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Re: New project... 1980 Runabout
« Reply #120 on: June 22, 2014, 04:26:00 PM »
I'm sorry to hear about your setback. I loved those seats... Hope you can get it fixed up!

Pics of the damage?

Thanks. 2 years ago the engine fire happened but it didn't take out the whole car. Post 8 on page 2 has the damage of the burned parts. I know that once I get the engine in from the 77 I should be able to get the car running. Gotta install wiring harnesses & other parts to it but as long as I have fuel & spark it should fire right up for a test run.
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Re: New project... 1980 Runabout
« Reply #121 on: June 22, 2014, 08:28:04 PM »
Got the hood pulled off the car & also noticed the bracket the hood latch was mangled so I removed the latch & straightened it up. It's now straight & ready for me to continue the repairs on the car. If all goes according to plan I will be pulling the engine and getting ready to install the replacement engine by the weekend.
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« Reply #122 on: June 23, 2014, 09:16:50 PM »
I was cleaning my garage up today so I can get the engine pulled & went ahead & got the right side tires off the 77 Pinto. Got the RF tire on the 80 but couldn't get the RR off the 80. It's on there so tight it wouldn't come off kicked & kicked at it but no dice. Need to get a big hammer to knock that sucker off the car. Went to my workout tonight & when I came home I was gonna pull the starter. Wrong!!! I ran into another problem. I need to get a couple wrenches & sockets from my Dad's house to drop the rack & pinion. Once I do that I can get the starter off & check into the exhaust pipe.
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Re: New project... 1980 Runabout
« Reply #123 on: June 24, 2014, 07:46:35 PM »
I've changed starters without dropping the rack before.
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« Reply #124 on: June 24, 2014, 07:49:42 PM »
I've changed starters without dropping the rack before.

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« Reply #125 on: June 24, 2014, 07:54:55 PM »
I'm not sure. Both were 2.3 cars & I never dropped the rack. On an Ohio car that rack ain't coming out anyhow due to rust & corrosion. If necessary I'd take out the motor mount bolt & jack the engine instead.
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« Reply #126 on: June 24, 2014, 07:59:06 PM »
Interesting.. I'll just have to see what I can figure out & maybe get lucky. On the rusty 77 I was able to drop the rack to get the starter in & out of the car with little problem. On the 80 it's VERY clean down there thanks to a nice leaky oil pan & rear seal lol. We'll see what happens. Just a little too frustrated to mess with it today.
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« Reply #127 on: June 24, 2014, 08:47:57 PM »
I know they made several different length starters so maybe you are cursed with a long version.
 
All 3 racks I've pulled have required me to burn the bushings out then slide the rack off & heat the steel sleeve cherry red to get it off the rack bolts.
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« Reply #128 on: June 24, 2014, 09:30:10 PM »
I know they made several different length starters so maybe you are cursed with a long version.
 
All 3 racks I've pulled have required me to burn the bushings out then slide the rack off & heat the steel sleeve cherry red to get it off the rack bolts.

I guess in some ways I was lucky on the 77 then. A major rust bucket to the point where if I hit a pot hole or speed bump hard enough the RR leaf spring could come separated from the car one of these days, & yet I was able to drop the rack low enough to get the starter off. We'll see what happens when I tackle it next.
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Re: New project... 1980 Runabout
« Reply #129 on: July 26, 2014, 11:44:54 PM »
Hey, Matt.  ;D

Sorry to hear about Harold II, but glad to see you got another car. Sounds like you are on the right track. The new car doesn't hate you, it is just giving you tough love. Making you prove yourself worthy. ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #130 on: July 27, 2014, 08:11:45 AM »
I hope you're right Russ.

I gotta get my butt in gear if I'm to make the Ohio meet. Wednesday I'm golfing in the morning but then focusing on getting the engine yanked from the 80 & the engine starting to be yanked from the 77. Let the good times roll.
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« Reply #131 on: August 02, 2015, 12:46:56 PM »
Haven't done anything to my car but one thing I got that will be going in this car is a different radio. My dad once had a 1982 Plymouth Reliant and the car had a radio in it I liked. When he sold the car for $50 he kept the radio. At one time I installed the radio in a Ford Tempo I sold him. When he sold the car the radio went with it. Well, while on ebay I found the same type of radio. Paid more for it than I should have but I don't care. It's the exact radio I want.
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« Reply #132 on: August 02, 2015, 10:10:11 PM »
Looks good, haven't seen one of them in quite some time..
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« Reply #133 on: August 03, 2015, 08:12:40 PM »
Thanks. Can't wait to install it & see how it sounds in the car
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« Reply #134 on: August 08, 2015, 09:59:20 AM »
Today I'm gonna have some much needed fun at the Ohio State Fair, and later on I will clean around the car so I can start working on the car. I've got to get her on the road one way or another. I'm gonna yank the engine and transmission as an assembly, and then separate the 80s block from the transmission, before repeating the process on the 77s engine and transmission. I would just drop the assembly from the 77 in to the 80 but the 77 transmission only has 1st & 2nd gear. 3rd decided to go MIA when I was driving the car home from work one day about 3 years ago. Never found the problem but I think the band or clutches went bad. Still shifts good 1-2 but no 2-3 shift. I also will take the radiator from the 77, as the one from the 80 wasn't the right one.  I'm not sure how long the process will take but it will be a learning experience. I've never done an engine swap on my own, let alone on a car that doesn't run due to engine fire. We'll see how it all goes.
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« Reply #135 on: August 09, 2015, 07:49:31 AM »
I been thinking... The 80's current engine doesn't have the cylinder head, and the cylinder head isn't exactly ready to install but i'm not sure I can pull the engine without the head.. Hmmmmm
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« Reply #136 on: August 09, 2015, 03:54:40 PM »
Pulling the engine out with the head off is easier, use a short chain that's large enough to put short bolts with washers into the head bolt holes , if you leave the transmission in place bolt in the middle , if you pull trans and engine as one the second to last holes will work, as for not going into high on your transmission you may have a vacuum line problem, make sure the steel line is not clogged up or has a hole in it from rubbing on something or from rust , also the rubber line could be hard and split , these are very common problems, had my share of them ,
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Re: New project... 1980 Runabout
« Reply #137 on: August 09, 2015, 04:04:08 PM »
Everything on this car is a complete and total nightmare. It was rigged and aside from no rust underneath is in rough shape. Well that and the interior is fair. Thus why it was a bad fire. Oil everywhere fueled it


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« Reply #138 on: August 09, 2015, 06:06:50 PM »
VICTORY!!!! Ok, not a big one but victory none the less. I actually got something accomplished. I removed the lower exhaust manifold to catalytic convertor bolt. The top one is being a pain and won't come out too well. Still, progress is progress. This is the first bolt removed from the car in a long long time.
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« Reply #139 on: August 09, 2015, 07:53:17 PM »
If I ever take out a full set of exhaust studs/bolts without any being messed up that is one huge VICTORY for me, lmao...
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« Reply #140 on: August 09, 2015, 07:55:14 PM »
If I ever take out a full set of exhaust studs/bolts without any being messed up that is one huge VICTORY for me, lmao...

Funny you say that, cuz I can't even get a wrench or socket on the top one.
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« Reply #141 on: August 09, 2015, 08:25:08 PM »
Yep those can be a real pain , even with the right tools they can take time to remove , not counting the busted knuckles and leaving your DNA all over that spot , and since you said you had the head off of it you could remove the pipe from the catalytic converter and slide the whole pipe out from the top, and use a propane torch and heat the nuts up and then spray some Kroll on them ,use a six point scoket, always worked for me , and also you said the bottem of the car is covered with oil. Bet the rubber elbow to the transmission modulator turned to goo, that would give you a no high gear

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« Reply #142 on: August 09, 2015, 08:32:21 PM »
Yep those can be a real pain , even with the right tools they can take time to remove , not counting the busted knuckles and leaving your DNA all over that spot , and since you said you had the head off of it you could remove the pipe from the catalytic converter and slide the whole pipe out from the top, and use a propane torch and heat the nuts up and then spray some Kroll on them ,use a six point scoket, always worked for me , and also you said the bottem of the car is covered with oil. Bet the rubber elbow to the transmission modulator turned to goo, that would give you a no high gear



Well not exactly accurate. I believe I was a little confusing with my previous statement. I should have specified... The engine compartment was what was covered in oil. Underside is actually very clean and dry. Under the hood was very very greasy. I see what you're referring to about the convertor located under the car, and may give that a try before fighting with the part under the hood that I was referring to as the convertor. my 77 has no converor so I dunno what part is what on the 80.
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« Reply #143 on: August 09, 2015, 09:03:12 PM »
Ok , I see what you mean , been though that a few times myself over the years , cars that had converters when I got the car , a did not have a converter when I sold the car years later , guess your useiing two cars to make one useable,  very doable, pick the best stuff and install, guess invest in a case of gunk to clean all the oil and Greese so when you work on it you don't give yourself a lube job every time you open the hood😜
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« Reply #144 on: August 16, 2015, 09:41:52 AM »
When I had recently gone to the junkyard I found a set of 16" wipers on a 1985 Chevy Cavalier that were just what I was looking for. They were in horrible shape with rubber all dry rotted and the wipers themselves covered in crud & dried moss. Well I put some carwash soap & hot water in my kitchen sink to soak them in & they cleaned up nicely. Now all I need is to find new rubber refills, and they will be ready to put on the car.
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« Reply #145 on: August 16, 2015, 10:46:56 AM »
Went to my Dad's house & found an unopened pack of wiper blade refills. I bought them for his Taurus originally so they needed shortened but once done they came out nice. I cut the frame with a hack saw and miter box so they were nice & even & the rubber I was able to cut with a pair of scissors.
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« Reply #146 on: August 16, 2015, 10:47:55 AM »
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« Reply #147 on: August 16, 2015, 10:48:31 AM »
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« Reply #148 on: August 16, 2015, 10:16:44 PM »
Seems to have been a worthwhile project!


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Re: New project... 1980 Runabout
« Reply #149 on: August 19, 2015, 06:04:34 PM »
Seems to have been a worthwhile project!


Dwayne :)

Definitely. When I got the wipers from Pick N Pull they didn't even charge me for them. All covered in dried moss & crud but worth the soak & scrub time & they look very similar to what I remember was on my parent's 77 wagon. I like original wiper look. Even searched junkyards for OEM style wipers for my 85 Omni. Just a detail that is minor to some but important to me.... Says the person that is putting a digital radio in his Pinto lol
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress