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Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« on: March 29, 2015, 08:48:21 PM »
Can I change these over from the II to the 73 Pinto wagon?

Would it be an easy swap?
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 05:24:16 AM »
71 - 73 control arms are different from 74 - 78 arms & spindles.

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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 06:09:36 AM »
Thanks :)
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 07:23:28 AM »
Not a bolt on. Can be done BUT lots of WORK and not worth it on a daily driver. I raced my 72 race car Pinto for 20 years with stock 72 brakes so its no big deal.
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 07:46:01 AM »
Not a bolt on. Can be done BUT lots of WORK and not worth it on a daily driver. I raced my 72 race car Pinto for 20 years with stock 72 brakes so its no big deal.

Yeah, I'm just gonna move the back brakes from the Pinto to the new rear. :)
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2015, 09:07:27 AM »
Not necessary if your going to install a Mustang II 8" rear end. 8" rear end brakes from a II are the same as a 74/80 Pinto and the shoes are about 1/4" wider than a 71/72 and maybe 73 Pinto rear brakes. They will work just fine under your Pinto and are a true bolt on mod.
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2015, 11:08:50 AM »
Just something else to watch out for when swapping late and early parts.  The 71-72 cars had smaller OD hubs than the 74-80 cars, not sure about the 73.  So 71-72 brake drums will not fit on the 74-80 hubs.  Also the 74-80 brake drums will not be centered if used on 71-72 stock hubs.  Another result of the different hub OD size is that early factory steel wheels will not fit over the later larger hub.
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2015, 06:38:12 PM »
I'm just going to move the 73 rear drums to the 74 and it's bolt in I guess.
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2015, 07:19:28 PM »
I'm just going to move the 73 rear drums to the 74 and it's bolt in I guess.
Be careful, early pinto axles and Hubs use a smaller locating pilot hole, on the drums and original wheels. I had to ream out my 13"X7 wide steelies  center hole for the rear when I put in the 8"axle and carrier. I'm not sure if you can insert the 6-3/4 axles into a 8" axle and diff to remediate that Difference. I used the 8" drums because they are beefy and will shed heat better . Besides you can always get 74 or later rims that will fit the 8" axles and the front hubs.

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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2015, 07:46:43 PM »
Be careful, early pinto axles and Hubs use a smaller locating pilot hole, on the drums and original wheels. I had to ream out my 13"X7 wide steelies  center hole for the rear when I put in the 8"axle and carrier. I'm not sure if you can insert the 6-3/4 axles into a 8" axle and diff to remediate that Difference. I used the 8" drums because they are beefy and will shed heat better . Besides you can always get 74 or later rims that will fit the 8" axles and the front hubs.

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I would then have mismatching lugs patterns if I don't. We'll see this week if I ever get my car back from the paint shop. That guy is so anal!
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2015, 09:04:16 PM »
All Pintos and all 4 lug 8" rear ends have the very same 4 1/4" bolt pattern. Maybe you were thinking of a Vega which has a 4 1/2" bolt pattern. None of the parts in a 6 3/4" rear end will fit in or on an 8" rear end except the fill plug. Also all of the brake parts (drums / shoes / backing plates / etc / etc) from a 74/80 Pinto are the same as any four lug 8" rear end. They will interchange with each other.
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2015, 05:15:31 AM »
All Pintos and all 4 lug 8" rear ends have the very same 4 1/4" bolt pattern. Maybe you were thinking of a Vega which has a 4 1/2" bolt pattern. None of the parts in a 6 3/4" rear end will fit in or on an 8" rear end except the fill plug.

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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2015, 10:31:05 AM »
If going to 5 by 4.5 ranger backing plate and drum work on 74 on up 8in rear.

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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2015, 07:10:34 PM »
If going to 5 by 4.5 ranger backing plate and drum work on 74 on up 8in rear.

Mine is a 73 :(
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2015, 12:09:09 AM »
Dianne, your 8 inch rear is a 73? Not if it is from a II.
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Re: Front and back brakes from a 74 II
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2015, 06:51:26 AM »
Dianne, your 8 inch rear is a 73? Not if it is from a II.
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My Pinto is a 73 and the rear is from a 74 II :)
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