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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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TIGGER

Check the seam sealer around the pinch welds all along the cowl.  On my crusing wagon, it had dried and flaked off.  I re-seam sealed all along there and under the fenders and my small leaks went away.
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sagesunrise

I need to take the time to check those areas. I suspect some grommets/gaskets were either never installed or installed in bad shape. Thanks for reading :) It's not a bad leak, but any leak at all sucks big time. 8)
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

Pinto5.0

If its on the firewall it could be coming in around the heater motor or hoses, steering column, wire harness grommet or cables. There's a few potential leaky spots.
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sagesunrise

I know it's been a while, but I have a leak issue. I had my pinto restored frame up in 2004. Has had a leak since. Yesterday, finally got a new windshield and gasket installed. Stopped one leak that was dripping on the passenger floorboards, even to where the dash hits the post. Now, it has a smaller leak on both sides that seems to be coming from the firewall. I am thinking it's some sort of seal that was never installed correctly, or was installed but it was already wore out when installed. Due to it leaking right out of the shop I doubt it is rusty cowl issues. Does anyone have any advice on this? If there is a seal under the dash/along the firewall somewhere, that is where I'd like to start. Thanks in advance :)

Also, I purchased my new front windshield gasket (for my '71 Pinto) off ebay from http://myworld.ebay.com/weatherstrip-specialists. Excellent quality product if anyone needs one. I paid under $100 for it and the place that installed the windshield even commented at the quality of the gasket. Hope that info helps someone keep their pinto dry.
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

BlueGoldPinto

All you need is a new windshield seal? <-------------JEALOUS!!!!! >:( ;)
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

rare cars

Hey gas fumes, lay off the Taco Bell :D! Anyhow you stinkers, I found the water leak from the posts before all the mouse stuff. It is coming in around the windshield seal, running down behind the dash etc. It puzzled me some because the back floorboards seemed even wetter ??? but it is just the slope I park it on making it puddle there. Now my side windows don't leak either!
My rare cars: '72 Pinto wagon (Pagon), 260" V-8, C4 Auto., Ice blue metallic. Plus seven other works in progress = I have a car problem!

BlueGoldPinto

Gas fumes? I can think of some funny things to say to that...
I hope you don't smoke......
I hope you don't get pulled over by a cop who smokes....
Don't sniff too long.......  ::)
Don't sniff too long THEN get pulled over by a cop who smokes.... :o
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

rare cars

Right On! Nothin' like gas fumes to make a drive more enjoyable!  :D Not.
My rare cars: '72 Pinto wagon (Pagon), 260" V-8, C4 Auto., Ice blue metallic. Plus seven other works in progress = I have a car problem!

renton481

Rarecars, it took six or seven treatments to clear my spare bedroom of the cat urine smell.  I used a concentrate, and mixed it a bit heavier than specified on the label.  It did work.

I'm glad your method worked, though.

Lately I've been wrestling with a gas smell in my Pinto.  I just had the tank fixed / sealed, and the car still smelled.  So the mechanic says, 'hey, look at your gas cap!'.  New gas cap, maybe has done the trick.

BlueGoldPinto

HaHaDTD :D Yeah, I think it smelt so bad from just sitting so long, with all the urine,crap, and a dead little mousy lying in the consul for so long, it smells freash as a summers breeze now!!!!! :-*
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

rare cars

Renton, I tried four pet cleaners and they didn't even come close to working >:(. Good news is that after following the "consumers report" method and letting the car sit for 3 weeks with the windows cracked, my wagon smells clean as outdoors. Bad news is I still need a new back seat bottom because it is still raunchy smelling ??? maybe more cleaning & time will save it too. From Troy
My rare cars: '72 Pinto wagon (Pagon), 260" V-8, C4 Auto., Ice blue metallic. Plus seven other works in progress = I have a car problem!

dirt track demon

ok, I'll bite....  Youre weird ;)
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

BlueGoldPinto

Actually, I drove around my car and then let it sit and air out and the smell is not as bad as it was originally! Call me weird, but I might just get use to it!!! ::)
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

renton481

do a google search on 'pet odor eliminator', you'll find eight to ten brands that probably work as well as the brand I used on my spare bedroom carpet.

BlueGoldPinto

Great...urine cleaner... that's something to look forward too.... :P Careful useing that spray in bedliner crap in your car, you might trap moisture in and rust your metal! :o Oh well, I just might try that stuff, what have I got to lose?...Except mabye my stomach... ;) :-X
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

rare cars

Ya, It burnt my sinus' but I was hoping not to smell ever again anyways! And guess what ammonia smells like?....cat pee! Hey maybe if I mix some bleach with this ammonia---just kidding!!! Actually I wised up & read "  How To Clean Practically Anything" by Consumer Reports & it said to get out urine  "Treat with ammonia/water mixture, rinse, followed by a mixture of vinegar and water, rinse, use a digestant(such as pepsin and amylase) if needed." Of course this was for fabrics not the metal surfaces of a pinto but it seems to be working as the smell is really faint now. I may shoot the whole inside with spray in bed liner or my last ditch effort will be fire---now that's a digestant!
My rare cars: '72 Pinto wagon (Pagon), 260" V-8, C4 Auto., Ice blue metallic. Plus seven other works in progress = I have a car problem!

renton481

re: mouse smell:  you might try using that enzymatic cleaner that's meant to clean up dog feces, cat urine, etc. from carpets.  It can be found at the pet section of a good supermarket, or at a pet store.  The stuff works.

It (the enzymes in the cleaner) eat animal, biological residue.  I had a corner of the carpet in the spare bedroom the cats got into and pee'd there.  You know how bad that stuff can get....   A few treatments of the enzyme cleaner did the trick.  You just keep using it until the smell is gone.  And it's pretty safe.  You can even mix it with regular carpet shampoo, or spray cleaner.

dirt track demon

unless the car is completely stripped and dipped in something and all new interior parts installed,  the mousy smell is forever.  it might disappear a little but on damp days you...will...be...reminded.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

BlueGoldPinto

STRAIGHT AMMONIA!!! Good god, how did you stand that? That craps smells so nasty if I don't get away from it I'll literally pass out. You keep getting a mouse smell? Thats not good knews for me, seno`r.  :o Oh well, mabye it is paranoia, or mabye you sniffed a little to much of that ammonia... ::)
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

rare cars

I guess I was lucky as they had already moved on after eating part of the bottom of the back seat, but I had to power wash all the nooks & crannies in the interior. They had stashed food & "Dropped the kids off at the pool" everywhere! It was so nasty I used 2 gallon of straight ammonia to clean it, rinsed & then 2 containers of fabreese. I swear I still keep getting a mousey smell once in a while but how could I be?  "Paranoia will destroy ya"
My rare cars: '72 Pinto wagon (Pagon), 260" V-8, C4 Auto., Ice blue metallic. Plus seven other works in progress = I have a car problem!

BlueGoldPinto

Thats Okay! ;D It just kind of confused me as to what you were talking about! Its sound like your Pinto and my Pinto could be twins! They both leak and had/have mice troubles! How did you get rid of them?
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

rare cars

I knew someone was going to call me on that as it dawned on me this morning   " duh".... this is not my old duster. I guess I should stop horsing around & actually stick my head up under there. Now that my mouse problem has been "sanitized" !
My rare cars: '72 Pinto wagon (Pagon), 260" V-8, C4 Auto., Ice blue metallic. Plus seven other works in progress = I have a car problem!

BlueGoldPinto

thanks for the tip also Renton, i still haven't even started my Pinto from winter storage yet. (I know, I know, but it's just been too darn humid and i'm not looking forward to finding dead or ALIVE mice yet... ) i still have to check that gasket i was talking about, if i can find it!.Rare Cars, since your wiper posts come in through the cowl, i'm not sure i understand you. Do you mean that water is leaking in through the wiper posts in the cowl? do the wiper posts connect to something inside the cowl and that is the source of your troubles? Where exactly did you notice the water coming in at?
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

rare cars

I read your question and it made investigate my wet carpet, but it appears to be comming in around the wiper posts in mine.
My rare cars: '72 Pinto wagon (Pagon), 260" V-8, C4 Auto., Ice blue metallic. Plus seven other works in progress = I have a car problem!

renton481

I cleaned most of the cowl on my 79 SW this weekend. 

I say "most", because I'm not sure just how much moss, etc. is left in places I can't see.  But here's what I did -- I took a long knife, stuck it through the slots on top of the cowl, and cut through the moss and leaf debris -- it was all dry.  So I cut it up as small as I could, and then took the vacuum cleaner and reversed it, blowing air out through a crevice tool, and held the crevice tool against the slots on the top of the cowling.

The air from the vac blew out a lot of the debris out through the slots, and all over the hood....  some of it bounced around inside the cowling, being pulverised....

I could see the bottom of the cowl and there's rust there, but it's not bad yet.  When I blew as much of the debris out as I could, I sprayed the bottom of the cowl with WD40 to stop whatever rust is there.

The next time I turned on the defroster it showered the inside of the car with leaf debris.

And the time after that, and then again this afternoon.....

It's not a permanent fix, but I feel a lot better about it now.

BlueGoldPinto

Hey, Thats a pretty good idea, I just hope that it doesn't clog up your vacuum! I still haven't taken off my cowl so I might try that.... By the way, for anyone who cares, I don't think that my heater core is the problem, I think it might be some firewall gasket that might be leaking. I don't see any coolent leaking out so a gasket might be the source of Niagra Falls and my mice troubles..... ;) :)
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

renton481

The cowl on mine is pretty full of needles, plant debris, etc. I'm going to try to modify a crevice tool for the vacuum cleaner and see if that can help me avoid pulling the hood from the car just to clean it.....

If it doesn't, I guess I'll have some work cut out for me, won't I.   :o

BlueGoldPinto

Hey, Thanks Buddy! That helps a lot!  ;D
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

crazyhorse

Pull the gauges the vents the heater controls the glovebox & feel inside the lower lip of the dash for about 10 10mm nuts. Remove all those & lift the pad off. Be ready to at a minimum get some real nice impressions on your arms. The metal is sharp & you've got to reach DEEP inside there. When you go to reinstall it just use as many nuts as you can comfortably reach. I've got about 6 holding my customized dash panel on.
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