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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dave1987

Well now that you have your tank cleaned out, and you will be changing your pump, you shouldn't need to change your filter nearly as often. Once every 3 months is what I do now that my tank is pretty cleaned out.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintogirl

Ohhh, ohhhh, ohhh, Can't wait to here how she does with a new fuel pump!!! Fingers crossed she purrs like a kitten, or whinnies like a pony!! LOL  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

Dave1987 mentioned earlier that the pump should be at 6-8 psi. Because mine has a high of 5 and then fades to nothing I'm getting a new pump. I can get one from Kragen for $34something. I guess I do need to buy a gross of fuel filters and invest in Fram! lol.  :tgif:
One can never have too many Pintos!

dave1987

I had to replace my fuel pump four times in in 2007. I don't know why, maybe faulty remanufactured pumps, but it wasn't a fun time replacing it every 3-5 months. I have had the current pump in there since January 08 and it is still going strong (knock on wood). It doesn't sound like your pump is bad though, and could VERY likely be the junk in the tank that was pulled through the pump. Also, change the filter when you put a new pump on.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

blupinto

I took the carburetor off this afternoon with ease and planned on taking it to Bob's Carbs (not the caloric carbs! lol.) and something told me GO NOW! So I did. He took the thing to another room and was gone for maybe a minute or so. When he came back he said the float was stuck, so he unstuck it. He pushed on the throttle and sure enough fuel shot out. No charge. I couldn't wait to try it on. The carb now works but we're back to square one. Now Baby will idle for a while and eventually will falter and stall, like when I have a load on the engine. The mechanic next door came out and we fiddled with the carb and throttle linkage. He blew air through the lines both ways and the conclusion he came to was the fuel pump has issues. He said after he put a pressure gauge on the fuel line it goes to 5 psi then drops way down when the throttle is pressed.

        That was a ramble, but what do you all think? The fuel pump looks new and the car acted this way before I replaced all the stuff mentioned earlier. Jerry and I thing maybe old varnishy gas and rampant rust flakes might be the culprit. Will the new fresh gas clean it out or is a replacement in order? Or could it be something else? This roller coaster ride will be the death of me! lol.
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

Thank you guys. I'm not so afraid to take things apart (well, sometimes... ::) I just don't want to be thought of as a boob or worse for not knowing my car parts or their functions.

     Only update: the oil and filter are changed. Baby's running status: unchanged.  :'(
My neighbor/mechanic suggested either have the carb rebuilt or if I get a rebuild kit he will attempt to fix it. I tried to call a highly recommended carb guy in town and his line was busy. I'll try tomorrow.
One can never have too many Pintos!

discolives78

I took apart my dad's drill when I was eight. By the time I was 12 I was building bikes out of spare parts and opening up clock radios to wire in bigger speakers ;D

Don't be scared to take things apart. We're all here to help!

Chuck


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

75bobcatv6

you are by no means Dumb or stupid, We all have to start out somewhere. Doesnt matter if you start workin on a car in your 70's or when you are just a wee Child. its the experience of it that counts the most. and the end result. So keep your chin up and always look at the bright side of it. even if it means you have to crank your neck really far to see it lol

blupinto

 ;D  And thank you to Mr. Fred Morgan. I also have brand new hood bumpers as of today!!! Thank you Fred!!!  :tgif: :tgif: :tgif: (Thank Goodness It's Fred!)
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

Alright alright. Now I feel bad for dumping on you guys! Sorry about that!  :surprised: Thank you for the good words. My late brother, who was a gearhead (bona fide) would be proud of me, I think. Years ago when I had my 1st Pinto (the blue one, hence my site name Blupinto) he saw me polishing the old girl's oxidated Grabber Blue coat and offered to help me fix her. Amazing in itself, since he wasn't talking to us (his family) because we weren't Church of Christ believers but he still lived with us (don't ask.) He got out of that cult long enough to catch up with us before drunken driving in Glamis took him from us. Anyway he could tear apart a car or motorcycle engine and fix its issues and did this a lot. Unfortunately he couldn't fix the '72s cracked cooling (tranny) line and the old girl had to be towed away to the Great Highway In The Sky. I still grieve.

        Anyway, Yeah I'm bummed about not having a running Pinto but the good news is, I'm narrowing her problems down. She has BRAND NEW FUEL in a CLEANED TANK and had her TIMING BELT replaced and timed properly and she sports a new WATER PUMP and HOSES. Her fuel lines are not stopped up and fuel is getting to the float bowl but not to where they can ignite. Her compression ranges between 120 and 135. Spark plugs are good and unfouled and her wires are brand new. Tomorrow I am replacing her oil and filter and putting a quart of Lucas oil treatment in the crankcase. I'll look for that Chemtool stuff tomorrow too.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Becky, I know how you are feeling!! It started with me on the green machine! I would get all excited that something went right, just to find out that something else is going wrong! Now the green machine is on the back burner, I'm dealing with the same issues with the ghost. All excited then bumbed! LOL Just think though, once we get through all these ups and downs, we'll have new cars!! LOL

Keep working on her, your doing great!!!

Kim
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

71pintoracer

Your 2.3 does have lifters. Thought you had a 2.0, that must be Kim, I keep getting you girls mixed up!  :lol:  So the additive may help, although you could still have a worn cam lobe or rocker.
Believe me, you are far from stupid! I'm impressed by the work you do on your Pinto!  :surprised:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

phils toys

Don't feel stupid  that is why we are all here  to help each other and share  ideas and accomplishments  You are doing great with you car.
phil
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
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2011,2014 pinto stampede

blupinto

Actually I have a 2.3 and there's that chance I misquoted Jerry on the lifter thing. Like I said (I think), I AM DUMB! Working on the Baby certainly has enlightened me on things like sending units and harmonic balancers but I AM DUMB!!! Still!


         Someone else endorsed the can of B-12 Chemtool. I did (VERY carefully) take the top of the carb off to see the float bowl. It wasn't that lovely yellow color but it looked like whitish or grayish flakes of something in the bottom of the bowl. That's as far as I dared go.

       I hope no one here resents a clueless bird like me trying to work on her car like a guy. I have to be independent because I don't have anybody but a handful of friends and you folks. And some of those friends don't know a Pinto from a Pontiac.  So please bear with me and keep your fingers crossed that I'll be able to bring her to Knotts next month!

P.S. I hope that last paragraph didn't put anyone's nose out of joint. It's just that sometimes I feel stupid among those who know a lifter from a tappet. Thank you.
One can never have too many Pintos!

75bobcatv6

B-12 chemtool in the can(looks like a paint can), comes with a parts soaker. i use this when i do the carb on the bobcat. they make a medium can and a large one the large is about 18 dollars but worth the money. just make sure all rubber seals are off what ever you soak to get the varnish out. or you will have leaks all over the place.

dave1987

Pinto carbs are a sinch to rebuild. Not a whole lot of parts, and it really isn't that complicated. Most rebuild kits come with instructions, and the only "hard" part is remembering where things went, and which orientation they were originally in, in the first place. Even that is easy, with the aid of a digital camera!

Not to make you worry or anything, but I would be wary about using zip ties to hold something onto the fuel pickup tube. I don't know how long plastic zip ties would hole up to something like gasoline, which is somewhat of a solvent.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

71pintoracer

 Anyway, Jerry told me to add this and it might unstick the lifter or whatever.   
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Your car does not have lifters. (2.0, right?) Most likely needs the valves adjusted, or a cam lobe and rocker are worn. I have polished a cam lobe smooth with emory cloth and replaced the worn rocker and it was quiet again!
BTW, it takes 2 special wrenches to adjust the valves, however you can get a couple of cheap wrenches (15 & 19 mm) and cut them in half and that will work. Not much room around the carb area. You also have to grind them to make them thinner so they both will fit on the adjustment nuts. You have to hold one and tighten the other so both wrenches need to be in there at the same time.
As far as your fuel problem, yea, the carb is full of junk. Get a can of carb cleaner (the kind to soak parts in, not the spray kind) and a carb kit. They are really simple carbs.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

blupinto

Had 0 luck in finding POR15 and a replacement screen, so I bought 100% cotton sheeting and used zip ties. Put the tank and other bits back together and in their places, bought 5 gallons fuel and ... Baby still doesn't run  >:(. The likely culprit now looks to be varnish in the jets. Any ideas besides rebuild time? Is that all I can do at tghis point? Note: I know NOTHING about carburetors! lol. I do know mine is a Holley 'cause it says so in the bowl; I know it's a two-barrel.

BTW, thank you for the suggestions. I hadn't seen threads about sending unit intake filters. I looked in past Your Projects and FAQs.
One can never have too many Pintos!

dave1987

Crazy Horse made a screen out of 100% cotton sheet and coat hanger wire, which he mentions in this thread:

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,876.0.html


losin sux replaced his with a 100% cotton pillowcase swath and hose clamp, mentioned here:

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,1226.0.html


I used a screen from a fuel sender I pulled out of a 78 Bobcat wagon. The sender was different but the screens are the same. They twist and pull off, and then twist and push back on. If you can find a Pinto at the junkyard with a fuel tank on it, it's worth a shot checking to see if there is a sender with a complete screen still on it.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

blupinto

We're Sisters in Pain, you and I! Our cars too!

Bless him, Jerry said sometime this weekend when I reattach the gas tank and put some fresh fuel in it he'll play with the carburetor. He too has faith that she'll run again. He's pretty sure that between the crap on the bottom of the tank and the crap that used to be useable gasoline that was also in the tank it was no wonder the Baby was going nowhere! I can't wait. Hopefully we'll be cheering for real this time.

        The rain will be here THursday or Friday, last I looked. It's the Rodeo that leaks here! (col!  :'( ) But then you haven't seen the Baby's windshield "fix"! I hope you convinced Hubby to do the Knotts thing! You'll lyao!
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on February 27, 2009, 11:30:36 PM
:lol: That's exactly what my mechanic next door said! lol. I sure hope you're both right. Cross your fingers Sunday.

P.S. Kim, you said in your Ghost thread that she has a tapping noise. So does Baby! Jerry (the mechanic) suggested I try Lucas something or other (I went to Kragen tonight and there was EVERYTHING by Lucas. Fuel additive, oil additive, oil(!), transmission additive...) Anyway, Jerry told me to add this and it might unstick the lifter or whatever.   

I bought a valve cover gasket and hubby is going to adjust the lifters this weekend!!! Then I probably won't be able to drive it till sometime next week. :( It's supposed to rain for the next 4 or so days and with my now really bad leaky windshield, I can't even go out in a light rain!!

I can't wait till I here about your actual "Maiden Voyage"!!!! You are getting a lot closer to it now!!!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

 :lol: That's exactly what my mechanic next door said! lol. I sure hope you're both right. Cross your fingers Sunday.

P.S. Kim, you said in your Ghost thread that she has a tapping noise. So does Baby! Jerry (the mechanic) suggested I try Lucas something or other (I went to Kragen tonight and there was EVERYTHING by Lucas. Fuel additive, oil additive, oil(!), transmission additive...) Anyway, Jerry told me to add this and it might unstick the lifter or whatever.   
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

All that stuff came out of your tank????? NO wonder it didn't want to run!!!! Yuck!!!!


She's going to run like a top, once you get it all back together!!!!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

I'd better correct myself on an earlier post. Most of the fuel was darkest urine-colored; the dregs was downright sewage-colored! Yuck! :P :cheesy_p: :surprised:
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

 ??? Well duh! I had a few whiffs too many of the varnish-smelling gas and acetone fumes! Here they are!  :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Wow!! That is awesome!! I'm glad things went well!!! I did a google search for "tank sealer" this is one of the links I found!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/POR-15-FUEL-TANK-SEALER-PINT-POR15_W0QQitemZ290292821671QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item290292821671&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Doesn't seem to expensive!!! I know there are alot of sealents out there! We had to do my m/c tank and we used a 2 or 3 step tank sealer kit, just can't recall the name of it. I'm sure it was more then 22.00 bucks though! LOL


Oh, I didn't see any pics???

Congrats again on the tank drop!!!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

I'm letting the tank dry for a couple days. Meanwhile, I'm wondering what you folks recommend to replace the filter on the sending unit. I'm not in any financial shape to get the tank boiled or coated inside, but are there any low-budget things I can do to slow tank deterioration?

      I am amazed that I hadn't messed up the sending unit seal. The unit itself wasn't hard to remove at all. The seal is still pliable-feeling and its surface is smooth. The groove it sat in on the tank is rust-free. I will replace all the fuel lines in that area. The old ones are pretty shot. 
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

Wow Kim... you're a day off but... you're right!  :tgif: :drunk: :laugh:

      Today was Drop The Tank Day. I feared it would be a scary deal, but it really wasn't. The straps came right off, the fuel hoses and electrical unit that attaches to the sending unit were reluctant to comply but it got done. 

Picture #1 is the fuel that was in the tank. The color resembled pee from someone who didn't drink enough water. And oooh the rust...

Picture #2 is the rust, filter pieces, etc. that came out with the acetone rinses. Rusted Flakes anyone? They're GRRRROSS!!! LOL! 

Picture #3 is the ever-lovin' sending unit. Amazingly I didn't screw that up! The float is outta here. That's moot, though... the sending unit (electrical-wise) is no bueno. My mechanic friend next door and I tested it.

I got four great compliments today on this project: one from the gas/electric meter reader, one from the mail carrier (both because of the Pinto "It's been YEARS since I saw a Pinto!), one from the neighbor directly across from me and the mechanic next door ("You amaze me.", I've got to hand it to you, it's cool to see a girl working on a car.") Those latter two mean A LOT to me. I'm so darn proud of myself!

         
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Did you get your tank dropped yet? Just wondering how it went!!!

I figured something good happened to my Pinto todsy, so it is now your turn to have  good Pinto Luck!!!!!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

dave1987

I use acetone as in the paint thinner type. Home Depot sells it in quarts and gallons. I think it's about $15 for a gallon though.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!