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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Oil coming out of separator!!!

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Pangra74

I agree with the idea that you can't pump oil out the separator in 10 seconds. I just re-ringed my 2.3 in the car, and the separator hole is at least 3 inches or more above the level of the oil with the pan full. If you plugged up the entire pcv system you'd probably see the dipstick pop out first, then other seals and gaskets. Hole in the block sounds more like it. I had a 2.0 that I got running in a 73 that had a pinhole in the block that pee'd antifreeze. I tapped on the little hole and it grew to the size if a dime!

Joe
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1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

pintowagon77

I have been doing hours of research on anything this can be. The hard part is that it isn't my motor nor is it at my house... Its an hour and a half up the Oregon coast. The guy had got this block from scary ebay and for some reason the rear main cap was busted... didn't inquire if that had happened before or after unloading. Oh, I first dealt with the motor after the head, oil pan, valve cover were on. Also its a referb head.
The first time we fired up the motor and lost our first 4 quarts and $14.99 or break-in oil I thought it was the oil filter... so I tightened it. Second time, and $14.99 more, oil came out at the bottom of the oil separator. I reached down and grabbed hold of the it and could wiggle it. I then inquired if it had come on the block already and he said, "No, i pryed it off the old block." I'm not the fan or words like pry or beat when it comes to motors. Any hoo, I need to make a trip and take a look at the motor and see: it the blocks cracked, if the oil pumps bad, and how i can replace the oil separator.
Thanks a bunch, still think about it though cuz it may happen to someone some day.
Contact any time for info or parts.

oldkayaker

Some speculation.  I can not figure out a method for the engine to dump 5 quarts in 10 seconds via the crankcase vent.  If this loss rate is accurate, I suspect it is being pumped out.  The oil filter is near the crankcase oil separator and a leak at the filter may hose down the separator giving you a false sense of the source.  Suggest removing, inspecting, and replacing the oil filter.  Hopefully it is not something difficult like a stuck oil pump pressure regulator (this would cause a good filter to leak, see past cookieboy thread) or a cracked block.

A friend did a oil and filter replacement.  He did not inspect the block filter flange before installing the new filter.  The O-ring gasket from the old filter stayed attached to block and when he spun on the new filter, he had two gaskets installed.  When started, it promply pumped the oil out.  I had a similar experience when I did not get the gasket on a old canister oil filter right and it also pumped all oil out at first crank.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

71pintoracer

Yea, I would pull the separator out altogether, fill it with oil and disconnect the coil wire, even pull the plugs out and just spin it w/ the starter. no use firing the engine, you only get 10 seconds of run time that way. If it doesn't push the oil out, fire it with the separator out.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Pintosopher

Hey,
Why not veryify that the Crankcase is really vented? If it allows even a small amount of air in but won't purge through the separator, it's just a Giant air pump. It will push the oil out fast wherever it can!

My two cents..

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71pintoracer

Yea, after thinking about it, I'm not sure that excessive oil pressure would do that. Most likely that would cause seals and gaskets to blow out. There would have to be massive amounts of pressue in the crankcase to blow out that much oil in 10 seconds. I think I have to agree with 72pair, cracked block. :(
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

72pair

First thought is you are pressurizing the entire crankcase ie massive blowby. Is there a breather in the valve cover? You have to be making air pressure in the crankcase to force oil up and out. Is the oil for sure coming out the seperator? I believe there is an oil gallery down that side of the block...possible hole or crack? Let us know what you find. JT
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pintowagon77

thanks... Im thinking oil pump is the problem too.
Im still trying to figure out the best way to modify my pcv system on 2.3 motors. Any sugestions? I have found: http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php/topic,9267.msg56929.html#msg56929
But don't have ANYONE in southern Or that can tell me a single thing about: 1. a Ford, 2. a 2.3 Ford, or 3. a 2.3 Ford Pinto... It is very frustrating. Anyone who uses a 2.3 is minstock racing and dosn't have the time, it they are working on a motor its theirs.
Thanks for the advice and I think- out with the motor off with the pan and change the oil pump... and we will see. It has power steering and I hate moving those racks, so motor out
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71pintoracer

Damn! That's wild!  :o
1. the seperator is pressed in and pryed/wiggled out.
2. not sure if they are available anywhere new
3. you can't block the hole because the crankcase needs to vent. why don't you have a pcv, is this a race car? I ask because on my race engines I tap the hole and use a fitting that goes to a catch can.
4. you have a problem somewhere else. The only thing I can think of right off is the oil pump relief is stuck and you are getting like 200+ psi of oil pressure.  :P
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

pintowagon77

So i took a road trip to help install a refurbished 2.3 in a 79 wagon... Well after getting the motor started (remember on automatics to plug in the electronics to the tranny) oil came GUSHING out the oil separator. We are talking 5 quarts on the ground in 10 seconds of running.
Now here are the details to my question:
-How do you properly remove and install a oil separator
-can you still buy them
- can you block the hole on the block or use some other trick since there is no pcv vavle or anything
- and is this a problem with the oil separator it self or could a oil passage in the block had been clogged causing this.

This is a very urgent matter if anyone has important info please call 541-260-1413- Jake
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