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General Help- Ask the Experts... / Re: 1971-73 2.0 motor mounts
« Last post by Wittsend on Today at 10:27:00 AM »

Interesting..., I have just been going through this with my Corvair Station Wagon. The trans/differential has two mounts roughly 2" x 2-1/2" circular. They are $170 for the pair!!! After investigating the Polyurethane method I came to find that it comes in many hardness's and within the hardness factor there are numerous scales that they are measured on.  Shore Hardness A seems to be the appropriate scale.

Shore Hardness A as it applies to factory motor mounts can be anywhere from 40-50. 60 is commonly sold as stiffer upgrade. Then you get these people who go all the way to 94 which is like solid steel. Smooth On is one of the big suppliers of the Poly and they have a chart that helps you understand. https://www.smooth-on.com/page/durometer-shore-hardness-scale/

Because most motor mounts are primarily compressible (downward, at an angle) the 2 part Poly should do well. In the case of my Corvair they are vertical and housed in a 2" tube with a center bolt. Because adhesion was paramount I opted for another product. The regular Poly can shrink and I would lose bond in the tube. Thus I opted to use 3M Windo-Weld 08609. This had adhesion properties to strongly bind a windshield to the car but is still a Poly product with a Shore A hardness of 55-60. The only down side is that it is a 1 part moisture cured product. I had to put it in in 1/8" thick layers (that would we 12 layers) two hours apart and it was a 24 hour all night affair. While cheaper than buying new mounts the stuff isn't as inexpensive as many state. They are often sold in "Starter Kits" otherwise you are buying gallons. Tax and shipping pushes the kits into the $40 range. My Window-Weld was 10.5 Oz. and was $33 with tax (free Amazon shipping). I used two thirds of the tube on my two mounts.

Anyway, sorry I don't have any 2.0 mounts for you to test with but hopefully the Poly information is helpful. I've included a before/after picture of my Corvair mounts as inspiration.




 
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General Help- Ask the Experts... / 1971-73 2.0 motor mounts
« Last post by LongTimeFordMan on May 17, 2024, 09:27:39 PM »
1971-73 2.0 engine mounts.

I've been looking for a source for motor mounts for my 73  2.0 wagon and it seems that all of the NOS is gone.

I have been researching rebuilding mounts from urethane resin but need a few pairs to experiment with.

If anyone has any worn out mounts I would be willing to buy them to experiment with.  If i am successful in finding a method to refurbish them i will post instructions.

Not sure how to receive responses so just post them as comments and i will try to send my contact info.

Thanks Ed
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General Help- Ask the Experts... / Re: Pinto Sedan Sub-Frame Connectors
« Last post by Wittsend on May 15, 2024, 12:50:10 PM »
I don't know that the sub frame connectors ever came up in conversation here. Doesn't mean that someone here doesn't know but I'd suggest checking a Mustang II site as they came with V8's as an option and you might be more successful in getting an answer.
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General Help- Ask the Experts... / Pinto Sedan Sub-Frame Connectors
« Last post by ddeangelo50 on May 14, 2024, 09:36:53 AM »
Would any of our members know if somebody fabricates bolt-on sub-frame connectors for a '74 thru '78 Pinto sedan?

Thanks,

Darrell
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General Pinto Talk / Re: MY VINTAGE CAR
« Last post by rob289c on May 11, 2024, 06:22:13 AM »
So far in the People's Republic of New York we don't have any annual automobile tax.  I'm sure we will at some point so we can pay for all the programs that fund the non-contributors.  Lord knows our taxes are already outrageous and our freedoms are being controlled more and more.  I like where I live but the politics of a Blue State are ever encroaching.
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General Pinto Talk / Re: MY VINTAGE CAR
« Last post by davidpinto on May 07, 2024, 06:17:13 PM »
I VALUED IT AT $1500.00 ,I GOT MY TAG RENEWAL TODAY AND IT IS VALUED ON IT AT THAT AMOUNT.PROPERT Y TAX IS $9.53.   
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General Pinto Talk / Re: MY VINTAGE CAR
« Last post by dga57 on May 07, 2024, 03:04:57 PM »
In Virginia, older cars eventually age out of being taxed (at least in my County).  I own a '72 Pinto Squire wagon and a '74 Pinto Runabout and, while I still have to declare annually that I have them, purchase price, etc., they are not subject to Personal Property Tax like my '20 Ram Limited and my '22 Mercedes-Benz are.  Taxes on those two were about $1800
for 2023 which is high for this area (but they were both expensive vehicles) but probably a fraction of what they'd be if I lived in California!  I obviously have no plans to relocate.


Dwayne :)
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General Pinto Talk / Re: MY VINTAGE CAR
« Last post by Wittsend on May 07, 2024, 11:11:23 AM »
Here in Calif. those fees all get rolled into the yearly registration. They assume the value of your car drops so over time they yearly go down from about $600 on a $40,000 (new) car. But I can tell you that the very bottom cost registration is now $148. I just registered my '61 Corvair Station Wagon and there was a list of about 10 different fees that were 'tagged on' to the actual registration cost. I think they added up to somewhere between $20-$30 of the total cost.

As the government goes deeper into debt you will be expected to pay higher taxes and fees on the credit card they say they have been running up on your behalf. While there are roughly 350 million people in the country only 161.5 million are wage earners. If all debt was to stop and accrue no interest those 161.5 million wage earners would still have $217,000 EACH in debt to pay off.

 Assuming a person works 45 years of their life and to fairly as possible spread the debt out, the debt should be paid in 22.5 years. The additional  tax for EACH wage earner to pay the 22.5 year debt would be $9,644 yearly, $804 monthly or  $201 weekly. If you are a husband and wife double those numbers for your household ($19,288 yearly, $1608 monthly, and $402 weekly respectively). And think about it taking Trillions out of the economy to stop debt and miraculously having no interest payments are pipe dreams that will never occur. So, the situation is far worse than it seems. And then there is the dwindling Social Security fund... . This is not meant to be a rant or be political. It is just true numbers about why things cost what they do. Think of it as a 'word math problem'.
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General Pinto Talk / Re: MY VINTAGE CAR
« Last post by caravan3921 on May 07, 2024, 11:02:14 AM »
Sounds like a scam to us.
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Your Project / Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Last post by dga57 on May 06, 2024, 10:52:05 AM »
It sounds like you got a few things accomplished over the weekend, and that's a good thing!

Dwayne :)
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