It looks like I settled for a name for my latest addition to my family. She does fly, believe me. But there are things she needs too. Today I'll start with what I found.
Some little !@*^$%# punk jerks (kids in my neighborhood unfortunately) apparently pulled the Shake Your Can Of Soda And Let 'er Rip On Somebody's Car bit on Avocado. I wondered what the sticky splotches were and the more I realized what it was and neighbors confirmed seeing a couple schmucks in our cul-de-sac the madder I got. >:( :nocool: >:( :mad: >:( So I gave her a bath (don't tell anyone. :angel:) and while I was wiping I found this (stay tuned...)...
Oh come on! you can't make us wait, what did you find ??? ??? ??? ???
Sorry to make you wait with baited breath...I hadn't resized the pix before I started this topic and didn't have the good sense to wait til I did...
I see that there's lots and LOTS! of rust flakes from inside these luggage rack roof protectors. I'm already missing one and at least this one evens it out. :-\ ??? >:(
I just took a good look at the resized pix and realized: being short sux! >:( I'm sorry the pictures are not from a good angle. She is parked in the driveway and between the poorly-constructed surface of that and the uneven soil next to it a stepladder would only kill me. :nocool:
Wagon and other luggage-rack Pinto people: What is your take on this mess? The upper chrome(?) is still fairly shiny but the metal between that and the rubber gasket(?) on the bottom of the strips on the roof are toast. Or flakes if we wanna be breakfasty about it. If I were to buy replacement strips how would I prevent this from happening again?
The good news is: Avocado is clean and mostly waxed. She probably has never been properly waxed- especially hand-rubbed. I hope the soda didn't mess the paint up terribly, being acidic and all... :look:
I have never seen that before. Even on the parts wagon that had set outside, sinking down to the axels.
Becky,
I would pull all the strips, If you see rust, it's a good bet the Roof has some. Not just the Rack ??? Find it now before any causes pinholes in the sheet metal. Inspect the Rack mounts too.
Sun,w/sea air or even worse... snow w/road salt as in ski car will doom you to big $$ for body work. If it's too bad , you'll be fixin' Wildfire first :look:
BTW , why not call it Flying Guacamole!
Pintosopher... A Horsey with Spicy dip between the ears
Blupinto, Thank God that the cookie crumblers didn't use raw eggs!!!! That would take the paint right off!!! (Lesson learn many years ago with my first pinto {and girlfreind}). :nocool:
Tales of Sandy Manes
There's a Wagon on the West Coast, where the Ocean has a side,
There's a lady with some passion and she takes it all in stride.
The karma of her energy ,makes us remember why we came,
It's a new kind of loyalty ,with it's context tough to frame.
She's on a path to learn ,on how to master these ways of the Horse,
She's gonna get it done we all know ,by the powers to be , of Course!
So grab your books , your thoughts,and even a part or two..
So Becky and friends can join us next year, in the Land Of Good JuJu!
Dippin' the Sauce again.... ::)
Pintosopher
Oh Man, another roof rack rusted. Mine are pretty bad on my 73 Wagon also. I was probably going to clean the roof off of all accessories and go baby-butt smooth. Make sure you use a good "Etching" primer after you remove and sand down before you touch up the paint. Of course good luck matching it, I think that is a lost art, you really have to find an old school paint shop that will even try to match anymore.
GOOD LUCK!!!
Al...
She could alway cover the roof with authenick fake leather!
Are you referring to naugahyde, CB?
Pintosopher, I call her The Flying Avocado because she's dark green on the outside, er, avocado green on the inside. I cannot stand the taste of avocados in any of their forms, so guacamole (gackamole in beckyspeak) is out. Plus, I've never heard of any blue ingredients in gackamole, and FA is already sportin' light blue armrests and will eventually have a matching steering wheel (til I can get other avocado green accessories.)
Where that strip was on the roof the rivet remains fast in the sheetmetal. The car lived in the local mountains and got snowed on I'm sure (her overall condition indicates that she wasn't babied or even basically sheltered for any length of time. I'm about 7.5 miles away from the ocean- in fact I'm almost in Vista, Dan's area.
Matching paint: Well, I'll not worry about that. Between the bondoed areas and the fading (my waxing sponge took on a darkish green as I was applying the wax) paint itself, she'll just get repainted. ;D Sopmeday, anyway. :drunk:
Ya know I was just a pickin' at ya? :evil:
Sounds like you got yourself a plan Becky.... I like the "beckyspeak" :D . Have you thought of using vinyl paint/dye for the mismatched parts?
Yes I have... briefly. I'm funny about this. I would rather mave mismatched (color) parts than get the parts repainted to match. Because she's not the "show" car I'm not that concerned about her odds n ends. Plus, the paint would have to match the sun-faded color or it'll have the same effect as the blue parts. :look: :-\
Yes, CB you are a tease extraordinaire. Here's your crown. :angel: :P :laugh: lol. Can you imagine- saddle naugahyde vinyltop on a forest green wagon...that won't elicit strange looks... ::) :rolleye: ;)
more on why my driving her needs its own project thread later... :embarrassed: ??? :read: :reek: :showback: :nocool:
Quote from: blupinto on May 13, 2009, 10:31:17 PM
Yes I have... briefly. I'm funny about this. I would rather mave mismatched (color) parts than get the parts repainted to match. Because she's not the "show" car I'm not that concerned about her odds n ends. Plus, the paint would have to match the sun-faded color or it'll have the same effect as the blue parts. :look: :-\
Yes, CB you are a tease extraordinaire. Here's your crown. :angel: :P :laugh: lol. Can you imagine- saddle naugahyde vinyltop on a forest green wagon...that won't elicit strange looks... ::) :rolleye: ;)
more on why my driving her needs its own project thread later... :embarrassed: ??? :read: :reek: :showback: :nocool:
71HANTO SAYS....YOU...
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Yeah... looks like I need to break out a can of...
Yo Blu, At least it would look better than that wagon with the Pinto spots!!! :lol:
HAH! lol. :lol: :lol: :lol:
You mean The Pinto That Tried To Be A Maverick Cow?! Poor thing... My heart bleeds for that wagon... :'( :laugh: :lol:
Guacamole on the hoof.
My suggestion for the roof is Astro turf. cover the entire roof in carpet glue and cover the whole roof in green astroturf. Then use a hole saw to cut a 3 inch hole in the center of the roof near the back and secure a piece of PVC with a cap on one end to the inside of the roof with a flange like a toilet uses (available at home depot) Then place a golf flag next to the hole. Next get a golf putter and a few golf balls. When you get stranded, you can practice putting on the roof while you wait for help. ;)
Just kidding! ;D
I'm from the desert, I don't see much rust!
Chuck :afro:
Quote from: discolives78 on May 14, 2009, 10:16:40 PM
Guacamole on the hoof.
My suggestion for the roof is Astro turf. cover the entire roof in carpet glue and cover the whole roof in green astroturf. Then use a hole saw to cut a 3 inch hole in the center of the roof near the back and secure a piece of PVC with a cap on one end to the inside of the roof with a flange like a toilet uses (available at home depot) Then place a golf flag next to the hole. Next get a golf putter and a few golf balls. When you get stranded, you can practice putting on the roof while you wait for help. ;)
Just kidding! ;D
I'm from the desert, I don't see much rust!
Chuck :afro:
LOL That was too funny!!! LOL But, you know that would go with the shaggy green carpet on the inside!!!!!!!! LOL Sorry Becky, had to say it!! LOL
By the way, Welcome back Chuck!!!!! Nice to see you posting again!!!
My best friend suggested a couple pink flamingos in the trunk area. ??? ::) :lol:
Well, for some good news: I'm a lot better at driving FA. I barely stall her at intersections anymore. I'm getting the friction piont down. YAY! :happy_bday: Bless her, when I follow the starting procedure (when starting her from being parked) she fires right up. Sometimes I have to lightly tap the accelerator to keep her going, but still...
She does bog sometimes and I know nothing about when her fuel filter was last replaced so tomorrow I'll be doing that. Sometime in the (hopefully near) future I'll be also re-securing her exhaust pipe. And replacing her steering wheel. And finishing the sewing of her headliner. And ... ::)
Practice makes perfect, Becky :). Glad to hear you are making progress!
Chuck :afro:
Possible bad news.
Now don't beat me up too much. Ive been doing enough of that already. :( I took my Green Girl to the dog park (naturally with dogs in tow) like usual, but on the way back (in the dark, also naturally) I heard noises like something underneath FA was either hitting the asphalt or the inner wheel/tire (we were traveling at speed) and at one point I pulled over on the highway and looked at the exhaust pipe and muffler (it's been a lil' loose lately) but nothing dragging or appeared to be missing. She accelerated and shifted like normal but that horrible noise would come again- then go. After I got home I got my flashlight and found a) a grease smell, and b) a grease puddle and drips- coming from the differential housing. Because it was dark I didn't try to clean it off or anything, but I hope someone can see the pic and tell me if I ruined my green baby. :'(
Time to remove the cover and see whats underneath hun. No idea if you ruined it but it looks like its got a leak somewhere. Perhaps at the filler. not sure but that looks to be an 8in rear end but i could also be wrong, it looks taht way cause of the grease. it could still be the 6.75 rear but the bolts are covered in grease and not visible. anyways id remove the cover if its the 6.75 and check for loose bolts on the Pinion, Shavings anything that would Indicate that you might have ruined it. but rear-ends can be rebuilt.
I know I'll have to take the differential cover off (oh what fun.) but that'll be a job for when I'm (finally!) over this dumb cold. I'm still too tired-feeling and muzzy-headed for projects like this. Now riddle me this Batman: is there any way a bolt (!?) from inside the case could've been forced through the dif case? This morning I cleaned off where the dripping was and there's (I swear!) a threaded bolt-looking thing sticking out of the dif cover. There's even a lip of metal that was peeled away when this went through. The car never lost power, had the wheels seize up, nothing- except for that dragging-metal noise I heard coming back from the park. Is this unheard of or is this not so rare for these old road warriors? Thank you for any info, though I'm expecting the worst. As they say, when it rains it pours...
Well that sucks Becky! :'( I can't tell that well by the pics, but it looks like it is leaking out of the filler hole. Also looks like it has been leaking for a while!! I sure hope it is an easy fix!!
Get well soon, so you can update us on this!! ;D
:lol: :lol: Lookk fast Kimmy before the s word you put in turns to zoop... :lol: :lol:
On a sadder note no, it's not the filler hole. The filler hole is on the side, not rear-facing. Anyway, the business end of a bolt (?!) shouldn't be protruding and that incriminating lip of metal tells me something stinks... and it's not the gear oil (well, that smell makes me want to gag. :P) I wish it were a filler hole. Those can be easily replaced. The plug, that is.
Quote from: blupinto on August 05, 2009, 03:28:41 PM
:lol: :lol: Lookk fast Kimmy before the s word you put in turns to zoop... :lol: :lol:
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LOL I didn't even think about it when I wrote it! LOL I just don't consider that a bad word. Maybe it was taken off the "zoop" list! LOL
if it is a 6 3/4 rear end i have a cover you can have just let me know i might even have gears it needed. i think the ratio is 3:18 the rear end is still on the car and i dont need it the drums froze up on it from sitting so long.
phil
becky it sounds like one of the pinion bolts came out and got Launched into the diff cover. If so youll need to rebuild the rear end. New pinion and possibly new gears inside
Quote from: blupinto on August 05, 2009, 02:53:01 PM
I know I'll have to take the differential cover off (oh what fun.) but that'll be a job for when I'm (finally!) over this dumb cold. I'm still too tired-feeling and muzzy-headed for projects like this. Now riddle me this Batman: is there any way a bolt (!?) from inside the case could've been forced through the dif case? This morning I cleaned off where the dripping was and there's (I swear!) a threaded bolt-looking thing sticking out of the dif cover. There's even a lip of metal that was peeled away when this went through. The car never lost power, had the wheels seize up, nothing- except for that dragging-metal noise I heard coming back from the park. Is this unheard of or is this not so rare for these old road warriors? Thank you for any info, though I'm expecting the worst. As they say, when it rains it pours...
ring gear bolt or a differential side bearing cap, bolt. i had one of those caps break in half once and the result was a locked rear end and a driveshaft through the floor at freeway speed. it really is easiest to swap in a new/used replacement
Quote from: srt on August 05, 2009, 07:45:01 PM
ring gear bolt or a differential side bearing cap, bolt. i had one of those caps break in half once and the result was a locked rear end and a driveshaft through the floor at freeway speed. it really is easiest to swap in a new/used replacement
Yeah imagine that happening in an AMC Eagle wagon at 75 mph.. lo wasnt a fun night.
YIKES!!! I got lucky, huh?
Thank you guys, and thank you Phil for the offer. I am interested, just let me know the cost. I can't get the stuff right away (I'm already overdrawn. Thank you Mr. Governor.) but I'll be swapping eventually. I don't know what the rear end is, all I know is the car's a '73 with 4-speed manual and a 2.0 engine. Judging by the years of grease build-up on the outside I doubt the rear has ever been changed. :-\
To think I could've had lock-up...with the dogs in the back... (shudder)...
i pulled the cover and tried to clean it now it looks like swis cheese i counted 12 pin holes in it so it is no good sorry
phil
It's ok Phil... thank you for the offer anyway... :)
Ok here's a possibly ignorant (or downright dumb question)... If I found a '71 sedan could I possibly use the cover and guts if I had to on the '73 wagon, or are they two different setups based on car length, transmission, etc. ?
If its the same size rear end the gearing might be different but the rest is the same.
I have some rear ends out of 71 and 72 sedans. If we can figure out if one of mine is the same as yours, or if you can just swap the hole rear end (drum to drum) with one of mine. You can have it. Just need to get it to you. Maybe Fred will be able to come through Sacramento on his way home and pick it up and deliver it to you? Fred? ;D
So when you find out what yours is, let me know and I will will have Bob figure out what we have. Then we will deal with getting it to you!!!! ;D
Kim and Becky, all of the 6.75 rears are the same as far as bolting them in. The only diff is the gear ratio. There should be a metal tag under one of the cover bolts, the ratio is stamped on it. Most were 3:18, 3:40 and 3:55. Becky did you find out where the bolt came from and most importantly, how much damage was done?
Thank you Kim for the offer. I'll make googoo eyes at Fred to go by Sacramento. Fred... ::) :amazed: :hypno: :o :surprised: It's hard to do googoo eyes with the emoticons at hand. :lol:
Thank you 71PR. I didn't know that about the tag. I haven't ventured underneath yet because of my dilemma of: I don't have money to get what I need, and if I pull the rear apart that's when the HOA will say I need to get it back on the driveway before I can get what I need. That darn Arnold! >:(
I went out to see what rear ends I had. Let me tell you, they are heavy! LOL I have 2 (that I can find), and one is an automatic. I actually labeled it 'auto'!! This is when I wised up when tearing cars apart. I found one other one, ( before I started marking them) but I don't know what it is. I do know that hubby just pulled a stick shift rear end out of the grey car. I just don't know if this is is, or if he has it stashed somewhere else!
Here are the numbers. Maybe one of you guy's can tell us what we have here!!
On top of the pumpkin, D12W-4025-A
On the tag, top number = Maybe? and 0 V - T DJD the last letter may be an O though, not sure.
Bottom number = 18 6 7 1212A I'm not posetive on the 18 either. The tranny was almost upside down and I had to try to wedge it to where I could somewhat read the tag! In fact, I forgot to take the pry bar out! LOL
If this isn't a stick, I will ask hubby tonight, where he put the stick shift one!
I'll start with the bad news: When I opened the differential housing I saw right away that two ring gear pinion (?) bolts were missing and one more had its head sheared off. I found one bolt (the one in the dif. housing- duh.) and the decapitated head of the sheared one (I suspect that one will be a pack of fun to remove) but not the other whole bolt. there were a couple more bolts that were so beaten by the free bolts that they bent(!) while still in their places. lots of what looks like superficial damage to the ring gear and pan.
Now for the good news: The gears don't appear to be missing teeth or chunks of metal and they mesh pretty freely when the rear wheel is turned. Jerry from next door suggested that I replace the front seal as well as the pan gasket, on account of the whole differential (pumpkin) was covered in oil and grease. He told me to take that end of the driveshaft off was easier than removing the gas tank. We'll see... So I'm happy that I just need to replace some bolts (3/8 X 24 X 13/16 ), the seal, the gasket, and the pan. I still need to find Bolt X though...
1) the bolt that blew the whistle.
2) the scene of the crime.
3) the damage to the pan from the inside.
4) the gears.
maybe someone here has the bolts you need. I suggest that you use a cleaner of some kind to clean the Housing completely out to make sure that you dont have shavings in there. (and more then likely the one missing bolt is the shavings)
Prolly wouldn't hurt to put some red Lock Tite on the threads either. That might help prevent them from backing out. Hopefully there isn't any thread damage for the new bolts to go in.
Perfect time to go with a later 8 inch and not worry about these weak rear ends. It's an easy mod for the handy. The 6.75 was broken by a low power 4 banger! :surprised: I paid $70 for the rear at pick your part and $40 to have them welded up with my front springs cut in the deal ;D I did go with race specs but could have used it as is with 3.00 gears. :hangover:
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Kim, the rear you have is a 3:18, most likely an auto trans car, I suspect Becky has a 3:55 in the wagon. Most of the auto cars had a 3:18, auto wagons might have a 3:40, stick cars had 3:40 or 3:55, and stick shift wagons had 3:55's. Doesn't look like any real damage Becky, I can look this weekend for the bolts and cover you need, I think I have them in "stock"!! :lol: My inventory and location files leave a lot to be desired! :lol:
Funny you should say that Matt! Jerry suggested that too! Question: Is the pan what I measure to get what size the rear end is? The tag that was on the retaining bolt is long gone.
Quote from: blupinto on August 13, 2009, 09:16:40 PM
Question: Is the pan what I measure to get what size the rear end is? The tag that was on the retaining bolt is long gone.
No. Count the # of teeth on the ring gear and divide by # of teeth on the pinion. I suspect you will have 39 ring gear teeth divided by 11 pinion teeth = 3.54545454 or 3:55.
Thank you my Virginia friend! That would be cool. Let me know what I owe you. ;D Hopefully it wasn't my appalling driving that messed this up!
P.S. this stuuuuuuuuupid msn 9.6 dial-up bites. It takes forrrrrever to load any of these pages on the Pinto site. So I apologize if my answers aren't very prompt. hi-speed, here I come (one of these days!)
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Update time:
I was able to replace her bumpers and radiator and hubcaps since she's been down. She now sports the slotted Pinto caps and shiny bumpers plus a radiator that doesn't leak! YAY!!! Thank you Bob Faley! Her diff. is still not done and I think I need to adjust her parking brake while her rear end is still elevated. I'm just not in a hurry to do the adjustment because I've cooked in my own juices enough so I'm holding out for cooler temperatures. Yesterday Vista (not even a mile away from me) registered 102 degrees F. It's sizzling today too. At least it's not muggy heat.
I'm also thinking about renaming the lil' green wagon. I thought of War Wagon, but I think that's a member's screen name so I don't want to hijack that. She now sports a Dep. of Defense- Navy sticker on her windshield and a Norton AFB sticker on her new front bumper as well as her Army green paint. I cannot stand avocados anyway (funny that I live so close to the Avocado Belt!) but I do come from a military family so I'm thinking of calling her TankGirl. She's certainly tough. Any suggestions...?
Now I have a feeling that last paragraph is considered inane to some and I apologize but my cars (in my humble opinion) do have souls and souls need names. ;D
Now I'm waiting for a very special delivery from a very special Pinto Racing Virginian... :tgif: ;) ;D
Umm, one question! WHERE ARE THE PICS!!!!!!!!! (http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c164/dragonunlimited/Avatars/worthless_thread_wo_pics.gif)
In all seriousness, I'm happy you are working on the Bean/FA/Tank!!! ;D As far as the name, I"m just not sure about TankGirl. I like something with green in it. I really liked the green bean!! Or just the Bean!! Or you could do a mixture of tank and green and name it Tangerine!!!! :lol: ;D That is all I have for names!
I'm looking forward to seeing some pics soon!! :lost: ;D
How 'bout "NavyBean"? lol. I might just call her GreenBean again. At least I like those! lol. :D Or GI Green. Or ArmyDrab (too dowdy). If she was an automatic and had u-joint issues like my late blue '72 I'd name her Forrest Clunk. :P
Becky,
How about "Mean Green"? Sounds military-ish ;D
Dwayne :)
Quote from: dga57 on August 28, 2009, 09:29:38 PM
Becky,
How about "Mean Green"? Sounds military-ish ;D
Dwayne :)
Hey, that is a good one Becky! Maybe it could be the Lean Mean Green Pinto Machine!!! :D
Hey Kim!
I like that even better!
Dwayne :smile:
That's quite a mouthful... but I like it! Mean Green for short. She's nice to me but she looks mean... in a rough-around-the-edges way. I'm so grateful for the dry weather... my three car babies are still clean! No dewfall means no dust from the nearby dirt road to coat the cars. The Water Nazis don't like us to wash our cars ourselves so the less I have to wash 'em the better! ;D
Or, how about it being Army green like a Jeep, and it being a Pinto, it could be a PEEP! :lol: Funny that I mention that, as I now recall my dad telling me a story about a buddy who had an old Willys Jeep that had it's flat-head four replaced with a Pinto 2.0.
Quote from: douglasskemp on August 28, 2009, 11:14:23 PM
Or, how about it being Army green like a Jeep, and it being a Pinto, it could be a PEEP! :lol: Funny that I mention that, as I now recall my dad telling me a story about a buddy who had an old Willys Jeep that had it's flat-head four replaced with a Pinto 2.0.
Now THAT's what I call a Gov't Mule! lol. A hybrid if there ever was one!
Peep... a) a chick noise (the bird not the woman) and b) a sugar-coated delight that'll probably be the death of me if the gummi bears don't get me first! lol.
Kimmy, what pictures do you want? She doesn't look any different than you've already seen... unless you want to see her new "shoe bling"- her hubcaps. Alright I'll take pix tomorrow... ;D
I choose B
Quote from: blupinto on August 28, 2009, 11:58:11 PMPeep... a) a chick noise (the bird not the woman) and b) a sugar-coated delight that'll probably be the death of me if the gummi bears don't get me first!
Ha me too! And mine is gummi WORMS. ;D
Yum... actually it really doesn't matter... bears, worms, sharks, frogs YUMMMM!!!), even the gummi Pet Rat... they're gonna get me! My latest fetish (besides Pintos and The Beatles) is Ginger Bears from Australia. They're at Cost Plus World Market and they're SO good- but addictive. They have the "right" gummi consistency too. I also love Swedish Fish.
Doug, I like your Mustang II AND your style... ;)
Quote from: blupinto on August 29, 2009, 12:27:02 AMDoug, I like your Mustang II AND your style... ;)
Thanks for the compliment, I like it too, and I will like it even more when I get it fixed up the way I want it.
Wait...I have style? ;D
Well, Kimmy, here's your pictures that I promised but I can't promise they'll do the car justice...
1) The rear bumper
2) The front bumper
3) Another shot of the rear. You can also see one of her hubcaps.
4) Another project. Hey! How dit THAT get in here?! lol. ::)
Hey! A luck itty bitty black kitty! :afro:
I love black cats! :afro:
(Maybe I should get one of those "Mercury Pintos" in black! ;) )
Quote from: dholvrsn on August 30, 2009, 05:31:17 AM
Hey! A luck itty bitty black kitty! :afro:
I love black cats! :afro:
(Maybe I should get one of those "Mercury Pintos" in black! ;) )
:D Then you'll love it here at Crackerbox Palace! I have two all-black cats (well on IS a juvenile! lol) and two black and white (tuxedo) cats. I love 'em whatever color they are but the blackalicious ones seem to have the most purrrsonality. (okay stop throwing the tomatoes! I couldn't resist!)
Now getting that black Pinto/Bobcat... there's that one in the classifieds. In this car's case, BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL! ;D
The pics are great!! I didn't realize you had a FRD with a dented fender! I may be able to help you with the O part!! LOL Email me your address again and I'll ship you the O!!! I may be able to help on the fender part too, but will have to wait for the next car show! LOL
Kimmy you're too funny! You're not the only one who noticed the O missing! lol. I have a fender that'll fit (thank you Bob F!) but I think it can be popped out. For now it's ok. I wouldn't want to run around with one light blue fender would I? lol. Well... it WOULD match some of her interior parts (light blue door pulls/armrests, possibly a steering wheel... ::)) ;D
This talk of yummy sweets is killing me!!! lol. Okay, back to the lil' green cutie.
Today, thanks to 71pintoracer's help, I was able to replace the ring gear bolts (after I Loctited them!), cleaned the inside of the pumpkin, and put her new pan gasket and cover on. (yes I have pictures Kimmy! lol. ;D) All I need to do now is take off the driveshaft and replace the pinion seal and the gear oil and she's ready to rock! I think while she's still semi suspended I'm going to adjust her parking brake. Ok here's the promised pix (not too exciting... sorry.)
Very nice Becky!!! Bet your excited to get rolling again!!! ;D
Quote from: blupinto on August 30, 2009, 11:10:06 PM
Kimmy you're too funny! You're not the only one who noticed the O missing! lol. I have a fender that'll fit (thank you Bob F!) but I think it can be popped out. For now it's ok. I wouldn't want to run around with one light blue fender would I? lol. Well... it WOULD match some of her interior parts (light blue door pulls/armrests, possibly a steering wheel... ::)) ;D
i would say any girl that can fix her own rear end can probably paint a fender to. glad to see your gettin things fixed blu. your the GIRL... :amazed: ;D
You're much too kind Mr. FryeFarm! lol. The whole car needs to be painted, as she's got lots of primer patches the same way a pinto horse has color patches... big and blotchy! lol. Then there's the cowl... No, I think I'll keep her fender on and let someone else have the good fenders. I think the dent gives Moxie TroubleMaker (another name I'm rolling in my head) character! Anyway, fixing some things on her is one thing... painting her well is another! I can mop a mean floor and wipe off a counter, but COOKING... (single Pinto fellas beware! lol! :lol:) Than you for the compliment, though! ;D
She lives! My lil' green Moxie ArmyBrat (another name I'm playing with) has her oil, seals, bolts, etc. Before I fed her her gear oil I put my pinkie into her filler hole (I've never done this before, so I wanted to get used to it- to feel her oil level) and felt something rattly! Lo and behold, her other bolt! I thought it got ground up. It made its way through, what, three gears and their teeth (without chipping a one!) and ended up just inside the filler hole. Good thing I put my pinkie in there! lol. Once I got a grip of it using needle-nose pliers it came out without a fight. I felt like a surgeon who extracted a bullet or shell fragment from a soldier and saved the soldier's life. (note: to those who are veterans or know a veteran or soldier I don't mean any disrespect.) I was jubilant nonetheless. The only problem she has now is there's a faulty connection either on the battery or pertaining to the battery. She did start and I did drive her around the neighborhood- no leaks (THANK YOU JIM 71PINTORACER!!!) and no horrific noises.
Glad to hear your getting along good with her blu. Cant believe you got the bolt out thru the filler hole. May have missed your calling.. Dr Blu your need in surgery. And bring your needle nose pliers please. :lol: :lol: :lol:
WAY TO GO, BECKY!!! Congratulations on getting her back on the road. I know you've missed driving her!
Dwayne :smile:
You all are too nice! Thank you.
Two days later I think, "why didn't I take a picture of that amazingly well-traveled bolt?" but like usual I'm two days late and a few dollars short. I'm still amazed about the whole thing. She's ready to rock, but no gas to roll. :( C'mon people! Buy some Pinto parts! lol. ;)
Congrats Becky! That's so awesome that you got her back together! :)
Chuck :afro:
OK here's a question for you folks who know your manual transmissions. Is it me or is it Green Meanie when I want to shift into first from neutral and the stick can't seem to find first (or second, third or fourth for that matter) and the clutch pedal is all the way to the floor? This is from a dead stop (as in a parking lot). She shifts to second, third and fourth easily, and she's not always difficult getting her into first from a dead stop. It seems to be happening more lately though. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thank you in advance.
Quote from: blupinto on September 17, 2009, 11:09:19 PM
OK here's a question for you folks who know your manual transmissions. Is it me or is it Green Meanie when I want to shift into first from neutral and the stick can't seem to find first (or second, third or fourth for that matter) and the clutch pedal is all the way to the floor? This is from a dead stop (as in a parking lot). She shifts to second, third and fourth easily, and she's not always difficult getting her into first from a dead stop. It seems to be happening more lately though. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thank you in advance.
clutch disc getting worn out. most likely. could also be the cable has stretched. try to get it adjusted down at the belhousing where the cable is anchored. it may help but if the disc is worn you are just postponing the inevitable
:'( :'( :'( WAAAAAAH!!! :'( :'( :'(
Well, Green Meanie is down again- in fact it's deja vu all over again. Guess what happened to her differential pan from Virginia...?
No, this isn't the previous wound... :-\ :P >:(
Time to get an 8 in rear ? lol
I can't believe it happened again!!! So the bolts came loose again? Is there supposed to be something that stops the bolts from coming out, and that something is missing?
Are you going to be able to fix it again, or did it do worse damage then the last time?
Ooooh this is so frustrating!!! When I replaced the broken/missing bolts with the ones Jim (71PintoRacer) kindly send me I cleaned all the ones going in and applied Permatex medium strength Threadlocker Blue Gel (like Loctite I've been told) before inserting them back in. I tightened them as tight as I physically could, and none of my Pinto repair manuals says anything about torquing the bolts in. >:( I haven't pulled the pan yet so who knows what I'll find. The good news is she never failed to roll and I had her towed home last night (the dogs and I took Meanie to ther dog park) so hopefully (good JuJu and crossed fingers please! ;D) there's no gear damage.
Today I went to the Oceanside Ecology Wrecking yard. Ohhh there were Sooooo many so-called "clunkers" dumped there. Thanks President Obama! NOT!!! There was not one Pinto or Mustang II there- correction: I saw the poor lil' '71 on the flatbed semi to be taken on her Last Ride to wherever cars get crushed and they go to the Great Highway In The Sky. Yeah, so I cried a little watching that hulk take her away for good. So what!? :'(
In desperation I decided to go to the Ecology in Chula Juana (Chula Vista) and lo and behold! A '73 Runabout with the Sport Accent package in white with orange trim. Poor thing must've been rotting in someone's backyard for almost two decades. The vinyl roof on top was all but flaked off and the roof was rusting. She had the sunroof and pop-out windows and this still-luxurious orange almost shag carpet. The differential pan and the bolts were similar so I grabbed 'em. I also tried to grab a rear valance for Carolina Boy but the eejits that run Ecology wanted WAY too much, and I didn't have enough to get it, after all the work I did to remove it. >:( >:( >:( It turns out Ecology's having a 50% off sale Sat. and Sun. and if I knew that I would've gone Sunday and Robert would have both valances. They tax the crap out of these used parts! :P Sorry Robert. If I can afford the gas Sunday I'll try again. At least I got the pan and some bolts. ;)
Becky! I can't believe your bad luck! :( I have never seen that problem and I built and used those rears in my dirt track cars for years. My spec book says 45-60 ft/lbs. I think I would use red high strength loc-tite this time! :P
Let me know if I can do anything to help get the green meanie back on the road. :)
Have you got any news on your rear end Becky? Well, not YOUR rear end, your car's!!! LOL ;D
:lol: :lol: :lol: You're killing me Kim! lol. No, I've felt unwell all day but I plan on getting under her tomorrow and having deja vu all over again! I found that sedan and wagon pumpkin lids (!) are the same size- at least '73s. I got ring gear bolts too. I think I'm ready for her to be an automatic. :P I know- that last sentence was a non sequitur. I read what you were doing to Shaggy and had to chime in. ;D
Quote from: blupinto on October 04, 2009, 11:45:01 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: You're killing me Kim! lol. No, I've felt unwell all day but I plan on getting under her tomorrow and having deja vu all over again! I found that sedan and wagon pumpkin lids (!) are the same size- at least '73s. I got ring gear bolts too. I think I'm ready for her to be an automatic. :P I know- that last sentence was a non sequitur. I read what you were doing to Shaggy and had to chime in. ;D
Yah, and changing the pedals from stick to auto is a piece of cake!!! Thanks to Fred for letting me know how to do it so easily!!!! ;D ;D
I took her pan off (the hole had the bolt head's corners cut out!) and it turns out two of her original bolts were rattling around and a third in the ring gear was real loose. I am happy to report the Virginia bolts were still pretty firm in their places. I REALLY tightened all the bolts and put the new pan on. The hardest part of this job was removing the gasket off the "new" pan. Wish me and Green Meanie well! Maybe her repair will last two months! lol. :-\ :P ;)
P.S. The pictire on the right is Meanie's original pan; The one on the right is her Virginia pan. Poor pans. :'(
Did you put high strength loc tite on them this time??
Here is sending good ju ju to the green meanie and for a long rear end life!! ;D :tgif: (You all know this guy is holding a sign that stands for Thank God It's Ford!! Right?? LOL ) ;D ;D ;D
I really lucked out because, while the pan is once again shot the gears, teeth, etc. are intact. I must count my blessings. ;D Er, no Kimmy, I didn't. I spent my last $9.00 on gas for the Rodeo. I did really load those threads up on the blue stuff, though. I also put my weight on those wrenches! (the original bolts have a 1/2 head, while the Virginia bolts have a 5/8 head- which my dumb tool kit has no socket for but does have an open-end wrench for. ) :laugh: Thank you for good JuJu Kimmy!!!
Dr Blu im so sorry you have to be called back in for surgury. sounds like your luck runs about like mine. Your not going around blowing the tires off at every red light are you? :smile: Shame your not close love to help out. hope you get her back on the road soon. if i can help you out any way let me know. would be glad to hit the local junk yards and find something if i can.
It's alright my Frye Friend! She's put back together (for now!) but I haven't test-driven her yet. My neighbor across the street suggested that, because I'm not letting off that clutch slowly and she jumps, that might be why the bolts are shaking out. Believe me the clutch thing is not intentional. It's too bad I didn't learn to drive a stick shift when my mind was young and malleable. Now I'm a little afraid to drive her. There's something I'm not doing or something... It wouldn't hurt to save those differential pans though! Thank you. I'd love for any of my Pinto Friends to come over- mostly to BS though... ;D
Good Ju Ju headed your way, my friend!!! I'm sure the Green Meanie will be just fine under your care!
Dwayne :smile:
if you wanted a nother pan with a hole in it i would have sent the on i have. :look: :lol: :cheesy_p: any how gool luck with the repair this time.
phil
I'm wondering if you shouldn't just use all new Grade-8 bolts and torque them exactly to manual specs.
Phil: You might as well send it over- I'll just call my hole-in-the-pan collection another hobby! :lol:
DHolv: I looked in all my Pinto repair books (Chilton's, Haynes, Clymer) and I found no torque specifications. I have a feeling I'm doing something wrong but I don't know what.
Jim (71PR): Thank you for sending the pan and bolts and offering to help again. The so-called "Virginia Bolts" are holding up well- despite my initial doubts.
Oops! How could I forget: Kim and Dwayne and others: Thank you for the good JuJu! It will come in handy! ;D
Blu its going to be hard to really get the 50 to 60lbs on them with a wrench dont think you could do it. If you cant find a torque wrench to do it. then get a 3/8 drive breaker bar and give them just a good firm pull.
The bolts and pan have already been installed, but I can tell you- I didn't use a torque wrench (I didn't know what to torque the bolts to) but my tightening them did pull me off the ground (I'm 200somethingmumble) so hopefully they're on to stay. ;D
Quote from: 71pintoracer on October 02, 2009, 08:55:10 PM
My spec book says 45-60 ft/lbs.
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I agree w/ David, thats a lot for an open end wrench. Do any of the parts houses out there have a loan-a-tool program? You could borrow a torque wrench and the socket you need. I don't think it's your driving that's the problem, I have hammered the bejeezes out of those little rears w/ no problems like you are having.
I have a couple torque wrenches- I just didn't have the specs til after I put the diff. cover back on and filled the pumpkin with oil... and, well, I probably should be arrested for cruelty to a car... I panic and let the clutch out too fast- not fast enough for Meanie to stall right away, but enough to where she's fighting to stall and fighting to stay running. The whole performance makes the neighbors stare in horror. :-\ On a positive note, I am getting better. :o :P :)
Ok blu heres good way to take off push the right foot down till it stops slide left foot to the left till pedal comes free. :lol: :lol: well thats how i do it anyway.
Quote from: blupinto on August 28, 2009, 11:58:11 PM
Now THAT's what I call a Gov't Mule! lol. A hybrid if there ever was one!
Peep... a sugar-coated delight that'll probably be the death of me if the gummi bears don't get me first! lol.
I enjoy the marshmellow peeps as well. Stick them in the microwave and watch them puff up & catch fire!
Matty, you're one sick lil' dude. :D
Yes, I am... Like mother, like son lol... She taught me the art of peep microwaving lol
Can anybody shed light on this? I have noticed lately that when I drive Meanie now and then the gearshift won't go in the #1 slot when I'm starting from a standstill. The gearshift goes into the #2, #3 and #4 positions fine but sometimes #1 is like trying to walk through a wall. Eventually, usually with force, I'm able to get the shifter in #1 but I'm afraid I might be harming the transmission. Sometimes there's gear grinding- not much, thank goodness, but dreadful all the same. Could my clutch be failing, or is it a clutch cable adjustment that needs doing, or can it be something else? My Chilton's book says only so much...It would be great to have a mechanically-inclined person familiar with Pintos guide me through fixing this problem. The last thing I need is to be stranded because the clutch failed. On a related note the '73 Owner's Manual tells me to put the clutch pedal all the way down to the floor, and that's what I've been doing. Thank you for any help you can give me.If it's a simple case of adjusting the cable I might need step-by-step instructions til I know what I'm doing. ???
Your situation sounds EXACTLY like a problem I had on my 1985 Omni GLH Turbo. While I know it is front wheel drive and a Dodge instead of a Ford I am sure the same basics would apply.
When my pedal when clear to the floor turns out the cable was stretched too much. Put a new cable on her & she shifted perfect once again.
But why only when I put it into 1st from a stop? According to Chilton's the cable can be adjusted but there's a locknut and another nut on the cable, and what if the cable IS stretched to its limit? Is this something to where I have to remove the clutch to replace the cable?
Matty, thank you for the imput. Hopefully this will be something I can do myself. Any imput or advice is welcome. ;D
Yup, exact same thing. I thought I needed a clutch or worse, a new tranny but it was just the cable. The cable is mounted externally. There should be a lever on the outside that the cable hooks on to. I don't know where that would be since my Harold II is an automatic, but if you follow the cable going from the clutch pedal you should be able to easily find it...
BTW, you can try to adjust it but more than likely if the cable is original there is a good chance it's stretched to the max.
I have located her cable, and where the adjustment nuts are. I'll be kind of busy tomorrow but I'll look to see if there's a clip. If it's maxed out (the spring near the adjusting nuts are looks like it's mooshed together) where can I locate another cable on the, er, cheap? (hopefully this won't result in a barrage of abuse!) lol. ;D You might've cured my Green Meanie, Matty. Once again my hero. :)
Quote from: blupinto on November 16, 2009, 01:29:23 AM
I have located her cable, and where the adjustment nuts are. I'll be kind of busy tomorrow but I'll look to see if there's a clip. If it's maxed out (the spring near the adjusting nuts are looks like it's mooshed together) where can I locate another cable on the, er, cheap? (hopefully this won't result in a barrage of abuse!) lol. ;D You might've cured my Green Meanie, Matty. Once again my hero. :)
Becky ,
The Chiltons manual I have for 71-72 cars only says the cables with clips were for cars made before October 1970. 71-74 cars had the double nut arrangment.The 1975-76 cars had a Nylon nut and a Different Bell housing cable holder with a Slot cut through to the Hole for the cable.
Good luck finding this cable, It's not available through a few sources I've checked.
Pintosopher
Good luck trying to find a cable, new or used!
Becky, here are some things to try, lets diagnose first.
With the car at idle, trans in neutral, let the clutch out, push it to the floor and count to three. Now try to shift into reverse, it should go in with no grinding.
If it does, adjustment is OK, could be a syncronizer problem in the trans.
Also, with the car in first and holding the brake, ease the clutch up until you feel it just start to engage. The pedal should be just about halfway up. If it is close to the floor or way up you need to adjust it.
Lastly is the "free play". When you first step on the pedal, there should be about 1/2" of free movement before you feel resistance on the pedal.
The reason it's harder to get into first gear is because of the lower ratio. My Dad taught me to shift into third, then go to first, and shift into second before going into reverse.
Hope this helps, gotta run, I'm at work sneaking some "Pinto Time in on my laptop!! :lol: :lol:
Dumb Question, Will a 1976 2.3 Squire Wagon Clutch Cable work???
http://www2.partstrain.com/store/details/Ford/Pinto/Beck_Arnley/Clutch_Cable/1976/Squire/4_Cyl_2-dot-3L/093-6010.html (http://www2.partstrain.com/store/details/Ford/Pinto/Beck_Arnley/Clutch_Cable/1976/Squire/4_Cyl_2-dot-3L/093-6010.html)
Or I found a 1974 2.0 Pinto Clutch Cable http://www2.partstrain.com/store/?Ntt=clutch+cable&x=31&y=18&N=0 (http://www2.partstrain.com/store/?Ntt=clutch+cable&x=31&y=18&N=0)
Quote from: pintogirl on November 16, 2009, 01:40:12 PM
Dumb Question, Will a 1976 2.3 Squire Wagon Clutch Cable work???
http://www2.partstrain.com/store/details/Ford/Pinto/Beck_Arnley/Clutch_Cable/1976/Squire/4_Cyl_2-dot-3L/093-6010.html (http://www2.partstrain.com/store/details/Ford/Pinto/Beck_Arnley/Clutch_Cable/1976/Squire/4_Cyl_2-dot-3L/093-6010.html)
Or I found a 1974 2.0 Pinto Clutch Cable http://www2.partstrain.com/store/?Ntt=clutch+cable&x=31&y=18&N=0 (http://www2.partstrain.com/store/?Ntt=clutch+cable&x=31&y=18&N=0)
Kim,
The cable for the 76 2.3l will be sized for the different Bell Housing and possibly different throwout arm used on the 2.3l. The Sheath and cable length ratios could be different, along with the Adjustment nut that only fits the 75 & later Bell Housing cable loop.
My best guess is that we'll need to have cables custom made for the 71-73 cars, or :hypno: switch to hydraulic throwout bearings and/or Master/Slave cylinders (Tooo Costly!)
This is , of course , assuming someone hasn't modified a 75 or later cable to work with the early 2.0l setup.
Any takers?
Pintosopher
Quote from: pintosopher on November 16, 2009, 02:01:12 PM
Kim,
The cable for the 76 2.3l will be sized for the different Bell Housing and possibly different throwout arm used on the 2.3l. The Sheath and cable length ratios could be different, along with the Adjustment nut that only fits the 75 & later Bell Housing cable loop.
My best guess is that we'll need to have cables custom made for the 71-73 cars, or :hypno: switch to hydraulic throwout bearings and/or Master/Slave cylinders (Tooo Costly!)
This is , of course , assuming someone hasn't modified a 75 or later cable to work with the early 2.0l setup.
Any takers?
Pintosopher
Ok, but what about the 74 2.0 clutch cable?
Quote from: pintogirl on November 16, 2009, 02:12:20 PM
Ok, but what about the 74 2.0 clutch cable?
Well, since 74 was a Crossover year for engines (2.0 &2.3L) it would depend on which bell housing,cable with throwout arm was used. I have a 75 style bell housing with the slot in my spares but it's not been checked for a 2.0L fitment
It's about as confusing as 74 motor mounts for the two engines ???
Pintosopher
Quote from: pintogirl on November 16, 2009, 02:12:20 PM
Ok, but what about the 74 2.0 clutch cable?
Kim ,
See New thread, Old Topic ,New solution a clutching problem
Pintosopher
"...I looked in all my Pinto repair books (Chilton's, Haynes, Clymer) and I found no torque specifications . I have a feeling I'm doing something wrong but I don't know what..."
Becky take a trip to the local library and see if they have any "MOTOR MANUAL" books. These are a line of manuals that are not availale to the general public but are a true god-send to the professional mechanic.
If you have a County Public Library near you it might be a good thing to check out.
Also. On tightening those bolts. If you do not have a torque wrench then use a 'box' wrench and put as much into it as you can.
Yesterday I adjusted the locknuts and adjusting nut on the clutch cable. The Chilton's book said to leave a space of 1/4 inch between the adjusting nut and the clutch housing. The adjusting nut was flush against the housing til I adjusted it. Then for laughs I thought I'd check the transmission fluid level- and it was practically empty! After replacing the gear oil I drove her today and the clutch pedal feels different, and I've accidentally put her in the wrong gear twice.but had one time the difficulty in getting her into 1st.
I'm without a computer for now so I'll try to drop in anytime I can. I already miss you guys and I thank you for your help. :)
Becky i just finished refurbishing a laptop what ails your computer? anything i can do to help? hope all goes well with the car though. I dont know what to tell you about the clutch. or the trans problem you have. Im a computer geek first. car nut second lol. I code and rebuild computers.
Oh, 75Bob, that dumb 'puter needs more than refurbishing- it need resurrecting. I lost my temper on it because it gave me hours of virtual head banging on the wall for naught. Oh well, time for a more efficiend model and NO PHONE MODEM!!! Never again! >:( I will transfer the data on the hard drive to a disc to put on the new 'puter whenever I'll get one. Wish I were a computer geek. The 'puter might not be dead now...
In other news... I drove Meanie around again and noticed something a little disconcerting. She popped out of reverse twice and the third time I kept my hand on the shifter. Is this normal? My backing-up history in this car is minimal so for all I know this is normal. There's also a tad of grinding. :-\
Grinding and popping out of gear is not normal. :P I have several transmissions, come on over and get one. :)
Quote from: blupinto on November 19, 2009, 03:49:54 PM
Oh, 75Bob, that dumb 'puter needs more than refurbishing- it need resurrecting. I lost my temper on it because it gave me hours of virtual head banging on the wall for naught. Oh well, time for a more efficiend model and NO PHONE MODEM!!! Never again! >:( I will transfer the data on the hard drive to a disc to put on the new 'puter whenever I'll get one. Wish I were a computer geek. The 'puter might not be dead now...
What did you do to it becky?
I, ah, er... pulled the plug that screws into the back of the 'puter. Lotsa little wires and such came out with it... ::) I was a bad girl. No. I was a MAD girl! >:( >:( >:( Good Riddance! I miss hanging out with y'all though. That is my only regret!
Makes me think of assembling and trouble shooting computers at a place that was called Compaq when I started working there and was called HP when they closed the plant.
Since then I bought a Dual G5 and an iBook. My Mom got an iMac for Christmas and my nieces got a Mac Mini for another Christmas.
I haven't posted on this thread for awhile, but it definitely falls in the category of project.
I drained and removed the radiator this morning and noticed a couple things: 1) the coolant was brown with rust, and 2) every now and then a darkish "glob" would pop out of the petcock. The fluid also had an off smell, and while coolant doesn't have a very pleasant scent to humans this smelled, well, different. Then my socket wrench extension dropped (why not?) into the pan of drained coolant. After I rinsed the extension off I noticed it was oily and it left a residue on the cloth I dried it on. By this time I have a dreadful hunch. Then I looked at the pan of fluid and it had a definite oily look to it. Well, that would explain my rapid oil loss. It might also explain why the radiator solder split. This has been one of the most rottenest days of my life. It wasn't enough that BFofA (take a wild guess what that stands for!) sent me a certified letter Notice Of Intent To Accelerate on my mortgage if I don't come up with a little over $4,500 by February 10. This after I contacted them about my hardship a month ago and applied for the Making Home Affordable thing. Naturally my settlement is nowhere NEAR to arriving, and by the time I do get it it might be too late.
I'm sorry for adding the last bit about my troubles. I just got that stupid thing this morning- and I DID send them a mortgage payment at the beginning of this month.
Anyway... back to Meanie's trouble- I'm guessing blown head gasket or cracked head. The good news is I have another 2.0 that, according to BadWaterBob, is a recently-rebuilt one. The bad news is, I don't have a cherrypicker and callot afford to rent one. Due to my elbow injury I should have help to do a swap. Pray for me. :'(
Quote from: blupinto on January 16, 2010, 03:00:19 PM
I haven't posted on this thread for awhile, but it definitely falls in the category of project.
I drained and removed the radiator this morning and noticed a couple things: 1) the coolant was brown with rust, and 2) every now and then a darkish "glob" would pop out of the petcock. The fluid also had an off smell, and while coolant doesn't have a very pleasant scent to humans this smelled, well, different. Then my socket wrench extension dropped (why not?) into the pan of drained coolant. After I rinsed the extension off I noticed it was oily and it left a residue on the cloth I dried it on. By this time I have a dreadful hunch. Then I looked at the pan of fluid and it had a definite oily look to it. Well, that would explain my rapid oil loss. It might also explain why the radiator solder split. This has been one of the most rottenest days of my life. It wasn't enough that BFofA (take a wild guess what that stands for!) sent me a certified letter Notice Of Intent To Accelerate on my mortgage if I don't come up with a little over $4,500 by February 10. This after I contacted them about my hardship a month ago and applied for the Making Home Affordable thing. Naturally my settlement is nowhere NEAR to arriving, and by the time I do get it it might be too late.
I'm sorry for adding the last bit about my troubles. I just got that stupid thing this morning- and I DID send them a mortgage payment at the beginning of this month.
Anyway... back to Meanie's trouble- I'm guessing blown head gasket or cracked head. The good news is I have another 2.0 that, according to BadWaterBob, is a recently-rebuilt one. The bad news is, I don't have a cherrypicker and callot afford to rent one. Due to my elbow injury I should have help to do a swap. Pray for me. :'(
Sorry to hear the News Becky,
I had the same problem with my Original engine in My Pinto when it was a Stock motor. Two weeks later I found my Race engine in a street 73 sedan , the original builder told me where to find it (Estate sale. long story) so I popped for the whole car at 450 bucks and got a Bluprinted race motor With Dual carbs and lots of spare goodies ! Karma has a way of righting itself , trust me , I have had too many examples of Divine Justice just leave me in awe.
The Banking thing is just static in the broadcast of Life. You'll be hearing your music , SIRIUS style soon!
Best wishes ,
Pintosopher ... :angel: always hoisting something :drunk:
Becky I have 2 eng. hoist would gladly loan 1 but your there and I am here. Fred :)
Thank you Joe. Your words give me a glimmer of hope.
I try not to air my personal laundry here but today was a doozy! The stupid bank sent me the Making Home Affordable checklist (and papers needing signatures) just yesterday. When I was in similar trouble in '02 Countrywide reworked the loan and HUD paid what I was behind on, on the stipulation that it's paid a) when I sell the house; b) when I refinance;or c) whenever- I can send monthly payments. It's a lien or debt on the house. So why is BFofA being @%$$^& about it? They know I'm employed by the State of California, and the State of California has a number of employees (a vast majority!) that have had an almost 15% paycut (I don't mean to minimalize anyone else's pain. I know I'm still fortunate to an extent). I'm not a morning person, so this was a shock to the system!
Ok ok enough bellyaching! Joe, blown head gasket or cracked head? or is it hard to determine? The car seemed to run pretty strong (for a '73 4-banger!). I saw no water in the oil (as checked by dipstick) but I realize that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I need some he-men! That rebuilt 2.0 is heavy! lol.
Fred, it's really time for you to all move over here. SD County has the bestest Pintos... ;D
Bonsall or Fallbrook. Then I could come and a) harass you and play with or steal-I mean look at your Pintos, and b) help with your packing parts to ship. You live too far away! ;D
As for the coolant, it's really thickish so it's sadly not just a couple drops in it. :(
Becky,
It could be that the "goop" isn't oil, but a sludge of contaminants and possibly a cooling system sealant additive. First Flush out the system, New hoses (Goop= could be decaying hoses) and repair or replace that radiator. Fill with new coolant . Then a pressure test to see if the system is airtight.
Let's not jump to conclusions about the head gasket or head just yet. If it overheats immediately, then we must do a leakdown test on the cylinders. Compression test to follow.
Save the hoist, it might not be needed.
Pintosopher
I DID put a tube of the powdery Stop Leak a couple weeks ago. I added half a jar, as per the instructions, of the black pellety stop-leak too. Am I stupid? The leak wasn't nearly as bad as it is now! Now that I'm equipped with a computer I can take digital pictures again. More later. I hope you're right, Joe! I sure could use some good news!
Well, not much of an update but encourasging news...
With the torrents that dumped on California this week there is one bright spot: the Focus door weatherstripping that went on both Wildfire and Meanie's rear hatches kept the water out pretty well! There was a teent bit of damp under the carpet and astroturf but without the Focus seal there would be buckets of water sitting on that metal. Meanie's door drains did their job. Wildfire's driver-side door had plugging issues. A little stick and the water came out!
I also got my Fab Fords entry form today so I need some good JuJu to get Meanie ready for April! I think the people who come to look at the cars will get a kick out of her astroturf interior. ;D
I took the radiator to a radiator repair place today to see if the thing was fixable. The guy told me the reason it split was because it had a "quick-weld" or something like that. In other words, a Mickey-Mouse Band-Aid job. He said he can do that it'll be only $40 or I can have it done "right"- where he takes the tank off, cleans out the water jackets (?) or whatever it is beneath the radiator fins and reattach the tank... $75. To those experienced in radiator repair... does this sound kosher? It would have a 90 day warranty to boot. Should I do it? (also a great Tanya Tucker song from the late 70s.) ;D I really want the car to go to Knotts. I would also be replacing the hoses.
sounds like a better option to getting it fixed.
The way I see it, if you don't get it done right the first time you will have to get it done right the second time. Save yourself the time, hassle & money by just getting it done right the first time.
Becky,
I think you'll have more peace of mind knowing you fixed it right. Cough up the extra bucks if you can... it will be worth it.
Dwayne :smile:
Phil, what do you mean?
Matt, I agree- get it done right the first time. My question is, does what this guy says make sense?
Sure does... That will make sure no crap is plugging up the tubes in the radiator.
Pardon the pun, but I just don't want to be hosed!
Groan :rolleye: :rolleye: :rolleye:
Becky i would let him rod out the core. it will make it work much better, then he can pressure test it make sure you can get to knotts, over heating or leaking not good while traveling. oh and by the way the snowmen are coming back friday night.
Yes- that's what he called it- Rodding the core or something! Ok I'll do it!
Goody! My fingers are bored! (alas, poor snowmen! lol.) :lol:
i ment geting it redone was the best option and cheaper than a new one. sorry for the confusion.
I have some of the dearest people as friends. I am so very fortunate...
My dog-park friend Patty made a monetary gift to me, saying she knew I was struggling and also knew how hard it is being a woman alone. She doesn't want it paid back, but I'll find a way to repay her kindness. This gift freed up a little money to fix the radiator properly. I had it (the radiator) sent in to be rodded and repaired. Since I had the radiator out anyway, I went ahead and changed Meanie's oil and replaced her hoses. One thing had me worried: was the thermostat bad? After installing the radiator I started the old girl up. She was reluctant but soon fired up. I was told if the hose is warm after the engine is good and warm, then you're good. If the engine is nice and warm but ther hose is cool then you have a problem. The hose was warm! The coolant was flowing! YAY!!! Tomorrow I'll look at her plugs. I'll be getting her a new radiator cap too. ;D
That is awesome Becky!! I'm glad things are turning around for you and Meanie! JuJu is good!!! ;D ;D
See Kimmy? Your JuJu is as strong as mine! Keep up the good work! Oh, and Thank You! :D
While talking to my neighbor next door (the wife of the mechanic who worked on Wildfire and Rodeo Girl) I came up with a very cute plan for Meanie at Knotts. You'll see when Show Day arrives! lol. :amazed: :surprised: :o :look: ;D
So glad to know that Meanie lives!!!
Dwayne :smile:
Thats awesome becky, glad to hear your able to get her goin.
I know what your doing!!!! (singing in a hahahhahha way) LOL!! :lol: ;D ;D Ok, I actually have an idea of what you are doing!!! ;D
Don't worry, I won't tell!!! ;D
Hee Hee... you all will get a kick out of it! lol.
She (Meanie) got new sparkplugs and radiator cap today. My mechanic neighbor mentioned something about replacing points too. I guess these are in the distributor. Someone please enlighten me. ??? :read: :P
Becky, points have a lot to do with how well your car runs, and they can get out of adjustment just by normal wear. They need to be adjusted about every 3K miles and replaced after 12K. When they wear, the gap gets smaller and that affects the strength of the spark at the plugs and also changes the ignition timing a little bit. See why everyone wants electronic ignition? A petronix would be a good thing to put on your wish list.
I'm just unsure exactly what points are. Kimmy circled some stuff in red in another thread but I'm really clueless. I can remove a gas tank but have no clue to what points in a distributor are... ???
I hate points. Thank goodness for electronic ignition. Consider upgrading to the later style distributor and control module (EEC-IV if my memory serves me right). Or you could use a Pertronix type that replaces the points with a magnetic pickup (same concept that found it's way through the factory into my pony).
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No can do chuck, the 2.0 never had EEC-IV so it's petronix or points!
Come on Becky, you can do it! I'll walk you through it. :P :-\ ???
OK Jim you asked for it! I'll experiment on the distributor on the engine I got from Bob. Thank you for your patience in advance! lol. ;D
Good luck and good ju-ju to you both, my friends!!! Let me know how it turns out!
Dwayne :smile:
Quote from: 71pintoracer on February 05, 2010, 07:36:18 PM
No can do chuck, the 2.0 never had EEC-IV so it's petronix or points!
Come on Becky, you can do it! I'll walk you through it. :P :-\ ???
Bummer. Pertronix it is, then. I don't have much experience with that 2.oh, The only one I ever had was in a parts car (a rod was hanging out of a hole in the block). Most of my Pinto's have been 2.3's. I like the ignition in mine. It's been trouble free. 6 years, 17k miles and all I've done is cap, rotor, wires and 2 sets of plugs. Never touched the pickup or module (knock on wood).
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I'm so sad. Meanie has two bad compression readings on her #1 and #2 cylinders, so I've opted not to take her to Knotts this year. The recently rebuilt 2.0 in the garage would fit the bill, and I'm tempted to rent an engine hoist and see if I can swap engines myself, but I would REALLY love some help- this project is very scary for me.
After Jerry the mechanic told me what he found on wet and dry compression tests it made sense why Meanie wasn't as strong as Ruby...why she frequently stalls at intersections... why it takes an extraordinary amount of time to warm up...it fits. Maybe next year...