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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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pinto_one

or you can fix it up like my first pinto wagon,  this was taken in 1973,  a pinto hearse ,  ,   wish I scanned all my old photos before they cracked all up, ???
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

WOW, I am soooooooooo glad I picked yellow for the car!

That looks AWESOME!!!!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

that is going to look great , here is a photo of a yellow pinto i took during Cruseing the coast last year , nice wheels on this one
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on January 31, 2015, 04:02:44 PM
Hope he took out the side windows without cutting them also, I know you still can get the windshield seal, I seen a few of the rear lift gate seals on e-bay once in while,  I found the last engine mount today, the only thing left is one front spring and the oil pump pick up, will look more tomorrow, hope the weather holds out, also I will look on my spare lift gate to see if the seal is soft enough to remove without breaking it in case you can not find a seal,   Blaine

Thanks. I hope I can find the rear window seals. He cut them up badly. That's the yellow it's going to look like.
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

Hope he took out the side windows without cutting them also, I know you still can get the windshield seal, I seen a few of the rear lift gate seals on e-bay once in while,  I found the last engine mount today, the only thing left is one front spring and the oil pump pick up, will look more tomorrow, hope the weather holds out, also I will look on my spare lift gate to see if the seal is soft enough to remove without breaking it in case you can not find a seal,   Blaine
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

This was the car the way I sent it BTW. So it was pretty close to being done.
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

These are some more pictures of the paint job being done. He's gotten it all torn down. My only problem now is that he cut out all the rubber. Is there anyway to get the rear window rubber?
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on January 30, 2015, 08:09:53 AM
All of us like watching other peoples projects come to life , so what if it takes a long time , but when it is done it is a part of you in it, my longest was a aircraft that took almost ten years to build and fly, I took my time to do it right , some say I have too many projects , but they will all get done in time  (one day) , almost finished with my wife's Bronco II , turbo Diesel engine Swap ,  Next (hope by end of summer ) pinto cruse wagon,  next year finish up my Pietenpol airplane , yep with a pinto engine for power , but keep it going Dianne , your doing a good job, I will try to dig up the last of the parts for you this weekend (got to , rain on the way ) have a great weekend , Blaine ;D

Thanks Blaine :D Yeppers. But I'm also starting up two more companies. It will be pretty cool and when we talk about tools and everything, I'm really loving it. I have a master welder coming in next Saturday and he's teaching us welding on MIG first and then on TIG and Stick. I'm all excited. You know, when I watch these guys do their work, it's really pretty cool to be honest. I want to do it also, except the greasy stuff, yeah I know and even my brother laughs at me. But the sparks - oh yeah LOL
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

All of us like watching other peoples projects come to life , so what if it takes a long time , but when it is done it is a part of you in it, my longest was a aircraft that took almost ten years to build and fly, I took my time to do it right , some say I have too many projects , but they will all get done in time  (one day) , almost finished with my wife's Bronco II , turbo Diesel engine Swap ,  Next (hope by end of summer ) pinto cruse wagon,  next year finish up my Pietenpol airplane , yep with a pinto engine for power , but keep it going Dianne , your doing a good job, I will try to dig up the last of the parts for you this weekend (got to , rain on the way ) have a great weekend , Blaine ;D
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

Quote from: dianne on January 29, 2015, 11:08:25 AM
Hey for years I watched all of you doing this stuff and I was the one drooling... LOL

I didn't mean like I am facing you. I mean I loved watching all the projects. I loved doing mine. It was close to paint and he only had to take stuff off. It's going to be in my garage most the time since I have to buy all the trimming. So it will be little by little. Having to do the seats will be expensive. So trust me it's not like a fast project.
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on January 29, 2015, 11:45:15 AM
Now I feel old , Im past sixty , as for my chair , yep the cats beat me to it,

See I think of you all as young guys LOL I even posted my picture on the meet us. I lost a lot of weight from my 2 rounds. I got carded yesterday to buy cigarettes for one of my employees LOL Anyone under 40 gets carded she said - I was smiles the rest of the day :)
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

Quote from: pintosopher on January 29, 2015, 11:27:48 AM
Hey , I'm pushing 60 too! I traded my clean 72 El Camino in when I bought the kraut car in 1984 ( Huge mistake! ,bought the gas mileage for career, career went away, the El car would've  kept appreciating). But that Pinto thing was already in my head from 78, and my previous lady had a 78 Cobra II V6 that I was flogging at the time.
Is Pintosphering like Pintosophizing?  ::)
And here we are, 35 years later, Drooling and foaming at the mouth! Where's my Rocking chair, the cat has taken it! ;D
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LOL, yeah I was Pintosphering
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

Now I feel old , Im past sixty , as for my chair , yep the cats beat me to it,
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

Pintosopher

Quote from: dianne on January 28, 2015, 08:39:59 PM
LOL no flames ahahahahaha But what do you think about the black stripes from the air dam up to the roof line and somehow fade out where the rack is. Kind of like the duality of the car and the utilitarian nature of the roof rack so I can take it on a trip with modern air and a decent ride and at the same time bring it to a show and show it off. (LOL I'm Pintosphering now LOL) I mean this is the coolest of all cars made. I mean look at the lines on the wagon, the pencil bumpers and I'm not trying to brag about my car much, but I love it!

Honestly, I look at a 396 SS Chevelle, but the Pinto is cooler. I have a rare Mustang King Cobra, I like this better, to me it's cooler. These were people's cars and not hot rods, but lots did hotrod them, but someday, trust me, people will want one as bad as you or I. What's cool is that it's ours and we have one or more. Vegas, you know how I'm holding in my puke LOL

At pushing 60, this is my car like some old lady back in the 70s driving it. You guys are driving old lady cars ahahahahahaha Yeah LOL
Hey , I'm pushing 60 too! I traded my clean 72 El Camino in when I bought the kraut car in 1984 ( Huge mistake! ,bought the gas mileage for career, career went away, the El car would've  kept appreciating). But that Pinto thing was already in my head from 78, and my previous lady had a 78 Cobra II V6 that I was flogging at the time.
Is Pintosphering like Pintosophizing?  ::)
And here we are, 35 years later, Drooling and foaming at the mouth! Where's my Rocking chair, the cat has taken it! ;D
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on January 29, 2015, 10:32:31 AM
Yes it is a cool car, and the way you have the resources to paint and swap a EFI engine with all the trimmings you are making us Drool Dianne :P

Hey for years I watched all of you doing this stuff and I was the one drooling... LOL
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

Yes it is a cool car, and the way you have the resources to paint and swap a EFI engine with all the trimmings you are making us Drool Dianne :P
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

Quote from: russosborne on January 28, 2015, 08:21:35 PM
Everybody does black with yellow flames. How about doing yellow with black flames? :o
Russ

LOL no flames ahahahahaha But what do you think about the black stripes from the air dam up to the roof line and somehow fade out where the rack is. Kind of like the duality of the car and the utilitarian nature of the roof rack so I can take it on a trip with modern air and a decent ride and at the same time bring it to a show and show it off. (LOL I'm Pintosphering now LOL) I mean this is the coolest of all cars made. I mean look at the lines on the wagon, the pencil bumpers and I'm not trying to brag about my car much, but I love it!

Honestly, I look at a 396 SS Chevelle, but the Pinto is cooler. I have a rare Mustang King Cobra, I like this better, to me it's cooler. These were people's cars and not hot rods, but lots did hotrod them, but someday, trust me, people will want one as bad as you or I. What's cool is that it's ours and we have one or more. Vegas, you know how I'm holding in my puke LOL

At pushing 60, this is my car like some old lady back in the 70s driving it. You guys are driving old lady cars ahahahahahaha Yeah LOL
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

russosborne

Everybody does black with yellow flames. How about doing yellow with black flames? :o
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on January 28, 2015, 07:56:44 PM
Looking good, that body looks straight , is the head liner in good shape also, or you going to replace it to match the seats, i
If you do the windshield has to come out for it to be done nice, change the seal then, they are known to leak there and rust the floor out,

It was pretty straight when he got it, but there was bodywork that I did on it. I think the pictures are posted here. He should have it out :) Guess he hasn't done it yet. The headliner is being replaced. I want one made to be honest, probably Yellow and Black. I'm still thinking of black stripes on the hood, I think they would look good - but I want the rack on top, so may not do good. I can always add them later, but the air dam will make a difference also I think. I know a lot of people don't like yellow, but honestly, I do :D

This car is great, no leaks and no rust on the pans :) Dave saved it and kept it well!

I honestly like this better than the King Cobra :D
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

Looking good, that body looks straight , is the head liner in good shape also, or you going to replace it to match the seats, i
If you do the windshield has to come out for it to be done nice, change the seal then, they are known to leak there and rust the floor out,
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

Here it is again. Almost, well almost, getting ready for it's yellow paint. I may have to change the name from Milo to Bumble Bee :D

Interior is being painted also in yellow.

I think I want comfy seats, but they have to be black, I was going to do the originals in yellow and black. But I'm thinking more padded seats. I guess I can have more padding put in these. But I guess my car won't be stock much longer with the EFI engine (one of my guys thinks he could pick up a turbo real cheap for it). I don't know if I need the turbo, we'll see :)

Bumble Bee, I like the name :D I call the King Cobra Spike LOL
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

Quote from: dga57 on January 26, 2015, 08:22:25 AM
So what does he know?  Those wheels are quintessential Pinto.  They're the same ones I had on my brand new '74 Runabout back in the day.  I'd keep them!

Dwayne :)

I do have the wheels on the Mustang that I can put on this one, but I really love the look of those wheels and painting the wheel yellow will certain make these look awesome!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dga57

Quote from: dianne on January 25, 2015, 06:48:56 PM

The body guy didn't like my wheels. I think these look awesome and old school. I mean not baby moons or anything, just thought it looked good myself :)

So what does he know?  Those wheels are quintessential Pinto.  They're the same ones I had on my brand new '74 Runabout back in the day.  I'd keep them!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dianne

Then the wheels on my Mustang will go on this next :) But again, I kinda like the look of the wheels now, and if I paint them yellow instead of black, they will look good also :)

I'll have to think about it. :P
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

If it is a four lug wheel yes it will, and fit mustang two also,  all fox body's with four lug will fit except SVO mustang ,  lug patten is 4 and a 1/4 inch , :o
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on January 25, 2015, 07:47:18 PM
Had those hub caps before, and with the trim rings, one more trick is to find some old farmont wheels (14") and the hub cap will fit them too, and find some 14" trim rings also, the tires for 14" are easier to find , just a little taller makes the car ride better, and might check the car you are takeing the 2.3 out of, some had the same wheels as the farmont (fox body) , so just some info for you to have , 😄 later Blaine

He used the car this came out of and put a 5.0 in his 87. He had a donor car. You're saying that Mustang wheels fit these? I have a set on my Mustang I'm replacing with lacy wheels, the ones that were original. Do I have to swap anything?
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

Had those hub caps before, and with the trim rings, one more trick is to find some old farmont wheels (14") and the hub cap will fit them too, and find some 14" trim rings also, the tires for 14" are easier to find , just a little taller makes the car ride better, and might check the car you are takeing the 2.3 out of, some had the same wheels as the farmont (fox body) , so just some info for you to have , 😄 later Blaine
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

Quote from: dga57 on January 25, 2015, 06:09:50 PM
There were lots of pictures taken of my Lincoln too.  When it was all finished, I had them printed out and then compiled a scrapbook which, even though I finally sold the car a couple of years ago, I still have. 

Dwayne :)

That's awesome, I should do that with this one. But it's here and documented :D You should have scanned and posted them on Misfits. Hopefully that will be here soon!

The body guy didn't like my wheels. I think these look awesome and old school. I mean not baby moons or anything, just thought it looked good myself :)
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dga57

There were lots of pictures taken of my Lincoln too.  When it was all finished, I had them printed out and then compiled a scrapbook which, even though I finally sold the car a couple of years ago, I still have. 


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dianne

Quote from: dga57 on January 25, 2015, 06:02:45 PM
I had a '79 Collector's Series Lincoln done professionally about ten years ago; it's an amazing process.

Dwayne :)

He promised me a lot of pictures :) So I'm gonna post a lot. But yeah, it is and I know how hard it is. It's a good trade between his shop and mine :D
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied