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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Metallic Rattling Sound

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pintoguy76

Do you have an AIR pump (smog pump) on your car still? I think they came factory with one. They make noises like that. I chased a similar noise around my F150 with a 5.0 only it made that noise at idle only. I swore it was something in the bottom end of the engine like a loose timing chain slapping the timing cover, but it turned out to be the smog pump.
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jeremysdad

Mine makes a 'metallic rattling sound' over bumps. One of the binder clip things on the rear springs (metal band) is loose. It annoys me, but rear springs aren't in the budget atm. lol

krazi

jack and handle in the spare tire area? maybe some wrenches hiding under the seats rattling against each other? I've had both of those problems before.
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krazi

muffler bearings and blinker fluid...
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74 PintoWagon

If the U-joints are original it wouldn't hurt to check them regardless..
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From_Jonah

Quote from: beaner on August 11, 2013, 06:44:53 PM
think it can be the alternator bearing going out ?

brad :)

Could be! I'll take a look.

Quote from: Pinturbo75 on August 14, 2013, 06:43:52 PM
how old are the u-joints.....

As far as I know, they're original.
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Pinturbo75

how old are the u-joints.....
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Srt

Quote from: 71HANTO on August 06, 2013, 07:12:42 PM... STAND ON EITHER side of the car and NOT IN FRONT! ...

i will second that bit of advice seeing that i have spent time in intensive care after NOT standing to the side !!!


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beaner

think it can be the alternator bearing going out ?

brad :)

Cookieboystoys

I've had this happen a couple time, similar rattle, depending on speed and torque the rattle would come and go. both times it was the heat shield around the exhaust manifold. The shield rusted around where the bolts hold to the manifold and it rattled. I also recall there is a nut/bolt combo that holds the front/rear shield together at one/two points. Unsure if this could be it but... worth a look.
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From_Jonah

Okay awesome. Hopefully and can try that out in the next couple days. In my first post I said that it was doing it when I got it but now that I think about it, I think it started later. I just can't remember when for sure. 
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71HANTO

Quote from: From_Jonah on August 06, 2013, 06:42:44 PM
Ahhh, okay. I'd not even though of the motor mounts. How would I go about checking the motor mounts? I'd think i could see where they were physically broken.
You can check them with another person. Here is the drill...have someone (you trust) start the car, put it in Drive, WITH THE BRAKES ON including the Emergency brake. Have them slowly rev the engine. STAND ON EITHER side of the car and NOT IN FRONT! The engine will want to twist to one side (can't remember which side). If the mount pulls apart, you have a bad mount.

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From_Jonah

Ahhh, okay. I'd not even though of the motor mounts. How would I go about checking the motor mounts? I'd think i could see where they were physically broken.
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71HANTO

Quote from: dga57 on August 04, 2013, 10:19:59 PM
Have you checked your exhaust system to make sure you haven't lost a hanger?
I had a Mustang that had the same sounding issue. Under load the engine would torque over enough that the exhaust pipe would contact a frame rail. A little crowbar messaging fixed the problem. You might also want to check your motor mounts. I have seen where an engine with bad motor mounts torqued over enough that the fan blade contacted the fan shoud.

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74 PintoWagon

Yeah, and start looking in an area you'd least think it would come from, probably save a bunch of time, LOL..
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From_Jonah

It's always what you never think it would be haha. And yeah. It does sounds like something loos sort. I guess I'll just have to try and go through it and find anything that might be rattling  :P
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74 PintoWagon

It's amazing how sound can travel through a vehicle.
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HOSS429

the rear seat latch rattles on both my pintos ..  when i first got the 80 pinto one of the first things i did was to fix the drivers sun visor .. the shaft had broken so i JB welded a piece of stud to hold it in place ..  after fixing a few other things so i could drive it some it developed a rattle under the dash i thought .i pulled the glove box .. the radio .. the speaker .. all the heating duct work i could reach .. tightened up the exhaust and fixed every loose thing i could shake .. still had that annoying buzz of a rattle at speed ...  i was about to the point of hiring some kid to find the noise .. i took off down the street one day with the sun glaring in my eyes ... i reach up and swing down the sun visor  ... to my surprise no more rattle ..i cant hear your video here at work .. i`ll play it at home tonite ...

dga57

This is going to sound ridiculous, but I experienced a similar sound in my '72 Squire wagon after folding the rear seat down to haul a rear bumper and then putting it back into the upright position.  Even though the latch appeared to be secure, it was allowing enough vibration to create a rattle under certain conditions.  I drove myself crazy looking around on the outside of the car (that's where it sounded like it was coming from) until I stumbled onto it!
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74 PintoWagon

Hmmm, didn't sound like pinging at all more like something's loose?, but then again my speakers are getting bad so I could be wrong?..
Art
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From_Jonah

Here's the video I made of it. It's kinda faint but I think y'all should be able to hear it well enough to know what I'm talking about.

http://youtu.be/xUitsrlUX2A
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From_Jonah

Quote from: krazi on August 05, 2013, 07:47:31 PM
check the fuel tank straps. mine came loose once.

Okay, cool. I'll give it a shot.
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krazi

check the fuel tank straps. mine came loose once.
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74 PintoWagon

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on August 05, 2013, 09:04:06 AMI changed the EGR plate gasket to rid myself of the vacuum leak I had but still haven't got the carb dialed in yet.  This thing is driving me up the wall.
If it's identical to the old one and adjusted the same it should just bolt on and go I would think?, maybe something is different inside from the old one??..
Art
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74 PintoWagon

Quote from: From_Jonah on August 05, 2013, 09:01:02 AM
OOOOH haha. Mines a manual actually so I guess that's not it. I need to get it up on a lift and see of I can find anything else that could be loose or something.
Well, guess that eliminates that theory then, LOL...
Art
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Pinto5.0

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on August 05, 2013, 08:38:23 AM
Is the jetting the same as the old carb?, sounds like it could be lean??..

I changed the EGR plate gasket to rid myself of the vacuum leak I had but still haven't got the carb dialed in yet.  This thing is driving me up the wall.
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From_Jonah

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on August 05, 2013, 08:32:19 AM
Ok guess we were, I was talking about the torque converter, LOL..

OOOOH haha. Mines a manual actually so I guess that's not it. I need to get it up on a lift and see of I can find anything else that could be loose or something.
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Quote from: Pinto5.0 on August 05, 2013, 12:52:50 AMI was thinking this as well. Mine started doing it with my new carb & backing the timing down hasn't solved it.
Is the jetting the same as the old carb?, sounds like it could be lean??..
Art
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74 PintoWagon

Quote from: tbucketjack on August 05, 2013, 12:44:45 AM
Could this be ignition pinging when under load? Check your timing and put in a little higher octane gas.
Possible, but pinging don't really sound metallic though???.
Art
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74 PintoWagon

Quote from: From_Jonah on August 04, 2013, 11:55:36 PM
Maybe we're talking about two different converters  ??? I drilled out the cor of my catalytic converter. It was clogged up.
Ok guess we were, I was talking about the torque converter, LOL..
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