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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Pinto Stampede

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dga57

I just LOVE good publicity!!!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Norman Bagi

Friday Ford Racing.com sent out an e-mail to its 350,000 members, mentioning the Stampede and the 40th.  For those who are not members to FordRacing.com, here is the excerpt.
Calling all Pinto Owners: Prepare for the Pinto Stampede!
Plus, You Must See the Polish Mustang Club's Cool Video!

The Pinto Car Club of America is aiming to corral Pinto owners and enthusiasts across the country for a five-day Pinto Stampede to the June 3-5 Carlisle Ford Nationals' 40th anniversary celebration of Ford's first domestically produced subcompact car. The 1,660-mile Pinto pilgrimage starts in Denver, CO, on May 29 and ends in Carlisle, PA, on June 2, with several memorable stops along the way before joining the largest Pinto display ever assembled – including coupes, hatchbacks and wagons of all vintages, plus autocross, SCCA, drag racing and other custom modified Pintos. So prep your little pony and join The Pinto Stampede. Not only can you party with fans of the popular-yet-much maligned '70s economy car (which topped 3.1 million sales from 1971-80), but you'll also be able to raise funds to benefit the "Wounded Warrior Project" for U.S. military veterans. Too cool!

Norman Bagi

My mom can!  She will be driving Louise's car from Denver and I know Louise will want to drive hers at the parade since she cannot do the Stampede. Otherwise if someone else really wnats to, she can be my co-pilot.

Pinto1600

I just signed up two cars for the parade,I might need a wingman on the second car. It's between the '71 Pinto and the '79 Bobcat. Can anybody handle a 4 speed?
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

Norman Bagi

Let's just hope that doesn't happen. Why didn't we listen "drill, baby, drill!" No one wants rain on their parade, so let's push for sunshine.  :lol:

Pangra74

Hmmmm. I just realized that because of the Libya mess that if the price of gas hits $5 per gallon by the start of the Stampede, I'm gonna spend about $500+ in gas each way......yikes.....and thats assuming about 27mpg. It'll be worth it!
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on February 18, 2011, 06:21:32 PM
Well... it looks like it's official... I bought the Carlisle show ticket... and Ruby and me will be in the parade!!! How cool is this!? ;D

   W-A-Y  COOL!!! :amazed:

     Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Well... it looks like it's official... I bought the Carlisle show ticket... and Ruby and me will be in the parade!!! How cool is this!? ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Norman Bagi

  We will be showcased in the first ever Carlisle downtown parade.  I just spoke with Carlisle events, the fee is $10 it would have been waived, but it goes to the township, not Carlisle Events.   The parade will take place on Saturday after the judging is complete so you will not loose out on a possible trophy by attending. Please go and register if you plan to attend the parade so we can reserve a key position in the parade. (near the front, possibly really near) If you have not registered for the event, please do that also. Respect the Pinto!

Norm
"Trail Boss"

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: dga57 on February 17, 2011, 01:06:02 AMShe ain't exactly pretty, but she's honest!

they don't all have to be shiney, all of mine show their life scars and none are "perfect." Some of my favorite Pinto's are the well worn drivers, they have history and love to keep them going and while shiney is good, drivers are best :D

Quote from: blupinto on February 16, 2011, 11:07:35 PM
didn't think I was going to be able to make this trip. I'm not absolutely positively sure I can even now (but I think I can!)

Becky, it's unlikely I will be able to ride with the Stampede myself, like you I have hope and will do my best but that much time away from work is an impossible task. Keep the faith, do what you can and if life get's in the way... I think we all understand, I know I sure do. I'm hoping everything works out for you, me and all that want to participate.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

dga57

Quote from: Cookieboystoys on February 16, 2011, 08:52:54 PM
It Looks Great! currently my favorite Pinto!


     Gee, Thanks!  She ain't exactly pretty, but she's honest!

     Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Brian, to be honest... when I forwarded that picture of Ruby I really didn't think I was going to be able to make this trip. I'm not absolutely positively sure I can even now (but I think I can!) so I'll try to rectify the situation in thevery near future. ;)   Thank you for the good eye!
One can never have too many Pintos!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: dga57 on February 16, 2011, 12:48:30 AM
and my Pinto don't look half bad on the Stampede Supporters page!

It Looks Great! currently my favorite Pinto!

Becky, you need to send Norm a better description for you car on the members page :D

http://www.pintostampede.com/stampedepintos/day%201%20becky.htm

Ruby deserves better (wink)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

blupinto

Well guys, I appreciate you appreciating me,  but it was a pleasure to help... but nothing huge on my part. I was glad to do it. ;D

Dwayne... SEE!? Your '72 looks great! So she has a badge of honor... ;)
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on February 15, 2011, 06:23:57 PM
AWWWW SHUCKS! lol :smile:

     My thoughts exactly!  :lol:    Seriously, when a person from Virginia and a person from California  team up just to post a picture, that is a situation born out of desperation and ingenuity!  My thanks to Becky for her help... and my Pinto don't look half bad on the Stampede Supporters page!

     Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: blupinto on February 15, 2011, 06:23:57 PM
AWWWW SHUCKS! lol :smile:

Seriously Becky, seeing what you two did to get Dwayne's support for the Stampede sent in, that gave me a warm fuzzy feeling.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

blupinto

AWWWW SHUCKS! lol :smile:
One can never have too many Pintos!

Cookieboystoys

Way To Go! Dwayne and Becky! Now that's what I call dedication and support for the Pinto Stampede! Dwayne snail-mailed a picture to Becky to have her scan it and then email to Norm to show his support for the Pinto Stampede!

I tip my hat !

see Dwayne's pinto here ~> http://www.pintostampede.com/supporters.htm

if Dwayne and Becky can work together to show the support.... it's your turn.

Support The Pinto Stampede!

Attention!! Pinto and Bobcat owners across america and beyond! Can't Join The Stampede? Own a Pinto? Just Love the Pintos? Show The Love! and Join The Supporters Today! Send an email to the Boss Pinto, include a picture of your ride, a past Pinto, your current ride, Pinto's not required, your support is all we ask so let us know you support the Pinto Stampede! and you will be added to the list of supporters.

Email the Boss Pinto if you would like to join the Pinto Stampede Supporters.

BossPinto@PintoStampede.com
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Rear Ended on February 09, 2011, 09:22:14 AM
Stampede Supporters!

anyone who wants to support us (even if in mind) send me a picture of your car and I will post it showing your car and your well wishes for our trip.

Check Out The Stampede Supporters Page!

here~~> http://www.pintostampede.com/supporters.htm

Join the supporters! FordPinto.com, Cookieboystoys .com, Carlisle Events and Ted Nugent are all supporters of the Pinto Stampede!

Show Your Support As Well, 33 other Pinto Owners,1 DangerusDug and Even a ChevyLover! Support The Pinto Stampede!

I Support The Pinto Stampede! Do You?

Send Norm ( bosspinto@pintostampede.com ) an email titled "I Support The Stampede"

Give a name to use (real or forum id works) and attach a picture to be added to the Stampede Supporters!

I want to see a 1000+ names on the list of supporters!

It's our 40th Anniversary, Let's Show The Whole World!

We Support The Pinto Stampede!
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

I know I plan to join up with Flash041, 78squirewagon and others in Wisconsin for their start on the Pinto Stampede. Flash041 has it all setup for as many Ford Pinto's as he can gather to be in a local parade on Memorial Day in Monona/Madison Wisconsin, I think he's got 5 so far if I can make it down.

My hope is to join the Stampede! to Carlisle but can't commit right now. However I will do what I can and if nothing else I hope to join the Wisconsin Pinto's, show my support and see them on their way.

Like Norm has said, show your support, even if you can not join for the whole trip, like me, show your support in any way you can. Let's show the Whole World! that every Pinto owner! supports Norm's Pinto Stampede! to celebrate the 40th Anniversary!

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Norman Bagi

Stampede supporters and tag alongs.

I had some requests from people who want to join up for a little while but cannot make the whole trip.  Of course you are welcome.
  :welcome:
Anyone who cannot drive all the way to Carlisle and find we are passing nearby, you are more than welcome to tag along for a bit or meet up with us at one of our stops along the way.  Send me a picture of your Pinto and we will make a seperate page to display your ride as well.

Also anyone who wants to support us (even if in mind) send me a picture of your car and I will post it showing your car and your well wishes for our trip.



Norman Bagi

Hotels are filling fast!!!! 

Check out the webpage update! (turn on your speakers!)
http://www.pintostampede.com

Check out the new layout for the participants! (It lists the areas Pinto's will be joining from along the way!)
http://www.pintostampede.com/Our%20Pintos.htm

The time is coming up fast, get onboard soon so we can accomodate for you.

bosspinto@pintostampede.com

STREETREBEL

Quote from: 71pintoracer on January 08, 2011, 07:39:29 AM
I have two options, so I am trying to make up my feeble mind!!  :rolleye:
I had planned all along on towing the Pinto on my car trailer. That way I would have plenty of room for all my stuff in the truck since the trunk of the Pinto is pretty much used up with the battery and nitrous bottle. I could also bring the slicks and go to the track on Friday night. But.....
I would REALLY REALLY like to DRIVE the Pinto with the stampede. So, I thought about making a bolt on trailer hitch and pulling my utility trailer. That way I would have room for my stuff and I could also bring my motorcycle and use it to run around and leave the Pinto parked. However, if I do that I wouldn't be able to go to the track Friday night. Wouldn't want to take a chance on snapping an axle or driveshaft or blowing an engine ect. ect.  ;D 
What to do, what to do....... :lost:
I know your pain my brother!
I want to race too. But I think the event will be much bigger than the race.

71pintoracer

I have two options, so I am trying to make up my feeble mind!!  :rolleye:
I had planned all along on towing the Pinto on my car trailer. That way I would have plenty of room for all my stuff in the truck since the trunk of the Pinto is pretty much used up with the battery and nitrous bottle. I could also bring the slicks and go to the track on Friday night. But.....
I would REALLY REALLY like to DRIVE the Pinto with the stampede. So, I thought about making a bolt on trailer hitch and pulling my utility trailer. That way I would have room for my stuff and I could also bring my motorcycle and use it to run around and leave the Pinto parked. However, if I do that I wouldn't be able to go to the track Friday night. Wouldn't want to take a chance on snapping an axle or driveshaft or blowing an engine ect. ect.  ;D 
What to do, what to do....... :lost:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Norman Bagi

Keep the positive thoughts and hope for the best.  We are pulling for ya! We still have some time left.

blupinto

At this point, I need every bit of help I can get. I haven't been able to put anything away since October, and I have a clutch cable that's failing, so if the dealership can help with that, then I'll be very grateful. I'm gonna put my overtime check (a rare thing these days) and most of my tax refund (I'm hoping I'll get one) in the Carlisle Fund, but right now it's scary. I still have to round up a cheap but decent petsitter for the brood here. I may not make it to St. Louis but I appreciate Pintony's offer. I would love to drool over his '72 Squire... ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Norman Bagi

I can't wait.  Get to Denver, it is all down hill from there!  :lol: 

I just heard from Pintony, he threw his hat in the ring and wanted us to know that if we need help when we arrive near St. Louis he will be there for us.  I don't have to tell you that his knowledge of Pintos and his parts wharehouse is probably better than an offering of help from a Ford dealership.  Hopefully we will not need any help and everyone will arrive and get home without incident.  But it is nice to know help is there if we need it.
Everyone sing it with me! "We got a great big convoy, movin on through the night"

142 days to go until we Stampede!

blupinto

If I can even go, I'll probably be driving at night. I don't need A/C, but it would be easier for Ruby, I would think.  Who knows, Joe... we might BOTH win!  ;D   It might be a tie!

Keep your fingers crossed... I have an appointment with Bill Drew of Drew Ford. He might be interested in sponsoring me- at least, in getting Ruby fit enough to make a cross-country sojourn. ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pangra74

So, if I towbar the car to Denver and drive the rest, does that count? Ha! I have a Focus Wagon which I think will handle pulling a Runabout with a towbar. This way I have AC from CA to Colorado! Not sure yet.
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

dga57

Quote from: Pangra74 on January 03, 2011, 03:47:07 PM
So, if I end up being the guy who drives his car the farthest from CA to Carlisle, what do I win? Another coffee mug?
Can't wait to meet everybody!!

Joe


     Driving the farthrest to get to Tulsa OK in 2008 won me a beautiful wood plaque!
     Not expecting any prize for making it to Carlisle since I'm only 3 1/2 hours away!  :lol: 
     Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.