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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Clydesdale80

My car should be a little more rust proof now to stand up to Iowa winters and road salt.  I just finished coating the entire underside and wheel wells with Monstaliner bed liner.  It's a DIY truck bed liner that has been shown to be as good or better than professionally applied bed liners (depending mostly on prep work).  It has become popular in offroading communities to paint entire jeeps/trucks with it.  This stuff really is tough, I plan to coat the engine bay with it as well due to how easy it cleans.  I'll post pics when I can.
Bought a 1978 hatchback to be my first car.

78_starsky

looking good and it is coming along nicely !!

Clydesdale80

I got some time this weekend and was able to test fit the new rear end and get the spring perches from the pinto rear welded on to it. 

It's a unnarrowed 8.8 from a ford explorer with 3.73 gears and limited slip.

using weights in the back of the car and a jack under the differential I checked for interference throughout the range of suspension travel.  It doesn't appear that the larger housing or the offset pinion will cause any clearance problems.  If anything I might move the parking brake cable mounts in the tunnel a little but I don't think I'll need to.
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74 PintoWagon

Quote from: Clydesdale80 on August 01, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
I'm considering painting the flat bottom half of the bumpers body color in order to simulate skinny bumpers.  What do you guys think?
I think that would be cool, it would be different that's for sure..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Clydesdale80

Quote from: Reeves1 on August 02, 2014, 05:26:07 AM
Looking good !

Now you need this: http://www.fordpinto.com/parts-resources-here-is-where-you-can-find-this-or-that/need-74-78-front-brakes/

;D

Those would be awesome but.... based on the price that they are listed for on wilwood, they are most likely outside the budget of a poor college student like myself  :(.  they are shiny though...
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Clydesdale80

I spent this summer fixing up and smoothing out the rest of the body panels. After block sanding the shell I assembled it all to test fit and primed it all again.  I'm hoping that once more block sanding and repriming will smooth out the last of the imperfections. also added a torino gt scoop to the hood after deciding how to cut a hole and mount it.







I'm currently waiting for a driveshaft so I can test fit my drive train, T-5 and explorer 8.8 rear.  In the mean time, I took tonight to tuck my bumpers in and see how they fit.  I also changed out my headlight rings for the earlier style.  For a 78 I think it looks pretty good.







I'm considering painting the flat bottom half of the bumpers body color in order to simulate skinny bumpers.  What do you guys think?
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Clydesdale80

lol, I hadn't thought about it that way  :o
Bought a 1978 hatchback to be my first car.

r4pinto

Heck, no chance of big leaves getting in there with that set up
Matt Manter
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Clydesdale80

I do ok at the welding but it looks the way it does because I was patient using the grinder followed by many thin layers of filler.  There is still smoothing that needs to be done that isn't apparent in the pictures.
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r4pinto

To be completely honest I like the look. It looks like it was supposed to be that way.  Looks like you do good weld work.
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1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Clydesdale80

thanks, that's ok about the cowl, now that it's all welded in I kind of like the little custom touch
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r4pinto

Looks like the car is coming along really nicely! Wish I knew you were looking for a cowl. The one on my 77 has a couple small dents from where the hood flew up but other than that it's not too bad.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Clydesdale80

Bought a 1978 hatchback to be my first car.

Clydesdale80

bingo! the previous owner cut out the cowl vents so they got replaced with louvers meant for a rat rod hood. it still needs a little more blending but I have the basic shape smoothed out.
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dennisofaz

Hi Clydesdale80.


It it the custom louvered cowl?


Dennis

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Clydesdale80

here are all the pics of the top side, i've been sanding most of it down to bare metal and dinging out the dents and glazing everything smooth.  there was some metal that was cut out by the previous owner and i had to replace with some non-factory sheetmetal.  I'll see if any of you can spot the slightly custom replacement metal  :-X














the floor patches blended in fairly well and you can see the main subframe connectors underneath where the front seats would be.


Let me know if anyone spots the custom bodywork and what you think of it.
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Clydesdale80

i agree about the welding the galvanized, i used a grinder to remove the coating on the edges i was welding but still did most the welding outside. I will post the rest of the pics on this thread next time i get some time.

thanks for the compliments on frame connectors, it was a slow progress as i was hesitant to just start cutting and found myself second guessing every idea i had but i think it turned out well, there was also a significant amount of cleaning up ugly edges and welds after those pics were taken. the bottom of the car looks much more natural now and the added rails don't stand out like they do in that picture. thanks again guys, i'm glad the consensus isn't that i ruined my car  :o lol
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oldkayaker

Srt, click on the photos above and it takes you to Clydesdale80's photobucket.  Photos of the top side in primer are at the front.

Clydesdale80, Thanks for the idea and research into adding rocker panel stiffing tubes during the frame connector installation.  I am sure you are aware, but in case somebody else is trying to weld galvanized steel, it puts off a bad gas so use extra ventilation if you have to weld it.  Looking forward to future progress during your next school break.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Srt

I "like"!


It looks like you're going in the right direction.  Any vehicle can be improved by a stiffer body structure.  Every part of the driving experience will be iimproved by what you have done.


How about some photos of the top side of the shell?
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Clydesdale80

I also did some body work and primed it before coming back to school, i'll post more pics later.
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Clydesdale80

wow, its been awhile since i've updated my project thread. The work is going alot slower than i was hoping but there is definitely progress. It's hard to find time to work on my car when i'm going to college over 2 hours away. Anyways, this is what i accomplished this last summer. when i left off last winter i was working on the floor and subframe connectors.



the floor pans are made of galvanized steel that is a little thicker than the original floor.  The subframe connector design was created and stress tested on a 3d modeling and simulation program and compared to several other designs. this structure tested to be the strongest of my designs while staying under 40 pounds of extra steel. the steel tubes are welded into the floor for the entire length of the connectors to help evenly distribute stress. there is also smaller tube welded along the rocker panels. the simulations i ran showed that by forming a box with the rocker panels and the main subframe connector rails, it greatly increased the structures ability to resist twisting.





the rear if the main subframe rails T into 3x1 inch tubing placed where the supports for the rear seats used to be. there tubes are notched and welded into the from leaf spring mount and the rear subframe. the other end of the tube is welded to a reinforced arch in the trans. tunnel. this completley "boxes in" the center portion of the car that previously lacked a frame.
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Clydesdale80

while I'm welding a new floor in, what do you guys recommend as far as moving the seats back a little?  I'm only 6'2'' but it's mostly legs so getting between the seat and the steering wheel is a bit awkward.
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Clydesdale80

I forgot to mention this earlier in my thread but thanks to 79Prostreet I now have an actual gas tank so I can stop using the one gallon go-kart tank. 
Bought a 1978 hatchback to be my first car.

Clydesdale80

I didn't get near as far as I had planned over break but I definitely made some progress.  I picked up an old gravity box that was falling apart in a friend's barnyard.  I took it completely apart and I'm gonna use the steel to make my new floor. 



My dad also helped me make a cradle or "tip-over jig" to make my floor work a little easier.

sorry about the lighting


I think I have a plan for the subframe connectors, I actually found some channel to use.  I should be all ready to go when i get home next. Only 3 weeks until christmas break and then I'm home for a month.
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Clydesdale80

thanks guys, I'll look at it more tomorrow but I'm thinking I might use some angle iron to connect the leaf spring mounts to the front frame.  About 50% of the floor is rusted through so I'm planning on cutting most of the floor out and just making entirely new floor pans out of the sheet steel that I have.  This should make it fairly easy to work in any extra framework that I decide to do.  One of my dad's friends said I should tub it while I have it this far apart but I'm not going to since I would prefer to be able to use the interior panels and the biggest tires I can see putting on it would be 205/60r13(biggest that will fit on my mags)  Anything else that you guys would recommend doing at this point?
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Pinturbo75

i realize my 2.3 isnt mild but i do have frame connectors and it does make a difference in the way the car handles....
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johnbigman2011

If you ever plan on going with big HP go for it while you have it tore down. There is a good right up on how to install them on here. Look in the search section.
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Clydesdale80

I'm getting ready to do quite a bit of welding and patching the floor of my car and I'm wondering if there is anything else I should be doing while I have the welder out.  Is there any reinforcing or anything else that would be beneficial? I know that they add sub-frame connectors in V8 conversions, would there be any benefit from doing this to a car with a mildly modified n/a 2.3? what do you guys think?

P.S. the car is torn down to the bare body and will eventually be repainted so this is a great time to do any beneficial modifications.
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