigger canoe. Basically it is a 8 foot-ish long 2X12 (the body).  I cross mounted a 4 foot-ish 2X4 (the legs). On the ends I cross mounted one foot 2X4's (the feet). What I do is jack up a car ('63 Rambler American in this case) and slide the 2X12 under the wheel, then lower it.  It can be a bit tight (to the car), and flexes a little, but is doable. When I'm done I jack the car up and slide the 2X12 under the car getting about 60% of it out of the way. I throw a drywall mud bucket over the top (notice the paint fade) to keep rain off the functional parts. Someday..., Maybe..., I'll get it mounted to concrete.

  I've done 55 series, 16" tires (daughter whose front tires never met a curb they didn't like) but that is kind of the limit. It takes some grunt and I'd highly recommend a (maybe two of the) smaller tire irons. Read reviews on the HF changer, many recommend not following the install instructions, but to use the smaller irons.  That said, the reviews are rather positive less those that try to mount huge 4X4 tires.

Also attached is a picture of my tire/wheel stash (just because I had the camera out).

dick1172762

Thanks Wittsend. Think I'll stick with my 13 X 7 wheels and 205/60/13 new Federal tires. At 80 they may outlast me. BTW what did you mount the tire changer to? Been thinking that way too.
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Wittsend

I have 215-60-13" tires on Cosmic wheels on my Sunbeam Tiger.  The tires are from the 80's (car is on J-stands15 years now). I just went to measure and realized the car is buried with the wood for my daughters Tiny House (sorry).  I have a pair of the Pinto Rallye  wheels and they measure 5" wide. And I have a 205-60-13" Sumitumo HTR 200 tire that free standing measures roughly 5" wide unseated. So, if you are going to 8" wheels, yea, they might have that Ricer look.

As far as the 13" tires go..., I drive my (three) hobby cars roughly 250 miles a year each. New tires would be a waste. While I may enjoy getting to the speed limit quickly, I'm not the type to exceed it. So, "decent" tires are good enough. In the past year this is what I have gotten:

3 Sumitumo 175-70-13" HTR 200's, new, never used.  $35 for the three from Craigslist.

2 Sumitumo 205-60-13" HTR 200's, used one about 70% good the other 50% good. $11 each from Pick A Part.

3 Federal Formoza 205-60-13", used, roughly 50% good. $30 for the three at a Mopar car show.

I'll mix and match (in pairs) if needed (Oh why oh why do I always find three tires???).  I've seen a number of places that sell new 205-60-13" on the internet, but I'm not sure they actually have/can get them. My recollection was in the $40 high to low $60 range, and no shipping cost was stated (but typically is about $10- $12 a tire at that size). For sure 13" tires are getting harder to find.

I also have two (looking for two more) 14" SPP look alike wheels. The SPP's are very expensive, but I found two look a likes on a 88 T-Bird. Even the 14" tires are getting rare, but at this point more available than the 13".  When I'm paying the prices I do, and can swap/share with the Tiger, having 3-4 complete sets is a cost effective luxury.  BTW, I have a HF tire installer and a bubble balancer. At today's prices I figure I'm saving $80-$100 with every complete set I install.  At $35 the tool paid for itself the second tire I mounted up.

dick1172762

I just wanting to get an idea of what the tire fit would look like. Would a 205/60/13 fit the rim or would it look like a ricer with 10" wide wheels and the tires stretched to fit (well sort'a fit). Hope you have better luck finding 205/60/13 tires than I did. 6 Months ago I bough the ONLY set on e-bay that was listed. Lot of them in England but not over here. 14" will be next to fall I'm sure. Just thinking of 8" wide on all 4 corners for my "boy racer". Thanks for the reply Wittsend.
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dianne

Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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Wittsend

Here is a picture of my Pinto with 225-60-15" tires. The wheels measured 8". They are from a 83-88 T-Bird (aftermarket). The back spacing is 4-1/2" to 5" depending on whether you are measuring from the estimated bead or the outside edge of the wheel.  As you can see they make the car look rather 4 wheel drive-ish as if it were a 1970's Subaru Outback.  I only used them briefly as the tires had flat spots that shook horribly at speed. I don't recall clearance issues, but for sure they were better than the 225-60-16" wheels from the Turbo Coupe (which I'll include also).  For the record I'm now running 175-70-13" but am looking towards 205-60-13".  Lastly this is with the 2.0 and the Auto. I say that knowing some are aware of the 2.3 Turbo/T-5 I now run and the added weight. There is no spring alteration.


dick1172762

Anybody on here ever run 13 X 8 or 15 X 8 wheels on all four(4) corners of their Pinto? If so, what size tires did you use? Thanks
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