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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

'72 2000cc motor mods

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Pintony

Quote from: turbopinto72 on December 22, 2006, 09:37:22 PM
Yes, I got the flyer.
I guess they gave up on me as I do not buy the 2.3 parts ;D
I Sent you a PM

turbopinto72

Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintony

Quote from: turbopinto72 on December 22, 2006, 09:30:39 PM
Tony, you might want to modify the parts list. I dont think you can get a 2.0 roller for Esslinger any more.
Hey Brad,
I'll call esslinger after the new year and see...
Did you get the Esslinger sales flyer this year???

turbopinto72

Tony, you might want to modify the parts list. I dont think you can get a 2.0 roller for Esslinger any more.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintony

Hey Brad,
I made a list of parts for the Hi-Po 2.0
I put it in the faq section.
From Pintony

UltimatePinto

Ahhhh yes, so it does.
I had a set of those headers once, don't know what I ever did with them. Would love to have one of those valve covers.
I still have a set of Pinto dual cheery bomb's that I got from J.C. Whitney back in the late seventies.
Still, I'm happy with the engine I have now. I have to work on keeping the valve train properly adjusted as I've had problems in the past with the cam follower post locking nuts coming loose.
There have been several suggestions in other posts that have dealt with this issue.
I'll get it squared away one way or another.

Al

pintoracer02

read the IEC Catalog in the bric-a-brac section it says 195 horsepower at the bottom of the catalog.
Bass Ackwards

UltimatePinto

The one I have is titled, "How To Modify Ford S.O.H.C. Engines", by Fountain Press Ltd,
Fountain House
2 Gladstone Road
Kingstone upon Thames
Surrey KT1 3ND

First published 1984,  reprinted  1990 -  92 -  95 -  99. I got mine from Walsh in Florida and I think that they are still available. They show up on E-Bay from time to time. An excellent how to book in my most humble opinion.

It more than likely is the same text as yours. The porting configurations are quite extensive. I loaned the book to the shop that did the work on a head I purchased from Jerry Walsh when he was in New York.

How closely they followed Mr Vizard's advice I don't know but when I heard the jump from six to seven grand from my 2 liter, while it was on the dyno, my heart was flying. It's like it turned into a mini dragon ! ! !

It seems as though the 2000 has fallen by the wayside in comparison to the 2300's. I've pissed & moaned that I would never try to build another one because of imagined parts shortage or my just being too lazy to get off my duff and look, but I do have another cylinder head and   WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL , ya never know.

I understand that with all the right combinations, they could put out 200 HP. The biggest limitation being the valve train. Don't think I'll ever reach that goal but that's what dreams are made of.

Al

oldkayaker

I have a David Vizard book, but its ISBN number is 0-89586-365-0.  The title is "How to Hotrod Your 2.0-Liter Ford".  It was copyrighted in 1984 so it is dated but still interesting.  It shows some good detail on head porting.  This is one of the HP book series.  It is out print now, but I fond a listing for it at "http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=1-0895863650-1" for $7.98.  I have no experience with this site, so no guarantees.
Jerry J.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

UltimatePinto

I squeezed a dyno tested 161 HP out of mine. The guys at the machine shop used a book by Dave Vizard, (ISBN 0 86343 0856), as a guide to do the head work, Esslinger roller cam, flat top pistons w/valve reliefs, 9:5 compression ratio, Schoenfield headers w/3" collector, Offy 2bbl intake w/Holley 500 2bbl carb.
If you decide on the headers, you will have issues regarding the passenger motor mount as Pintony has mentioned in other posts, but nothing that can't be resolved.
The head will cost you but so won't any other if done by a machine shop. Mine said that my application is good to 7000 RPM and that it was strongest from 6000 to 7000.
Not saying that this is the way to go, just what I did.
I know the overwhelming project issue, I'm up to my neck with two at present.

Al

The Whistler

If I still had a 2000 in my 72. I would buy a Cosworth head, intake manifold  a T3 hybrid and megasquirt engine management and make some insane hp.
Turbo is a way of life

turbopinto72

Quote from: Pintony on April 19, 2006, 10:26:02 AM
bump.
Where is the list?
From Pintony

I havent had time to work on my car let alone the list.... ;D, I will still do one soon. :o
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintony

bump.
Where is the list?
From Pintony

Tercin

I would like to see that shopping list as well. tercin@sbcglobal.net
Thanks
Terry
The only Pinto I have
73 Sports Accent
Rust free California Car

Joecoolami

How goes the HiPo 2000 list? Looking forward to seeing what my options are for my humble 2000cc. If not, could you e-mail me the list at Joecoolami@hotmail.com?

patcosca

Brad, can you email the excel file?
pcosca@neo.rr.com
Thanks
Pat

turbopinto72

Sorry Guys, my Bad. I have not got that list up and running. I am trying to find a way to intergrate my Excell spread sheet file to this board but so far have not been able to do it. I need to call Scott and talk about it more. If there is no way to do it I will just need to spend ALOT of time re-working the details into a page. I will try and get some type of list up this month.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

patcosca

Where is the grocery list for the 2000cc motor mods?  I've searched the forums and can't find it.
Pat

allfordmark

With my current work load I will not even pull the head until mid to late January.  I will post any mods I plan as soon as I find out how much damage there is.  I would be open to sggestions for a cam from the group.      Thanks,  Mark
'66 Mustang
'72 Pinto
'50 F-1 1/2 ton Pick-up

1repuwannabe

Mark, Please let me know what you're doing to your head. I had 240lbs in my truck for traction and boy did it do something to my power.  I took it out and substituted a snow shovel for the time I get caught out in the snow.  It definately needs more power to the ground.

gawdzuki

Any word on the grovery list for the 2.0. Not sure if that is the direction I want to go, But it would be well worth the thought since the car already has a 2.0 in it.

allfordmark

Looks like now is a good time to begin the head work.  My Pinto started to run poorly so I ran a compression chack and found the 2 middle cylinders low and the water level low too.
So the head comes off and I am ready to do some breathing improvement for it.
'66 Mustang
'72 Pinto
'50 F-1 1/2 ton Pick-up

allfordmark

I saw the thread on the '80 but I could not gat away due to increasing work load.  We have a major equipment install during Christmas break and all is now prep prep prep. Keep your eyes open 1repuwannabe. I would like to get my engine beathing this coming summer. 

Even if the garage is full.
'66 Mustang
'72 Pinto
'50 F-1 1/2 ton Pick-up

Farmboy

  Yea Mark, you need another toy in your garage
  I do what the voices in my Pinto tell me to do




74 Pinto Wagon
71 Runabout (parts car)

1repuwannabe

AMEN Mark. Hey are you still in eastern wash?? did you see my thread on an 80 pinto runabout for 400?? drop in a batt and clutch and away you go.

allfordmark

I have been looking around and found that the heads can be made to flow better without welding and reporting.  The 175 hp may be at the upper limit but there is a lot of room between that and the 80 little ponies that I currently squeeze out.  Please get the info out for us that would like to work with the lowly 2.0's.  Thanks, Mark
'66 Mustang
'72 Pinto
'50 F-1 1/2 ton Pick-up

1repuwannabe

any progress with the list?? I looked in the FAQ section and saw nothing.  I have a 2.0 in my truck (new truck) and would like to see a little more than 80hp.

turbopinto72

 Jim has a 72 Pinto with a 2.0 in it. I didnt think he wanted to go through the trouble of installing new,relocated motor mounts and install a 2.3 ( hence the topic, 2000cc motor mods). Im sure we could do whole topic on how to hop up the 2.3 N/A motor and make over 300 Hp.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

dick1172762

2.3L is the way to go for one big reason. You can buy any kind of speed equiptment for it that you want. Most of the 2.0L stuff I see now comes from the UK. You can get HP readings out of a 2.3L that people only dream of from a 2.0L Go to a mini-stock race and you will see where all the Pintos have gone. You will see 20 2.3L's for ever 2.0L you see.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

turbopinto72

 Sounds like a challange to me........ ;D. But any way, A goal is a great thing to have. It allows people who are trying to help with the goal make disisions with the goal in mind.Yes 175 Hp is a Big number on a N/A 2.0. However,  ;) with the correct combo and head work I think one could come close. I think Jim should have a goal in mind that is ( or might be) just out side the realm of what He ( we ) could do. Jesse James has this way of thinking, look what He accomplished.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto