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Shiny is Good! => Your Project => Topic started by: turbopinto72 on May 05, 2003, 06:42:14 PM

Title: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on May 05, 2003, 06:42:14 PM
Here is a pic of the Motor I just installed in my Pangra. I am currently writing up a spec sheet on it. The SVO T5 was installed as well as the Aluminum driveshaft. See my web page in the personal web page section for details
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Post by: Scott Hamilton on May 05, 2003, 08:10:47 PM
WOW!

I only wish I do that to my 72!
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Post by: SVOwagon on May 05, 2003, 11:01:26 PM
That looks great!!  :o Much nicer then mine. Here is a pic of what I've got going on.
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Post by: chris and don on May 06, 2003, 08:31:11 PM
Oh so cool, lots of work in there. Just a question, Did you have to make new motor mounts or find some from other vehicle? thanks
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Post by: turbopinto72 on May 12, 2003, 10:41:33 PM
Its a 2.0 motor so the moter mounts are the same. Here is a side view. Note, thats a T5 trans out of a 84 SVO ;D
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Post by: Felix Wankel on May 14, 2003, 01:06:48 AM
Is that paint or powdercoat?
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Post by: turbopinto72 on May 14, 2003, 01:08:30 PM
that is paint. Its a custom color by Sherman Williams. Its got a base coat, 3 color coats and 3 coats of clear.
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Post by: pintoautocrosser on June 16, 2003, 06:57:31 AM
Hey Brad, what bell housing are you using for the T-5?  Is it the later hydraulic clutch ones or the earlier cable or even the T-4 bellhousing that Bugsturbo has mentioned?  I'm doing this swap soon as my T-5  came out of an 87 T-coupe(have hydraulic clutch bell housing).  A picture of the other side would do wonders for me.  How did you switch to the 10 spline?  Was it just a disk swap or did you have to change the pressure plate as well?
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 16, 2003, 06:48:42 PM
Paul, The bellhousing is a 1984 SVO bell with the cable type pull for the throughout. As for the 10 spline  you will need a 10 spline clutch disc thats fits you flywheel and pressure plate and thats it. The T5 is a 10 spline. I dont know if this pic helps but here is the drivers side.
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Post by: ChrisMiddleton on June 16, 2003, 07:03:18 PM
Hella nice!! good work
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Post by: Glassman on June 16, 2003, 09:19:56 PM
Thats real nice.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 21, 2003, 06:41:18 PM
Here are 2 new pics of the Turbo and carb set up.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 21, 2003, 06:42:01 PM
Here is the side view
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 27, 2003, 09:03:43 PM
Here is a look at the oil cooler and fuel filter\regulator. I dont have the bracketry as I like it yet but its a start.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on July 07, 2003, 04:38:12 PM
New Picture of the Radiator and oil cooler as of 7/5/03. I will be building a shroud for the top in polished Aluminum
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Post by: turbopinto72 on July 07, 2003, 04:39:19 PM
This just showes the oil cooler lines and remote mounted oil filter.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 17, 2003, 09:18:52 PM
Ok guys I think I found the perfect wheel for this Pangra. what do you think
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Post by: TurboPintoDude on September 30, 2003, 10:58:11 PM
Just an idea Brad, but throw a lil color between the spokes... Might look nice... I can tell ya got more money and time to spend on yer car than I do mine, I thank I did good if it runs and none of the wires smoke... LMAO!  
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Post by: 78pinto on October 01, 2003, 12:06:07 AM
Hey Brad, what turbo is that?  T3 or T4 .....or maybe even T3T4 hybred?  What are the A/R numbers on it do you know? I'm kinda into turbos a bit.
Title: Re:73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on October 01, 2003, 09:33:42 PM
 The turbo is a T4 with a .69 AR and an "N" turbine wheel. Its probably not the " best" turbo for this combo but it works well.
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Post by: 78pinto on October 02, 2003, 12:34:02 AM
the  hot side A/R sounds good....but it really depends on what the compressor side is ;D   A full T4 is a fairly large turbo for a 2.0 liter engine....but obviously Miller knew what he was doing! I was going to do a full boggie 2.3 in mine, Essliger head, stainless header and a T3T4 hybred with a stage III .63 hot side and a T04 "E" 50 trim compressor......a set up good for over 400 hp   But i changed my mind, then i was going to twin turbo my 351, bought two T3's rebuilt them and changed my mind again.....decided a N/A 351 with EFI would be easiest and best. Here is a pic of the turbos
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Post by: turbopinto72 on October 02, 2003, 10:17:36 AM
 Jeff, I agree this T4 would not be my first choice of turbo's from the selection "today" to choose from. One of the nice things about the T4 exhaust housing is that its a center flange housing and allows the whole turbo to hang lower off the manifold than a T3 exhaust housing would ( which is an offset and raises the whole turbo "up", off the manifold). The T3/T4 stage III is what I use on my 2.5 Aluminum head motor in the Green Pinto, However, If I was doing it again I would opt for a T66 ballberring turbo which has a better compressor map for my motor than the T3/T4.
Title: Re:73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 16, 2003, 09:55:52 PM
 There were a few guys asking how I adapted the T5 to the 2L block. Here is a pic of the adaption. I used studs in the bell and notched it low for a bolt into the block.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on November 16, 2003, 09:57:36 PM
 Here is another view
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Post by: 78pinto on November 17, 2003, 07:36:08 PM
Nice work Brad!  Did you come up with that, or is it a common 2.0 trick?
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Post by: turbopinto72 on November 17, 2003, 08:35:56 PM
 I dont know if any one else does this but this was my idea of how it should work.
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Post by: streethorse on December 16, 2003, 10:22:08 AM
seriously wicked lil horse. hope my lil horse comes out that nice.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on December 16, 2003, 05:41:01 PM
 Thanks, I think It will do well on the street ;D
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Post by: turbopinto72 on January 02, 2004, 05:00:18 PM
 Here is the shroud I just made to cover the top of the radiator.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on January 02, 2004, 05:01:10 PM
front view. I still need to weld up the 2 seams.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on January 02, 2004, 05:05:52 PM
 This is where the NOS solenoids are mounted. This is the bottom of the carb plenum. Cant see them from up top.
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Post by: 78pinto on January 02, 2004, 05:26:49 PM
oh your sneaky!  I like that!
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 04, 2004, 08:58:09 PM
Here are a few of the most recent pics of the motor.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 04, 2004, 08:59:25 PM
The front shot. I have some detail shots that will show some of the different fab parts.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 04, 2004, 09:01:04 PM
This is the throttle cable/bell crank. I use a portion of the stock unit attached to a bell crank and a Lokar 24 inch cable to the carb
Title: Re:73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on February 04, 2004, 09:02:22 PM
For the breather tank I shortened up a standard Summit breather
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 04, 2004, 09:03:34 PM
I extended the clutch cable bracket to add more length to the cable for the 5 speed bell.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 04, 2004, 09:04:26 PM
Here is the crossover tube that I will later paint the color of the motor.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 04, 2004, 09:06:10 PM
I routed the heater hose down so it would not crowed the top of the motor and built a heat shield for it, ( the 3" exhaust down pipe im sure will get a little hot)
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 04, 2004, 09:06:45 PM
a shot of the fans
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Post by: pintojoe on February 05, 2004, 03:18:32 PM
Looks good to see a 2000cc live on with some boost. Here's a picture of my old 72 that I turboed back in 1985. As often said, wish I still had that car!
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Post by: 78pinto on February 05, 2004, 06:20:55 PM
looks great Brad......LOVE the shiney! ;)
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Post by: crazyhorse on February 06, 2004, 12:48:19 AM
SIGH i guess now that tennessee FINALLY has a lottery I MIGHT be able to do that to my '74

Till then i'll just begreen with envy  :'(
Title: Re:73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on February 07, 2004, 08:37:28 PM
 Jeff, shiney= good   ;)
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Post by: turbopinto72 on April 06, 2004, 09:54:56 PM
Here Is Tony, the guy who is writing a book on ford cars. He spent about 3 hrs at my house taking pictures for the book. Mainly he took pictures of the Red Pangra but he also took a bunch of pics of all my other ( stuff)
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Post by: pinto_351 on April 06, 2004, 11:39:14 PM
brad # 1 i need a hatch like the one you have in the pic on your green car.  know where i can find one?  Do you have one?  

Thanks
Brad #2
Title: Re:73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 07, 2004, 10:19:38 PM
 I will keep my eye out of one.
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Post by: pinto_351 on April 08, 2004, 12:04:28 AM
thanks
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Post by: 78pinto on June 05, 2004, 02:22:14 PM
no updates lately bro......still working on it?
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 05, 2004, 06:07:14 PM
 Today I was working on the rear suspension. Got the leaf springs all apart and cleaning them up. Im going to add one leaf ( 1/2 leaf) to the front side of the spring and clamp it up for an anti spring wrap deal. I ordered my shackle kit ( rear shackle and front eye) from Prothane ( kit # 6-1051), my rear sway bar brackets and end link ( also Prothane). I also bought from Ebay ( I hope this guy does not flake cuz I payed with Paypal) a PowerTrax No-Slip posi unit. I say that becouse I payed on Thursday and still have not heard from the guy ??? After I get the suspension installed and the rearend in, I can build my fuel cell/NOS/battery box unit that will be recessed into the floor of the trunk ( leaving enough space for the 3" exhaust, I hope :o
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Post by: 78pinto on June 05, 2004, 11:32:08 PM
GO BRAD GO............GO BRAD GO!
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 06, 2004, 12:01:00 PM
 ;D
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 06, 2004, 10:24:22 PM
 Here Is a pic of the spring package. As you can see the spring size gets smaller from the main leaf down to the smallest that sits on the perch. The leaf in the foreground is the extra leaf I am adding. As you can see by lineing up the center hole of them all, the 1/2 Leaf is forward of center and on top of the main leaf.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 06, 2004, 10:25:35 PM
 This Pic shows the order the springs will go in.
More info to come as I get them together.
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Post by: 78pinto on June 06, 2004, 11:01:08 PM
where did you get them from brad? How much $$
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 07, 2004, 06:39:09 PM
 Here is the cool part. I made them. YES ITS HARD TO CUT A SPRING.....However It can be done with about 4 sawsall blades and a can of WD40 per cut. I used the second leaf from a spair leaf package I had and was able to get both pieces out of it.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 08, 2004, 09:13:08 PM
 Here is the spring package together ( dont worry Jeff I will be painting the clamps shiney black) I left the clamps un-painted so you can see them. This is how the spring looks with the extra leaf.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 08, 2004, 09:13:50 PM
 Here is a closer pic of the extra spring and clamp.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 20, 2004, 04:20:12 PM
 Next was the spring/shackle kit. I ordered a kit for a 67/68 mustang from summit part # PTP-6-1051. This is a Prothane urethane kit. The dimentions were correct except the OD on the small side ( shackle end). I did a quick mod on that and it all works. Here are some pic's ( some not verry good) of the install.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 20, 2004, 04:20:39 PM
 The Big end.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 20, 2004, 04:22:02 PM
 size difference, The kit comes with a 1.390 and you will need to turn it down to a 1.02 ish size.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 20, 2004, 04:23:20 PM
 here is how I did it. I chucked the bushing up in my cordless like so.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 20, 2004, 04:24:10 PM
 And then ran it at a 90 deg on my sanding center.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 20, 2004, 04:24:42 PM
 the final product.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 20, 2004, 04:25:34 PM
 you will need to put a slite chamfer on the end also. A before and after look.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 20, 2004, 04:26:09 PM
 The bushing installed.
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Post by: Glassman on June 21, 2004, 08:26:59 PM
Cool

That bushing doesnt look too shiney after you deglazed it on the sander. ::) :P

















:-*
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 22, 2004, 06:24:02 PM
 Yeah, but I dont feel too bad becouse I saw pic's of the under side of Jeffs car and it has ( shh, rust) :o
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Post by: 78pinto on June 22, 2004, 08:46:22 PM
well yea.....its a Canadian car....eh..
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 24, 2004, 07:51:35 PM
The 8 inch is installed. Here are a few pictures of the install. I have not painted everything ( shiney) yet becouse I wanted you to see the different parts. By the way, the pinion angle  is NOT yet set correctly. I will have that corrected next and show you what I did.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 24, 2004, 07:53:09 PM
 Here is the mounting section. as you can see, there is a lot of stuff on there. I have the 1 inch lowering block, pinion angle wedge and extra spring added to the mix.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 24, 2004, 07:54:43 PM
 here is the shackle installed with the new urethane bushings.
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Post by: losin sux on June 24, 2004, 10:51:58 PM
Is that one of those nice light weight aluminium drive shafts I see in one of the pics?   It is something SHINEY whatever it is!
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Post by: turbopinto72 on June 25, 2004, 12:08:35 AM
 Yes It is a shiney Aluminum Driveshaft.
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Post by: 1repuwannabe on July 01, 2004, 03:13:15 PM
pinto joe where?how did you make or get youro turbo setup???   i didn't know that i could turbo my 2.0... any pointers???
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Post by: turbopinto72 on August 17, 2004, 07:24:03 PM
I've been working on my fuel cell area of the trunk. Here are a few pictures of the lowered cage I bult to house the fuel sump, battery and NOS. Its not shiney yet but it will be soon.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on August 17, 2004, 07:24:52 PM
Another view.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on August 17, 2004, 07:26:05 PM
And the view from the bottom. I will post next with the fuel system installed and Al. skin installed.
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Post by: bricker4864 on August 17, 2004, 09:37:36 PM
Did you do all the welding on the aluminum? They sure look like some damn fine welds if I don't say so myself! :o
How thick is it?
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Post by: Glassman on August 20, 2004, 11:38:58 AM
I ended up cutting the wheel well right out of mine and bought some 1"x1" steel to make a frame like yours. Too bad I didnt have enough time to start welding it up.

The pics are going to help me. Thanks.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on August 20, 2004, 08:49:22 PM
Pete, here is a picture of the cage out of the car and painted. It is 5 3/4 deep which puts the dropped area of the tank just at bottom of rear vallance level.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on August 20, 2004, 08:51:14 PM
Here is a pic of the fuel pumps and lines. The left pump is for the Engine and the right pump is for the NOS.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on August 20, 2004, 08:51:54 PM
 A little closer look.
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Post by: Glassman on August 22, 2004, 03:12:25 PM
Thanks for the pics they are helping out a lot. At first I didnt realize you had a "floor" in in the frame. I think Ill do the same. I was planning a removeable frame also. Im still planning on swapping everything into a better body in the future.

Dont tell my wife, but, Ive been looking in the classifieds for another Pinto. Im really using a lot of will power to keep from buying one. Im going to keep with a wagon and thats making it a little easier to handle.
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Post by: Glassman on August 22, 2004, 03:18:49 PM
Quote from: bricker4864 on August 17, 2004, 09:37:36 PM
Did you do all the welding on the aluminum? They sure look like some damn fine welds if I don't say so myself! :o
How thick is it?

Im pretty sure Brad bought the cell from Summit.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on August 23, 2004, 07:53:30 PM
Yes, thanks for reminding to post. The tank Is a Summit 15 Gal tank with foam and a sender.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on August 31, 2004, 07:16:01 PM
Here are a few of the latest pic's of the trunk area. I hope Jeff thinks it's shiney enough. BTW, yes the battery is under that Billit lid.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on August 31, 2004, 07:17:01 PM
Oh I forgot to say that is not polished up yet........ :P
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Post by: 78pinto on August 31, 2004, 10:32:47 PM
i'm searching through my parts cataloge right now, looking for something new and shiney......so i can keep up with the you!
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Post by: bricker4864 on August 31, 2004, 11:34:30 PM
That is by far the shiniest trunk I have ever see. I don't know if you should polish it; you won't be able to see anything. Get out the welding helmet!

Jeff- I think you are going to have to buy multiple parts to equal the shiney factor here.
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Post by: Glassman on September 06, 2004, 12:49:53 PM
My eyes! 8)
Looking great.
Jeff.
How about  a chrome headliner?  ;D

I cant stand seeing my little red wagon just sitting in the parking lot. :'( In about half a year Ill have a garage though. :)
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 07, 2004, 09:02:36 PM
Im just finishing up the trunk this week and am going to start the 5 lug Granada rotor swap. Should be a hoot  :P
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 09, 2004, 12:46:53 PM
 If you look at the FAQ section in the Front disc brakes you will see what im doing with the 5 lug Granada rotors. BTW I went to the junk yard yesterday 9/8/04, and ALL the granada's had the front spindle, rotors etc pulled off. Hmm, I wonder what thats all about.
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Post by: wagonmaster on September 09, 2004, 08:19:35 PM
Brad, they are a direct swap into '65-'70 Mustangs. Very common swap.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 20, 2004, 08:08:20 PM
 I thought I would post a few pic's of my trunk now that is done. Please do not pay attention to the finger prints on the Aluminum. I was having a hard time with the glare and the flash would bounce all over If I cleaned it up. Note the power cut off switch on the side wall.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 20, 2004, 08:09:17 PM
 Here is one more. ( I know, it looks like there are two pair of wires and two stainless lines but its just the reflection of the mirrior polish on the aluminum)  ;D
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 20, 2004, 08:11:58 PM
 Here is the fuel pumps completed with wireing etc.
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Post by: bricker4864 on September 20, 2004, 09:52:09 PM
My eyes! My eyes!  8) That's better.
Looks awsome! Very tidy and shiney!
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 20, 2004, 10:11:21 PM
Not quite shiney as I want it but it will do for now... ( thanks for the compliment)  ;)
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Post by: crazyhorse on September 25, 2004, 11:20:19 PM
ALL HAIL Brad, the reigning king of SHINEY 8)

Sorry Jeff, you're just the Crown Prince of SHINEY  :P

Me? I don't even qualify for the Court Jester of shiney  :'( ....YET!!  ;)
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Post by: 78pinto on September 29, 2004, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: turbopinto72 on August 17, 2004, 07:24:52 PM
Another view.

Brad, i was looking at your pictures, and i noticed your NOS bottle is pointing the wrong way. I was told, and read that the siphone tube needs to stay in the liquid nitrous, but the way you have it, on accelaration, the liquid would uncover the tube wouldn't it?
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 29, 2004, 09:51:38 AM
actually, I did a little research on that and its not all that bad. In my application, I will not be using it to spool to the turbo but rather use it at WOT in high gear to help pull the grear. BUT, if you notice the bottle in my Green 2.5 I have it facing the other way becouse I used it up against my trans brake to spool the turbo.
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Post by: 78pinto on September 29, 2004, 10:29:44 AM
fair enough! I'm thinking my bottle is NOT going to fit in the trunk without a floor lowering modification, but i haven't measured yet. What say you?
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 29, 2004, 10:54:03 AM
The Bottle does take some height to install. The probblem with a trunk vs a hatch is that there is verry little ( head) roon in the trunk. And, if your pointing the bottle forward this makes matters worse. I dont rember what your trunk looks like but, if you are cutting away more trunk floor there will be more room on the passanger side than the drivers side. A bottle will take about 8" min clear width and about 22" in length.
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Post by: 78pinto on September 29, 2004, 12:57:48 PM
i went out, took the bottle and brackets with me, it will fit length wise, but you gotta reach deep to get the bootle open. I'll probably mount it crosswise, for ease of reach and removal. (darn small cars ;D)
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 29, 2004, 01:01:31 PM
Yeah, and if you mount it so the neck is facing the drivers side then when the car stands up on the bumper and the suspension twists so the rear left is squating and right front wheel is about 2 ft higher, then the bottle will be perfect.......... :P ;D
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Post by: 78pinto on September 30, 2004, 12:02:00 AM
lol, i'm getting my buddy to make me an airbag for the right rear to eliminate that nasty roll, next season it will launch with no body roll! I just sent him all the measurements yesterday.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 04, 2004, 05:43:30 PM
Pictures of the completed 5 lug 11" front brakeing system are now on the FAQ , Front Brake topic for you to view
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Post by: 78pinto on November 04, 2004, 11:41:44 PM
nice work dude!
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Post by: turbopinto72 on November 05, 2004, 10:54:31 AM
Thanks.............. 8)
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Post by: turbopinto72 on November 08, 2004, 06:27:04 PM
I got my down pipe made and installed today. I think it came out nice. NOTE, I did not need to move the heater fan. This is a 3" pipe all the way back.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 08, 2004, 06:28:07 PM
Here is the outlet of the down pipe.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on November 08, 2004, 06:29:22 PM
This is the pipe that will be under the car.
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Post by: 78pinto on November 09, 2004, 12:01:37 AM
cool....but it's not shiney?! ??? ;)
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Post by: crazyhorse on November 09, 2004, 01:46:03 AM
With the heat wrap i guarantee it's COOL. 8) I bet that's #1 prority on that pat... carrying the heat AWAY from the motor. Without that heat wrap the reast of Brad's excellent work wouldn't stay SHINEY long. (I won't mention a certain [currently unshiney] 351w I've heard about LOL)
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: 78pinto on November 09, 2004, 09:39:03 AM
i'd get them ceramic coated.....minutes after you shut the car off, you can grab ahold of the pipes and they are cool.  And they are shiney 8)
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 09, 2004, 06:58:27 PM
The flowmaster muffler is not shiney becouse it was off the 289 car. Otherwise thats a 3"x4' length of stainless pipe thats, ( kinda shiney) ;) And  I got it FREE from Gale Banks.................  ;D
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: 78pinto on November 10, 2004, 02:23:39 AM
Quote from: turbopinto72 on November 09, 2004, 06:58:27 PMAnd  I got it FREE from Gale Banks.................  ;D

B.S.........  Is it signed? Didn't think so! ;)
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 10, 2004, 10:45:11 AM
Quote from: 78pinto on November 10, 2004, 02:23:39 AM
Quote from: turbopinto72 on November 09, 2004, 06:58:27 PMAnd  I got it FREE from Gale Banks.................  ;D

B.S......... Is it signed? Didn't think so! ;)
OH, a challange.I love it. ;) ............
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: crazyhorse on November 11, 2004, 11:52:56 AM
And with that the Gauntlet is thrown down.

Tonite on FordPinto Smackdown!!!!!!.... LMAO
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 17, 2004, 07:11:44 PM
Thats funny.............. >:( ;)
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Glassman on December 19, 2004, 11:21:15 AM
Looking great Brad.
Have you used header wrap before?
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: 78pinto on December 22, 2004, 09:09:43 AM
Looking back on all your posted pictures on this car Brad.....you for sure have the bling meter pegged!



Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on December 27, 2004, 10:10:51 PM
 I have not used header wrap before this project.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on February 01, 2005, 09:40:21 AM
Well, Ive got 11 weeks before the Knotts Ford show and I still need to paint the car. It wouldnt be so bad but the fiberglass is taking about 1million hours to prep :'(. Anyways, Im still going back and forth with the wheels. Now Im looking at doing an " all black wheel" maybe having something powder coated. ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 05, 2005, 10:01:52 PM
Well, I got the beast fired up today. WOW, this thing is nasty.... I will try and post an audio of what it sounds like. Your not going to believe its a 2.0 motor.  More to come.......... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 05, 2005, 10:12:49 PM
Meanwhile, this is the state its in...........
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 05, 2005, 10:16:29 PM
And it all went down to the metal ( and fiberglass ).........just about ready to paint.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 05, 2005, 10:20:08 PM
Allmost ready for some paint.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on March 05, 2005, 11:12:52 PM
Hey Brad,
I like your credo "Your Never Too Old To Go Fast"
Do you ever go REALLY fast and think???  "Did I Double Check the torq on those lug nuts?" ;D
From Pintony
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 06, 2005, 10:54:56 AM
Quote from: Pintony on March 05, 2005, 11:12:52 PM
Hey Brad,
I like your credo "Your Never Too Old To Go Fast"
Do you ever go REALLY fast and think??? "Did I Double Check the torq on those lug nuts?" ;D
From Pintony

hehehe, well, the other credo is " the older I get the more I need to doubble check things". I cant tell you how many nuts and bolts I find loose............. :o
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: crazyhorse on March 06, 2005, 11:19:04 AM
Brad, the Pangra is lookin BEAU_TI_FUL!!! It's so nice that you may not get points in a show cuz the judges were blinded by the SHINEY!!  :P Thanks to guys like you the Pinto is WELL represented!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 06, 2005, 12:48:05 PM
Thanks, I appreciate the comment. My SHINEY was almost tarnished yesterday when I was running it for the first time. About 10 min into the break-in cycle the upper radiator came off and blew hot antifreeze/water all over the place. The other bad thing was I was standing right in front of it when it happened and got doused with 180 deg water. Cant tell you how that su@ks, I got burned on both legs and one arm. Still does not fell great today ( the good news is I got all of it off my SHINEY parts............ :o :o ::) :'(
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: crazyhorse on March 06, 2005, 01:32:06 PM
OWWWWWWW!!!!! Been there, done that I had a radiator cap blow off (of course I was being stupid & opening it while it was hot) I was standing directly in front of it & got the most of it on my chest. It didn't feel right for a week or two. Now I know what a lobster feels like!!!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 18, 2005, 02:22:05 PM
A few up date pictures on the paint. The door is 3 coated with base and a small repair going on. The body has the first clear coat.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 18, 2005, 02:23:55 PM
You guys know how I like shiney...... ;D This is four coats of base, each coat wet sanded between with 1500 over four coats of primer and the first clear coat.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 18, 2005, 02:25:27 PM
So, what does a work bench look like when Painting............ :-\
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Glassman on March 19, 2005, 08:47:59 AM
 :o Looking great as usual, Brad.  The bench looks like the back of my wagon when I was working on it.

(http://photos.imageevent.com/pandbz/miscpics2/websize/2169900-R1-013-5.jpg)


Wheres that sound clip?  And I dont mean cow....rooster....bark :P
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: bricker4864 on March 22, 2005, 04:23:19 PM
Looking good Brad!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 22, 2005, 08:28:11 PM
Thanks. I got the interior done and doors painted now. The Powder coater jacked up my door handles, front window trim and rear bumper....... >:( >:(, needless to say im not happy................ >:( >:(
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 05, 2005, 09:01:40 PM
Well, hear is a good one for ya all. after firing the car up and running it  I noticed that the oil pressure guage was pegged at 100+ lbs oil pressure. I figured it was broken or something so I installed a mechanical guage at the oil feed to the turbo. It to showed 100+ lbs oil pressure. After a few days of thinking and calls to both Dan and Dwayne Esslinger it was concluded that my Hi volume/Hi pressure Melling oil pump was defective. Dwayne said he thinks I could have hada up to 200 lbs oil pressure ( this would be the bad part). SO, I called Summit, they called Melling and the next day at 9:00 am I had a new ( stock) oil pump. I pulled the rack, dropped the sway bar, pulled the pan, installed the new pump etc......... Fired it up and now have 70 lbs oil pressure at 1300 rpm cold and about 60 lbs warm ( from a STOCK pump). Who needs anything more????? as a matter of fact its probbably to much ( I will be changing oil from 20/50 to a streight wt oil.   :o >:( :P ;D
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: CHEAPRACER on April 05, 2005, 10:44:15 PM
I installed a high volume pump on a previous 2.3 project and while bump starting the engine to check valve lash, it  shot the oil across my ceiling and down my brother before figured we should throw the cover on.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: wagonmaster on April 10, 2005, 12:37:08 PM
On Friday, April 8th, I went down and helped Brad with his Pangra. We got the brakes working, the doors and decklid aligned and working well, and determined why the oil pressure went away when running the engine to test changes Brad had done. All-in-all, a fairly productive day, plus, for lunch,  Brad fed me one of the best pita sandwiches I've ever had!!  :)  I'll let Brad fill in all the details later!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 10, 2005, 10:11:23 PM
Quote from: 79panel on April 10, 2005, 12:37:08 PM
On Friday, April 8th, I went down and helped Brad with his Pangra. We got the brakes working, the doors and decklid aligned and working well, and determined why the oil pressure went away when running the engine to test changes Brad had done. All-in-all, a fairly productive day, plus, for lunch, Brad fed me one of the best pita sandwiches I've ever had!! :) I'll let Brad fill in all the details later!
Yes, many many Thanks to Brian for all the help with the car. I have yet to try out the brakes........ :o.......... But I'm sure they will work well..... ;D........ This weekend I got the door handles back from the powdercoater and installed them as well as the inside panels etc.Got the front fenders on ( finally, after dropping one of them while the paint was wet and spending about 5 extra hours doing scratch repair and fixing a piece of gel coat that fell off........ >:( ). Any way, a little more paint and some clear coat and a test run.........everybody cross their fingers... ;)
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: 78pinto on April 10, 2005, 10:24:08 PM
good job, get the test run on video, i'd love to see it!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: TIGGER on April 11, 2005, 06:55:48 PM
Lets see some pics ;D
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: wagonmaster on April 11, 2005, 10:09:47 PM
Hey Brad, did you have much trouble getting the oil galley plug taken care of?
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Sir Hugh on April 11, 2005, 11:46:35 PM
Hey, is this the car you are trying to finish for the Knott's Ford show?  If it is, oh man will it be a sight to see.  You have done some fantastic work from what I can seen.  Can't wait to see it in person.  Good Luck!  :D
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 12, 2005, 09:12:58 PM
Brian, the oil galley plug was only 1/2 of the equation. after I fired it up I STILL did not have oil pressure. So, I once again removed the aux cover plate but noticed that my fix was working. I could spin the dist shaft and see no oil leaking out the plug. The oil pressure would go up to 25 lbs then drop down to 12. SO..............off goes the pan.................again......... however I did find the culprit. It seams that the oil pick up tube had loosened from the pump causing a mass leak inside the block. Its fixed now............... >:( >:( >:( :o.........Any way Now I'm working on fitting the Hood ( which needs some massaging). Nothing like taking it down to the wire. OH BTW, I fixed the throttle cable bracket so it does not move. I added another bracket to it. More news to come tomorrow....
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 12, 2005, 09:14:21 PM
Quote from: Sir Hugh on April 11, 2005, 11:46:35 PM
Hey, is this the car you are trying to finish for the Knott's Ford show? If it is, oh man will it be a sight to see. You have done some fantastic work from what I can seen. Can't wait to see it in person. Good Luck! :D

Yes, this is the one and its giving me fits BUT I think I'm wining............. :P
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 14, 2005, 08:56:42 PM
Its never too late to start clear coating your car ( even when its 2 days before a show.......... :o :o )
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on May 01, 2005, 04:42:55 PM
So the clear coat did not go well but at least I have a clean garage. Here are a few pic's of the ( not yet done car" but a clean garage. 8)
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on May 01, 2005, 04:44:46 PM
And yet another view of the "shiney" garage. ( Im sure Scotts garage will be even more shiney).
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on May 01, 2005, 07:20:01 PM
Hey Brad,
Those wheels look familiar. ;D
Loose the blacked out taillight frames. TOO much Black.
Nothing looks better than Black and Chrome!!!!!
From Pintony
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: crazyhorse on May 03, 2005, 10:52:07 AM
Hey brad, haven't you heard?... A clean garage is a sign of a sick mind!?! LOL

Peronally I think both are lookin GREAT! Knowing all the work that went INSIDE the Pangra & what went on it that garage for the last month or so, I know MY stuff wouldn't look that good!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: wagonmaster on May 03, 2005, 09:58:22 PM
Hey Brad, have you had a chance to drive it at all yet? Are the brakes working properly now? Starting to look SHINEY!!!  ;)
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: TIGGER on May 03, 2005, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: turbopinto72 on May 01, 2005, 04:44:46 PM
And yet another view of the "shiney" garage. ( Im sure Scotts garage will be even more shiney).
Brad, the car looks real good with the Torque Thrusts on there.  Nice choice!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on May 03, 2005, 10:47:59 PM
Hey Brien, I drove the car about 1/2 block and the brakes were still a littlr spongey. I think I still need to go all the way around the car one more time and to a bleed. Thanks..........
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on May 03, 2005, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: TIGGER on May 03, 2005, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: turbopinto72 on May 01, 2005, 04:44:46 PM
And yet another view of the "shiney" garage. ( Im sure Scotts garage will be even more shiney).
Brad, the car looks real good with the Torque Thrusts on there. Nice choice!
Thanks, Those are 16x8 rear and 15x6 fronts ( I know Tony thinks I "copyed" him) But, those are some big meats on the rear.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on May 03, 2005, 11:09:56 PM
Hey Brad,
I just beat you up a little.
I thought those rears looked BIGGGG!
OK your The First to put 16" Torq Thrusts on a Pinto.
There you happy NOW?????? ;D ;D ;D
NOW, let's talk about the blacked out taillights! :P
From Pintony
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on May 03, 2005, 11:12:41 PM
Yeah, I know you dont like them but It will match the black bumper. But Hey, just today I installed my Aluminum billet licence plate frame just for you......... :o
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on May 03, 2005, 11:20:02 PM
Whers the photo?????
Here is mine.
Ok, I need to shine it up......
From pintony
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on May 03, 2005, 11:32:32 PM
what, missing two bolts on the bottom.................... ???
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on May 03, 2005, 11:34:17 PM
That is legal in Illinois ;D
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on May 03, 2005, 11:48:12 PM
Ok, its dark and the garage door is shut so there is about 2' for me to take a pic BUT just for Tony, here it is. ;D
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on May 03, 2005, 11:56:52 PM
Here is the one on my Sportster.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on July 03, 2006, 07:39:04 PM
In case anyone is wondering, I have not been working on this car much. I have been tinkering on my Green 2.5 but I've been real busy. I hope to get back to this car soon. This was also my 2000th post, I guess I need to get a life.......... ;)
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on July 03, 2006, 08:34:55 PM
Hey Brad,
GET A LIFE?
I have almost as many posts and and have only been a member of this forum for since 05.
From Pintony
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on July 04, 2006, 12:18:34 AM
Quote from: Pintony on July 03, 2006, 08:34:55 PM
Hey Brad,
GET A LIFE?
I have almost as many posts and and have only been a member of this forum for since 05.
From Pintony

SO WHAT.......... !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: gentlegiant on July 04, 2006, 07:48:56 AM
I think Pintony is claiming to be more in need of getting a life. 
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on July 04, 2006, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: turbopinto72 on July 03, 2006, 07:39:04 PM
In case anyone is wondering, I have not been working on this car much. I have been tinkering on my Green 2.5 but I've been real busy. I hope to get back to this car soon. This was also my 2000th post, I guess I need to get a life.......... ;)

Hello Turbopinto72,

As usual I put my foot in my mouth.....

2000 post is a GREAT contribution to this group...

I CONSIDER YOU A VERY VALUEABLE MEMBER.

Sorry if I made your 2000 posts seem less than spectacular.
That was not my intension.
Sorry for missing the point AGAIN.
From Pintony
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 10, 2007, 04:59:05 PM
I have been working on this car while I have the spare time and Its "nearly " ready for shows. The paint still needs a lot of work but Mechanically its about 99%.
Here are some shots of how its looking.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 10, 2007, 05:00:09 PM
A few more pics.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 10, 2007, 05:01:29 PM
And The Tail end.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 10, 2007, 05:02:27 PM
And a coupple engine pics.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: 78pinto on April 10, 2007, 05:29:55 PM
Brad, that car looks so awesome! Two thumbs up from the Canadian judge!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on April 10, 2007, 06:03:30 PM
Hey Brad,

Cant wait untill Knottsberry to see your ride in person!!!
:o
From Pintony
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: skrach on April 11, 2007, 01:44:46 AM
wow. thats very nice. love the wheel stance.. and how well they fill the wheelwells. awesome. very nice.. bodywork is wonderful..
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 11, 2007, 01:49:34 AM
Thanks Jeff, Tony and Scratch. I appreciate the comments.  ;D
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: crazyhorse on April 11, 2007, 05:53:51 PM
ok Brad, I think you owe me a keyboard!
I think the drool just killed it!
That is SAHweet!! Killer stance & surgically clean man!
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on October 17, 2007, 03:38:30 AM
Have fun with this video I through together in my spare time, and turn your speakers on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwiOUL2BS-k
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintaro on October 17, 2007, 07:08:56 AM
That was cool.Love your car
                                 Mike
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: FCANON on October 17, 2007, 10:09:30 AM
I'm not into billet but that is soooo nice...
I sure woundn't kick it out of bed.

Frank
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: redmustangman3 on October 17, 2007, 11:22:44 AM
Hi Brad: What a super video !! Puts a whole new meaning to "Black is beautiful". Joe in Morgan Hill
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: dholvrsn on October 17, 2007, 12:17:24 PM
Your video is inspirational for me to get back to my turbo Pinto project. Plus your car is incredibly sharp!

So did War change two notes in that song and call it "Cisco Kid"? :laugh:
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 10, 2008, 02:12:30 AM
Here is something fun you can do in your spare time  ;D When the page loads scroll to the bottom. Then put the puzzle together.

http://three.flash-gear.com/npuz/puz.php?c=v&id=3046577&k=57841667
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: douglasskemp on March 10, 2008, 09:42:14 PM
Okay, I spent too much time today finishing this puzzle over and over again.   :P
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintony on March 10, 2008, 10:08:33 PM
At least you do not have to flip all the pieces right-side up first!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on June 07, 2008, 06:52:32 PM
Well, it seems like I have done something that might not have been done before... surprised The last time I ran the car, while on deceleration the engine stopped. It looked like I threw a timing belt. To make a long story short. I noticed the Aux shaft was not turning. So, How to get the shaft out of the engine? I fabbed  a puller and pulled it out. What was stuck ? take a look at the pictures. The first pic is what a good shaft should look like.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on June 07, 2008, 06:54:43 PM
Now, lets compare that with what I pulled out just for fun.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on June 07, 2008, 06:56:02 PM
I really hope I can save this block as it is a Cosworth Turbo block............ >:(
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: FCANON on June 07, 2008, 07:19:32 PM
ewwww...man that bites

FrankBoss
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Srt on June 08, 2008, 04:04:34 AM
 :'( that is UGLY.  i hope you can save it
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on July 05, 2008, 07:34:21 PM
So, I am tearing down the engine and I notice something else I dont like. It seems that the head gasket was leaking. I had a similar issue with the Green 2.5 Turbo car. I think I know how to fix it.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on July 05, 2008, 07:38:34 PM
The gasket held up fine between the head and the gasket but the block side did not hold up very well.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on July 05, 2008, 07:43:58 PM
The block side of the gasket interfaces with the " O " ringed block. the O rings ride just on the outside of the fire ring of the head gasket.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on July 05, 2008, 07:50:15 PM
You might be able to see in the upper right corner of this pic, a slight depression just around the outside edge of the head gasket fire ring.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on July 05, 2008, 08:00:17 PM
The water seepage is not much and amounts to steam but its still an issue, as you can see. what I have done in the past is use a small amount of silicone and " wipe " the surface of the gasket prior to install. Then I use about 1/2 of the radiator stop leak. That seems to cure this issue.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on October 24, 2008, 11:11:09 PM
So, I am swapping blocks and using a standard Pinto block instead of the Cossie block. The aux shaft in the Cossie block will need to be delt with at another time. So for now, I will use my spare block. Below are pictures of the two blocks. The purple is the cossie block and the blue block is the standard Pinto block
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on October 24, 2008, 11:13:58 PM
The numbers on the cossie block are 205 as you can see from the photos. There are other different numbers also. See photos.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on October 24, 2008, 11:16:54 PM
The standard Pinto block have the following numbers.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on October 24, 2008, 11:21:42 PM
One of the things I had to do is relieve the piston at the exhaust valve. BTY this is NOT really the best way to do this but it works. I used clay to check the clearance between the piston and valve. Actually, the ex valve would never get this close to the piston because at TDC the valve is not at full open, But, for safety sake and in case I break a belt etc I wanted to be safe,
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on October 24, 2008, 11:24:30 PM
The finished product looks ok.
The next picture I wanted to show you is what I did with the intake ports. As you can see I raised the bottom of the port and raised the top.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Pintopower on October 28, 2008, 08:00:24 PM
Damn. Nice.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Srt on October 29, 2008, 12:45:24 AM
what material did you use to raise the floor of the ports?  are the 2.3 heads as restrictive in the valve pockets as the 2.0 heads?
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 09, 2008, 07:04:04 PM
Quote from: srt on October 29, 2008, 12:45:24 AM
what material did you use to raise the floor of the ports?  are the 2.3 heads as restrictive in the valve pockets as the 2.0 heads?

JB Weld  ;)

The 2.3 head is a little better in the valve pocket than the 2.0
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 09, 2008, 07:07:31 PM
Ok, so its time to bolt on some stuff and get the engine back in the car.
Pictures of the flywheel and clutch/pressure plate
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 09, 2008, 07:09:08 PM
Next the pressure plate goes on.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 09, 2008, 07:11:36 PM
Next, the engine goes back in the car. But wait, whats this ????
That does not look like the same set up as before......Hmmm, what could I be up to now?
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 09, 2008, 07:15:30 PM
One more pic
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: r4pinto on November 09, 2008, 09:28:28 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Srt on November 10, 2008, 04:04:13 AM
your gonna pressurize the holley?
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 10, 2008, 09:53:16 AM
Quote from: srt on November 10, 2008, 04:04:13 AM
your gonna pressurize the holley?

YUP......... ;D

Still need to mount the innercooler run the plumbing , mount the Blow off valve and build a hat.......... Stay tuned
Title: Re:73 Pangra Project
Post by: Srt on November 11, 2008, 03:41:16 AM
Quote from: turbopinto72 on October 01, 2003, 09:33:42 PM
The turbo is a T4 with a .69 AR and an "N" turbine wheel. Its probably not the " best" turbo for this combo but it works well.

that is what i used on mine originally.  i did like the t4 because of the 'on-center' design.  i did try a .96 ar  but couldn't get the thing to respond like i "needed" it to on the street on friday & saturday nights on the blvd here in whitter.  it also wasn't the best at the 1/4 mile (considering what i had to work with)

street use it's great because of it's quick response but at the top end it tends to pump to much pressure (remember the time frame here) leading to detonation problems.  Mind you I'm talking back in the early '70's.  Intake charge temp was a problem.  Fuel distribution was a problem. 

i had a .96  off set on mine for a while and the top end was unbelievable but i couldn't (at the time) make it live.  It was a street fighter so i changed it back.
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: Srt on November 11, 2008, 03:43:51 AM
Quote from: turbopinto72 on November 10, 2008, 09:53:16 AM
YUP......... ;D

Still need to mount the innercooler run the plumbing , mount the Blow off valve and build a hat.......... Stay tuned

i had a feeling you might be going that way when you inquired about 'hats' a while back

you think a plastic hat will hold the pressure?
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on January 18, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
Innercooler.....well, I have been working on the innercooler for a bit and thought I would post some ( pre shiny " pictures of the progress to date.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on January 18, 2009, 06:21:25 PM
The picture above ant this one shows the Hat I am using that the plumbing from the hat top the innercooler.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on January 18, 2009, 06:24:28 PM
This is the Hot side of the plumbing.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on January 18, 2009, 06:27:59 PM
This Picture shows the large pipe where the filter will mount and the connection ( still need the 90* ) to the innercooler.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on January 18, 2009, 06:30:41 PM
Here is a picture of how it looks from the top.
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Post by: Srt on January 19, 2009, 04:12:21 AM
very nice...
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Post by: redmustangman3 on January 19, 2009, 10:27:37 AM
Brad: That looks awesome!!! Will we get to see it up close at Knott's? Hope so.....Joe
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Post by: 71HANTO on January 19, 2009, 12:19:52 PM

A work of art of the highest order :drunk:
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 15, 2009, 05:33:55 PM
Here is the wee-lil beast basically put together. I still need to put the shine on the car.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 15, 2009, 05:36:57 PM
Another picture of the exhaust side of the car.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 15, 2009, 05:39:47 PM
The intake side of the car.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 15, 2009, 05:42:48 PM
And the front end of the car.
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Post by: discolives78 on February 15, 2009, 06:01:46 PM
Agreed, a work of art.

Chuck
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Post by: dave1987 on February 15, 2009, 07:13:47 PM
WOW!

I bet you get a a lot of gratification knowing that you've done it all by YOUR hands, and that such a beautiful work of art resides in your garage. :D
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Post by: map351 on February 15, 2009, 07:45:58 PM
If you happen to have a tuning issue go for the 685 first, We lost 3 685s last year..
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 16, 2009, 12:10:08 AM
Thanks for the comments guys.  ;D
I've put some time in this motor and appreciate the thumbs up.
MAP351.... Do you mean the 685 Mallory Hy Fire ignition? So far its been preforming well. What is it about the ignition that goes bad ?

Thanks
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Post by: map351 on February 16, 2009, 10:12:16 AM
Yep,the 685 Mallory. Started having tuning issues power degrades then up in smoke..

Mike
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 23, 2009, 07:43:23 PM
I got the car started today. Fired right up ( I hope that is a good sign ).
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Post by: Srt on February 24, 2009, 04:04:59 AM
Quote from: turbopinto72 on February 23, 2009, 07:43:23 PM
I got the car started today. Fired right up ( I hope that is a good sign ).

did it sound 'right'?  with or without a muffler?  did you get it onto the street?
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Post by: turbopinto72 on February 24, 2009, 12:06:20 PM
The car sounded great. I did have the muffler on it though. Probably wont get it on the street untill next weekend. I still need to adjust the clutch and my oil pressure guage is not working for some reason ( Its not a probblem with the oil pressure but its at the guage ).
Title: Re: 73 Pangra Project
Post by: turbopinto72 on July 09, 2009, 05:34:14 PM
OK, So after I ran and tuned this combo I discovered, via a wide band O2 that There really is no way to tune this the way I need to. The Holly 500 can be tuned for idle and off idle OR for when the boost comes in. ITs Either to lean OR to Fat Soooo, I solved the problem by installing a Holley 650 double pumper. See below.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on July 09, 2009, 05:37:27 PM
There is a few things I did to this carb to prep it for boost.One of the things I had to do was cut the choke horn off. It was in the way of the air flow through the Hat.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on July 09, 2009, 05:40:57 PM
I used an Offenhouser manifold ( because I already had it )But I did a little work on the inside of it. Those you you that know what the inside of one of these looks like can appreciate the work... The second pic is one I lifted from ebay. Look at the center section of the plenum.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on July 09, 2009, 05:43:29 PM
Another thing I did was install a blowoff valve. Hard to see under all the lines.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on November 07, 2010, 06:31:18 PM
OK, so this Winter I will be installing the Waste gate mounted on an Ak Mller Ex manifold. Below are some pictures of it.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on November 08, 2010, 11:12:21 AM
I hated to drill a hole in an Ak Miller manifold, but some things cant be helped........ :o
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Post by: tinkerman73 on February 03, 2011, 12:26:18 PM
So, how is the hot pants kit coming? This is something I would certainly want to get in the uture. Also, how much different would it be for the 77 wagon. From clip from a later model car. Thanks.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 17, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
This car is now for sale. Please see the classifieds . You can also use this thread to ask questions etc.
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Post by: turbopinto72 on September 23, 2014, 12:31:00 PM
I just posted a bunch of pictures in my Ad in the classified section
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Post by: turbopinto72 on November 04, 2014, 11:31:06 AM
This car will be up for sale on Ebay starting 11-4-14
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Post by: Reeves1 on November 05, 2014, 04:59:30 AM
May have to post links.
I just tried to Google it & all that would show up are Pantera cars.
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Post by: Srt on November 05, 2014, 07:52:41 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251705254113?item=251705254113&pt=US_Cars_Trucks