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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Project "Brown Ghost" 72 Pinto Sedan

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dave1987

Glad to hear your windshield is replaced! I really wish I could get that far with mine, as mine has leaked for awhile now.....

If you don't get enough rain to test it, take it through a car wash and watch for leaks, then when you're done inspect the carpet for wet spots, pull up the carpet along the firewall and stick your hand between it and the floor to feel for dampness.

I find that my windshield only leaks during a downpour, never during regular rain. :(
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintogirl

Ok, got a new windshield today!!! Used silicone in and around the rubber so I should be good to go now!! I will test it for leaks the next time it rains!!  ;D The windshield is no longer the original, but at least it is nice an shiny and has lovely blue tint at the top insted of the brown tint!! Amazing how that tint changes colors over the years!!!  :o

Hubby noticed that the motor is making a tapping noise. I noticed it too, but wasn't to concerned. LOL Anyway, I now have to find a valve cover gasket because hubby wants to adjust the lifters, or what ever they are called!! LOL I will have him re time the car again too. Hopefully if all goes right, I will get that done tomorrow. THen I should be able to take the ghost shopping on Thurs.  ;D

Next thing I may do is switch the radio and speakers from the Green Machine to the Ghost. Figured the green machine is down for a while, so might as well enjoy my iPod in the Ghost!!! LOL
Kim
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I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

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discolives78

Wanna know how I fixed my defroster? It's a common problem.

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,10814.20.html

It's still holding!

Chuck


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

blupinto

I'm crossing mine too!

I'm sorry about your windshield troubles. You'd better come down and get that windshield out of the '72 in the wrecking yard in Oceanside! lol. No cracks in it yet! No, I wouldn't want my car without a windshield. THat's how critters (uninvited) move in and leave the kind of deposits you can't take to the bank!  Plus dust and moisture (even if it's sheltered) can get in. 
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Well, the rain test failed. My windshield still leaks! Sad thing is, I broke it while trying to get it back out. Hubby had it almost all back out at the top and he handed me the tool and said to be carefull, that was a mistake, because we heard crackkkkk.

We decided to go pull the windshield out of the green machine, since it is down for the count for now anyway. Got it out but I noticed that it doesn't have the tint at the top. I'm really wishing I could get the windshield out of the brown car because it has the tint, but I don't think hubby wants a bunch of Pintos with know windshields in them, besides, I will have to take the winshield back out of the ghost later down the line anyway. I need to replace the headliner in it, but don't plan on doing that till I am ready to paint. I have other Pintos I want to do first though! By that time I should have found the right replacement window!!

We went and bought some silicone and decided to stop for tonight. We will let the rubber dry good and put the winshield back in tomorrow. This time with silicone to help seal it!!!! Oh, hubby also sanded that foam stuff I mentioned in the other post, off. It was all curled up from when the kid installed it this last time. Hubby figured it would be best to get it out of there.

I'm hoping with the silicone between the window and the rubber, and silicon around the rubber and the car, it won't leak anymore!!! Crossing fingers all goes well tomorrow!

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

This morning it was nice and sunny so I decided to take the rubber for the windshield out into the sun to let it warm up a bit. I cut out the old windshield and cleaned up the dash the best I could. Somebody sprayed glue all over it trying to keep the dash pad on. I noticed the car had some type of what looked like a foam thing (now hard) going around the metal of the window frame. It was on top of the headliner. So it goes, headliner, foam, then windshield rubber. When I got to that point, I wasn't sure if I should scrape that old foam stuff off or just leave it. So we called hubby's son and he (windshield installer) said he would come over and look at it.

Well, 6 hours later, hubby and I decided to go for dinner and who shows up, the kid! LOL We tell him we'll be right back and try to explain better about the foam stuff. When we got back from dinner, he already had the windshield in and the chrome trim back on too. I'm not happy with the trim job he did, so I will take that back off and do it myself when he's not around! For some reason the way he put the trim on, it is sticking up more. You can also see more of the rubber then you could before. I'm wondering if it is because the rubber is new and doesn't sit as flat as the old windshield??? Anyway, I will try to re do it myself and see if I can get it on better. I did ask him about that foam stuff and he said that is part of what is supposed to keep it from leaking. He said that it is better to just leave it on, but if it does leak he said he would take the chrome back off and lift the molding a bit and put his windshield glue under it. He said that they actually taught him to do it that way, but he doesn't like to glue them because then you can't get them back out.

It is supposed to rain tomorrow so I will pull the Ghost back out of the garage and put the new rubber to the test!!


Now for a new problem.  The PO has a shoe string that goes threw one of the defrost vents, then comes back up threw the other one. This string is actually holding the vent up to the dash. I tried to take needle nose pliers and pull the vent back up into the tabs on the metal dash, but it will not stay up. The string has to stay there for now. I need to find out why it wont stay snug on the dash. I will tackle that when I get ready to tackle the wiper motor and it's arms under the dash!!! My Pinto seats are dry now so depending on how things go tomorrow or Monday, I may tackle that then!!

Kim
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

 ::)I'm still available ::)

THat's what's neat about Kim and Hubby: They are a team and help each other out, even when Kim corrals yet another Pinto! LOL! While I like being single there's something about having a man you love (if you're a girl) helping you out and being supportive. I would love to have a Hubby like Kim has who's maybe long-suffering (don't you have enough Pintos?)lol. but will go with me to look at another Pinto or Mustang II or whatever and help me work on it.
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Quote from: 71pintoracer on February 21, 2009, 08:33:16 AM
pintogirl, you and blupinto are two girls after the hearts of every male Pinto lover on this site!  :lol: Are you girls married? Would you like to be? LOL just kidding, we all know you are, we are just envious!! But we can dream can't we....
"Hubby, I saw a Pinto today, can we go look at it and see if it is for sale? Hubby, can we spend the weekend working on the Pintos in the garage? Hubby, wanna go cruise in the Pinto? Sorry supper is late, I was working on my Pinto! Gee I'm mad, my Pinto part didn't show up today!!  :lol: :lol:
Good nite hubby, sweet Pinto dreams!  :-*
Ahh, sweet bliss... ;D ;D ;D, you girls are classic!!  :lol: :lol:

No, we're not married..... to each other :surprised:!!!!! LOL But if we were that way we would make a perfect couple ;D!!! LOL  Seriously though, yah I'm married. My hubby helps me find the Pintos, but I don't think he is as into them as I am!! I'm haveing a hard time convincing him to trailer my Pinto to Knotts!!!!  :cheesy_n: I'll keep trying though!!  ;D

Kim
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

71pintoracer

pintogirl, you and blupinto are two girls after the hearts of every male Pinto lover on this site!  :lol: Are you girls married? Would you like to be? LOL just kidding, we all know you are, we are just envious!! But we can dream can't we....
"Hubby, I saw a Pinto today, can we go look at it and see if it is for sale? Hubby, can we spend the weekend working on the Pintos in the garage? Hubby, wanna go cruise in the Pinto? Sorry supper is late, I was working on my Pinto! Gee I'm mad, my Pinto part didn't show up today!!  :lol: :lol:
Good nite hubby, sweet Pinto dreams!  :-*
Ahh, sweet bliss... ;D ;D ;D, you girls are classic!!  :lol: :lol:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

blupinto

Darn...I can't find that trim # in my '74 brochure... CLOSE ENOUGH! lol. Cousins they are (1st cousins at least!)
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on February 20, 2009, 09:59:06 PM
Kim, on the D.S. doorjamb there's the sticker that has codes for color, trim, etc. If your color code is 5T you have the Baby's older sister (well duh you have her anyway regardless of color!) in Saddle Bronze Metallic. Medium Brown Metallic is 5H. What's your color code say?

      Yeah when fast food places have to have security guards you know times are rough!

I'm a 5H. Guess we are cousins now!! LOL

Kim
Kim
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I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

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blupinto

Kim, on the D.S. doorjamb there's the sticker that has codes for color, trim, etc. If your color code is 5T you have the Baby's older sister (well duh you have her anyway regardless of color!) in Saddle Bronze Metallic. Medium Brown Metallic is 5H. What's your color code say?

      Yeah when fast food places have to have security guards you know times are rough!
One can never have too many Pintos!

75bobcatv6

Another coat or two with some wet sanding should make it More Uniform

pintogirl

I bought some cheapy Walmart spray paint about a week ago or so. Today I decided to try covering up some of the primer on the Pinto!! I now know what it means, 'You get what you pay for"!! LOL  Although the car looks a bit better then being half gray and half white, the cheapy paint sure shows it's true color!! LOL

Here is a before,


And an after,


View from the rear! Before


After


Hubby tried to warn me about trying to paint with white rattle can spray paint! He said it would probably be better to just paint the whole car in rattle can primer then to just do the fender and door in the white. He may have been right, but I didn't want to try to mask everything off, and figured eventually I will take it to have it painted brown again! Although the white is really growing on me! LOL Can one tell by the door sticker what the original paint color was?? If not, it may go to white!! LOL

Kim

Oh, took hubby to lunch in the Pinto today!! LOL He saw me coming to pick him up and pretended he was going to run back into the building!! LOL Then he called his boss saying that if he doesn't return it's because I broght the Pinto!! LOL We made it there and back. Hubby said people were pointing!! I think the security guard at KFC (can you believe that they need security at a FF place?) took a pic with his cel phone!!! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on February 13, 2009, 06:46:23 PM
:'( Waaaaa! We're both afflicted with the same disease: Grounded Pinto Syndrome!  :'( Waaaaaaa!!! lol. Mine's apart too. :tgif:


LOL, I know it!! Mine is only minor though!! Still waiting to find out what happened to yours!!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

 :'( Waaaaa! We're both afflicted with the same disease: Grounded Pinto Syndrome!  :'( Waaaaaaa!!! lol. Mine's apart too. :tgif:
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Ok, now I'm mad!!!! >:(  I have been sitting here all day waiting for Fed Ex, which on their site said "estimated" day of delivery was today, and now I just went and checked again and they changed it to tomorrow!! >:( >:(  I know it is an estimated date, but usually Fed Ex is never off, normally they would be early if anything. Now I have to wait another day and my poor Ghost is torn apart. I was hoping to have her all back together tonight! Guess not!! LOL

Tomorrow is another day!!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Today I fought the speedometer cluster and finally got it out. Only had to make one trip up into the loft to check on how things work! LOL My donor parts are up there and I had to go check to see how the cable comes off the speedometer!!  I forgot how I did it the last time!! LOL

I finally had access to the windshield wiper switch. I fought with that for a while, and finally was able to switch it with the new switch. The good news is, I have a good spare wiper switch now!! LOL THe bad new is, it wasn't the wiper switch that was bed, it's the actual motor!!! :(

I decided that I will wait and do the motor until I get around to swapping the seats out. That way I will be able to lay down in the car and reach every thing easier! I also have to R&R the actual arms too. The driver side wiper stud (don't know what it is actually called) the thing the wiper sits on, has a bad spot. The wiper can move it but there is a blank spot, or basically I can move the wiper stud with out the other wiper moving! Boy my lack of terms is killing me today! LOL So, how hard is it to R&R the wiper arms under the dash?? I had no problem pulling the one out of my yellow pinto, LOL I had the dash out of it!! I'm thinking it is not going to be fun trying to pull that long arm out of all that wiring and such!

So now I sit in the house and wait for my headlight switch, that is supposed to be here today!! Once I get that I will go put it in and put my cluster back in!! Least my headlights should stay on, at least I hope they do!! LOL

I have to say, I love the way she runs though. I started her up gave her gas for about 30 seconds and then she runs on her own. I'm really happy with this little Pinto!!! Can't wait to get some of this minor stuff done and also get some dry days so I can drive her!!!

Kim
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

Speaking of Starbucks Here I Come, get a load of my cupholder!!! The scary part is, Kim, that the original color of this ingenious work of art was (gulp) red!!! LOL!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Tonight I had hubby take a look at the brake light switch. I had to mash on the brakes to get the brake lights to come on. We discovered that somebody installed the brake light switch wrong!! ??? How one can do that I don't know. We also discovered that the master cylinder is leaking! I called Napa and they have a rebuilt in stock so tomorrow I get to go pick that up.

I'm telling you all this to let you know that I now can not drive my Pinto tomorrow!  >:( I was planning on driving it to go shopping. Guess I will have to wait to go shopping till Friday!! LOL

Here's hoping all will go well and I will be able to drive it shopping on Friday!!

Kim
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

phils toys

The black shield is the recall kit and is held on by 2 u bolts the  clear is  the factory  shield  put on after the recall campaign
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

pintogirl

It was raining tonight and I had the Pinto parked out front of my carport so I figured I would play with the camera!!!!  ;D




I found out that just cleaning the track of the windshield wasn't good enough. I still have the leak in the same place. My hubby's kid installs windshields, so I asked him to install the rubber I bought for the Green Machine, into the Ghost. He will do it as soon as it clears up again so we can set the rubber in the sun!!! In the meantime, I will only drive it between storms!!!

I also figured out that my brake lights don't come on unless I mash on the brakes. Same as the Green Machine did. I will look at the switch tomorrow. Won't drive it till I get that fixed for sure!! No brake lights on a Pinto is a bad thing!! LOL

Kim
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

You got it!!! I wish you both could come down too. I even have a Starbucks handy!  :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on February 08, 2009, 05:01:58 PM
:P Hey Kim!!! Send Hubby down here to fix the Baby's timing belt too! lol. I might even send some San Diego water back with him! lol.

    If the other flap offered won't work there's that poor '72 that still has one. Hopefully the car's still there.  ;D

  I wish I could talk hubby into taking more then a few hours off on a weekend!!! I would love to come down/up, (directionally challenged LOL) and meet you and see your car!!!!

Ok, keep the flap in mind for me. Check to see what they want for it, I may have you get it, just so I can have a spare, or atlest to save it from the crusher for the fact, you can't get them from Ford anymore!!! Let me know how much the wrecking yard wants for it and the hardware to install it!!!

Kim
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

 :P Hey Kim!!! Send Hubby down here to fix the Baby's timing belt too! lol. I might even send some San Diego water back with him! lol.

    If the other flap offered won't work there's that poor '72 that still has one. Hopefully the car's still there.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Guess I should mention that I found a headlight switch online. I bought 2 of them since the Green Machine is needing one too!! Now all I need for the Ghost is a windshield wiper switch. I have a post about it in the general area though!!

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Quote from: dga57 on February 06, 2009, 12:43:45 AM
Hey Kim!

Look like you're making pretty good progress, considering you've had the car less than a week.  I've had mine for a year and haven't accomplished that much!  Oh course, I don't have the nice California weather either LOL!
Dwayne :smile:

Hey Dwayne,

   I have to say, we have been really lucky (if you can call it that) this year as far as weather!!! It has been sunny and warm almost all year round this year. Only bad thing is, with only maybe about a couple of weeks of rain (total for this winter, not consecutive), we may be in trouble as far as water goes this summer!! May have to drink the pool water!!! LOL Either that or San Diego may have to ship some back to us!! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA