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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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pinto_one

Had to replace the dash on my 79 a few years ago because the owner before me made a mess trying to install a few more gauges , drilled out the rivets and got some steel pop rivets and put them in a small vise and use a small file to put the rosette look, buffed them with a wire wheel and pop them in, them I painted the whole dash to look new and installed it , looked factory
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

oldkayaker

You have been busy.  The 72 front suspension arms should be the same for both disc and drum brakes.  Your DMV may not be picky about the type of rivet for the VIN tag, suggest calling them.  A friend had his dash replaced but the repair shop forgot to transfer the VIN tag.  My friend made a plastic Dymo label VIN and it was accepted.

Edit: For the rivets try a image search on "ford vin tag rivets" using Google or Bing.  Click on image like your rivet and then click on "visit page" or "view page".  They can be expensive and out of country sourced.  Based on the lack of stores selling them, I am wondering if there is a law discouraging it.  Changed description to "rosette rivets" and found the link below.
http://parts.smartcarguide.com/rivet
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Reeves1

All shocks gone.
Loosened all ball joints, pulling coil springs today.
Pull the rack.
Rad support corner braces have been removed - will be making my own to replace (or maybe pulling the ones off of Ugly Yellow).
Front left of inner fender needs about 2" of rusted out metal replace.
Right side is good. Sand blast & new corner support.
Cut the battery tray area out. Have to pick some new metal up to weld in.

Box under windshield cowl is good. Couple small surface rust areas are fixable without removing the cowl.

Will likely cut the firewall / trans tunnel today.

One small area of the right floor pan, about where the arch of a persons right foot would rest, will be cut out today. Maybe 8" x 8".

Will measure the swing arms (drum brakes on the front) and compare to the ones on Ugly (disk brakes).
If the same : good. If not, no big deal: use the ones off of Ugly.
I have a real nice set of disk spindles ready to go.

Dash. Here is a problem. Windshield seal was badly cracked up & leaking for years. Rusty.
Along the inside bottom if a support, spot welded in. Rust behind & under it.
The dash from Ugly is in real good shape.
Wanted to just swap & swap the VIN back to stay with the car.
Made calls (lots) and found the place that can help with this.
I'll be calling to find out costs......no rush. Be a while before needed.
Special rivets - sort of hex headed.

I have a new rotisserie this car will be going on, in time. Will save me tons of time / work when the final sand blasting & sub frames are installed etc.   

dianne

Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

Reeves1


dianne

Quote from: Reeves1 on July 27, 2015, 06:17:41 AM
Over the last few days I've stripped almost everything off the car.
Moved Ugly Yellow out to the pole barn & tarp it up well. Due to my age (& money) , being a hatch back, I'll never get it going.

Blue is in the shop , next to the B2 car. Like trunk cars !

Trunk lid is good to go. Just a couple small surface rust areas to fix.

Hood will need to be split, blasted & epoxy primer. Put back together with some wet primer in the seams.

Ugly yellow????   :(

Well I love that blue on. Trunk model too! Sweet!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

Reeves1

Over the last few days I've stripped almost everything off the car.
Moved Ugly Yellow out to the pole barn & tarp it up well. Due to my age (& money) , being a hatch back, I'll never get it going.

Blue is in the shop , next to the B2 car. Like trunk cars !

Trunk lid is good to go. Just a couple small surface rust areas to fix.

Hood will need to be split, blasted & epoxy primer. Put back together with some wet primer in the seams.

Reeves1

Two intakes I bought: http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/library/Blue%2072/C90X%209424%20B?sort=3&page=1

Left click the first picture. It will come up bigger. Then use the next button (right side center of picture ?) to see the rest big.

Went through parts I have & put into bins for safe keeping.
I have most of the (new) suspension parts now.

I have a good start on the engine parts I'll need.

I have a set of 1969 closed chamber heads that will be sent out soon for (heavy) port work & big valves.

Have not decided on a solid roller cam of HYD yet.....

SFI cert on my bell for the B2 is now out dated......(I hate engine builders !), so likely use it here ? Have to see if it will work with the T-5 I have.

Reeves1

More parts slowly being collected.
Picked up a set of glass fenders.
NOS bumpers.
NOS grill with signal lenses.
4 like new windshields.

Reeves1

In for a penny , in for a pound... started collecting stuff for it.





Picked up a couple other small items as well.
The tray thingy for under the dash / on trans hump & a "sport" (?) mirror for the right side.

74 PintoWagon

The trick is to pick the right numbers, wife says she "always" picks the "right" numbers but they always refuse to pull the "right" numbers.. ;D ;D
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

russosborne

Hey, I promise I will build Dwayne, Art, and Reeves1 a garage if I win the lottery.
Now, all I need is for someone to start buying lottery tickets for me.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

dga57

Quote from: Reeves1 on August 17, 2014, 09:42:14 AM


Now to win the lottery so I can build yet another shop / storage barn  ;D



Now THAT'S a plan if ever I heard one!!!

Dwayne ;D
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Reeves1

Had some "extra" time this morning.
Pulled the fenders etc except for the hood.
Wanted to see all areas better , to get a better idea on any bad areas.
Good news, the windshield cowl will not have to be removed !
Looks 97.2 % good under it.....one day I'll have a better look with my remote view camera.

Battery tray area is the worst. Hole I can easily put my fist through.
No big deal : I can fix that.

Lots of surface rust though. It will require a 100 % sand blast to clean it up.
Not sure yet if I'll use Por15 after , or a good epoxy primer.

Now to win the lottery so I can build yet another shop / storage barn  ;D

I think even the fenders can be repaired.
Left one has a hole at the bottom and lots of surface rust areas.
Right is just surface rust issues.

Front bottom valance (?) is bent up. No big deal : gets replaced with an air dam like the white car.
The next one up (forget what it's called) is OK , except for some surface rust areas.

Splash shields are good.

Will need all foldover nuts & bolts.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Reeves1 on August 11, 2014, 07:05:38 PM
Worked......I went back 3 times ! LOL !

I love redheads. I had no choice but to look  ::)
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

Quote from: russosborne on August 11, 2014, 12:00:31 AM
I went thru all the pictures too.
Maybe this is a trick to get us all looking at the pictures? ;D
Russ

Worked......I went back 3 times ! LOL !

74 PintoWagon

Could very well be, LOL.. ;D ;D
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

russosborne

I went thru all the pictures too.
Maybe this is a trick to get us all looking at the pictures? ;D
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on August 10, 2014, 10:08:09 AM

Ditto! I went back & looked again incase I missed something myself  :o
Ditto here too.. :-\
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Reeves1 on August 10, 2014, 07:23:32 AM
Huh ?
I don't see what you are seeing.

Ditto! I went back & looked again incase I missed something myself  :o
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

Quote from: chrisf1219 on August 09, 2014, 01:51:29 PM
hi I checked out your car on photobucket and I  say good luck on your project. I don't have any energy for that much work.that said if I was looking at the redheaded woman in the red leather outfit I'm afraid I still wont get anything done expect maybe the girl!!! ;D chris

Huh ?
I don't see what you are seeing.

chrisf1219

hi I checked out your car on photobucket and I  say good luck on your project. I don't have any energy for that much work.that said if I was looking at the redheaded woman in the red leather outfit I'm afraid I still wont get anything done expect maybe the girl!!! ;D chris
77 wagon auto 2.3  wagons are the best and who knew I like flames on a pinto!!!!

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: Reeves1 on August 09, 2014, 07:27:41 AM
It's going to get crowded in my shop....
Isn't that the way it's supposed to be, been that way for me as long as I can remember and still is, lol... ;D ;D ;D
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Reeves1

It's going to get crowded in my shop....

Decided to completely strip this car , so I can really look it over in detail.
Next couple days will be spent doing this & trying to find the room to store all the parts !
Hate to take the head liner out, because it looks in perfect shape. But I know mice can get into them & want it 100% clean above it.
Will need to find a new windshield...... good luck to me on that ! LOL !

Reeves1

Looked at my two with disk brakes, and the drums ones.
That backing plate attachment area is different.
In time I'll find new spindles...no rush on that.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Reeves1 on August 06, 2014, 03:22:37 AMQuestion.....a re drum brake spindles the same as disk ones ?

Everything I've read says the spindle is the same as far as using the same bearings as a disc. The difference is how the backing plate attaches compared to the caliper bracket. I know the Wilwood kit has holes in it's caliper bracket for bolting it to the drum spindle.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

Don't scare me ! LOL !

Question.....are drum brake spindles the same as disk ones ?

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on August 05, 2014, 06:41:54 PM

Oh the times I've been brought to my knees after uttering those words LOL
I think we've all been there at one time, LOL..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Reeves1 on August 05, 2014, 05:10:29 PMI can do this !  ;D

Oh the times I've been brought to my knees after uttering those words LOL
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

I crawled around under the car a couple weeks ago. Looks better than expected.
A few areas I had first thought was too far gone are not.

I can do this !  ;D