Author Topic: five lug conversion for front (Read 16444 times)

david_duck · « **on:** October 19, 2005, 06:12:45 PM »

Hey folks new guy here,I have been a fan of pintos for a long time and I am in the process of doing a v8(302) swap in one now and I was wondering what it takes to put 5 lug rotors on a pinto? (junkyard parts if I can). any help would be greatly appreciated!! this site is awesome I have found several Tricks on my swap keep up the good work!!

Pintony · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2005, 07:28:11 PM »

Hello David,
Welcome to the Ford Pinto .com.
Maybe you could tell us a bit about your self and, Most importantly about your Pinto.

The 74-80 Pinto is an easy swap although not using J.Y. parts.
The early Pinto is a bit harder.
From Pintony

77turbopinto · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2005, 07:33:23 PM »

Pintony beat me again.

Bill

Pintony · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2005, 09:27:49 PM »

Boy!!!!
My Pinto must be real fast!
I did not even know we were RACING!!!!!!
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david_duck · « **Reply #4 on:** October 20, 2005, 09:47:48 AM »

Hey thanks for the info on the front end swap.... as for me I'm 34 years old,married to my wonderful wife for 3 years. I live in east TN.I have a very rough '78 but I have my eye on an '80 model to restore gonna do the 302 engine swap (with lots of help from the people here @ the pinto cafe) I have the rear end out of a wagon with 3.55 gears to go in what ever car I build, my engine is @ the mech. shop hopefully I'll get some pics of my project on here soon. My wife thought I had lost my mind at first till she saw some of the pintos on here, you guys have some nice rides!!! and again thanks for all your help (more ?'s to come I'm sure!!)

pmfman · « **Reply #5 on:** October 20, 2005, 07:27:02 PM »

Quote from: 77turbopinto on October 19, 2005, 07:33:23 PM

Pintony beat me again.

dont fear, pintony's here!

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2005, 05:36:33 PM »

Quote from: pmfman on October 20, 2005, 07:27:02 PM

Quote from: 77turbopinto on October 19, 2005, 07:33:23 PM
Pintony beat me again.
dont fear, pintony's here!

Does this have anything to do with the topic?

Pintony · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2005, 06:02:28 PM »

HOW FUNNY!!!!!!

david_duck · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2005, 06:35:47 PM »

where do I find the parts to do the 5 lug front end? I have searched high and low on here all I find is mustang stuff........d o parts suppliers not believe in the power of the all mighty pinto?

this is gonna be a fun project to do since I have found the pros to know!!!

Pintony · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2005, 06:48:10 PM »

Hello David,
These are the cheepest I have ever seen the front rotors you need.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mustang-II-ROTORS-NEW-Street-Rod-Ford-5-lug-pair_W0QQitemZ4583208952QQcategoryZ34199QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Bolt on W/O modification for the 74-80 Pinto.
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turbopinto72 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 23, 2005, 06:53:24 PM »

Quote from: Pintony on October 23, 2005, 06:48:10 PM

Hello David,
These are the cheepest I have ever seen the front rotors you need.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mustang-II-ROTORS-NEW-Street-Rod-Ford-5-lug-pair_W0QQitemZ4583208952QQcategoryZ34199QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Bolt on W/O modification for the 74-80 Pinto.
From Pintony

I see that the seller says " 9+", I would email him and ask exactally what size these are. If they are 9" than your calipers will work, If they are 11" ( granada rotors) then you will need to do a caliper swap. ( I figure its better to ask a question than stuck with the wrong product). Just my 2c.

Pintony · « **Reply #11 on:** October 23, 2005, 07:20:22 PM »

Hey Brad,
GREAT POINT!!!
I did not read the text for those rotors. They look right though.
Hey David,
turbopinto72 has 1 up-ed me. Check with the seller first!

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turbopinto72 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2005, 07:21:32 PM »

Just making sure we point out the stuff we know.......... ..

Pintony · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2005, 07:26:34 PM »

Having not tried the 11" rotor since I put a set on my Turbo Pinto back in 1984 I PLUM forgot about the Granada swap.

77turbopinto · « **Reply #14 on:** October 24, 2005, 07:44:51 AM »

"Plum", I get it.

I did the granada swap, I like it. I posted some details either here or in the help section.

Pintony, do you have those parts ready to ship to me? Please let me know.

Bill

david_duck · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2005, 06:00:24 PM »

Hey thanks alot guys that was easy enough!!! gonna buy oem replacement must.ii front roters from advance auto with all the hardware I need to do it up right!!

Pintony · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2005, 06:11:33 PM »

Hello David,
Mustang II rotors will still be 4 lug.
You will have to get the ones that the ROD guys use for the % lug.
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77turbopinto · « **Reply #17 on:** November 28, 2005, 08:49:05 AM »

No, the granada brackets/calipers will not fit on the pinto spindles. You will need custom brakets for any calipers you use with the granada rotors on a pinto, but the brakets for GM metric ones are out there (and cheap). I have not heard if the granada spindles will work on the pinto a arms, but I tend to doubt it. Even if they bolt in, the geometry might get messed-up.

I have not done it, but you will need to do some cutting and welding to install rear disc brakes on a pinto rear, or to install a rear with discs in a pinto. There is a lot to it, and I would say that drums are easier in the long run. If you plan to do it try to find a rear that someone has converted and is ready to bolt in (I have never seen one for sale). If you can't, and you want to make your own, get a full donor rear with ebrake cables so you will have all the parts you need. I installed a rear from a 68 stang and it took some work, but the pinto ebrake cables worked fine. This spring I plan to re-do the shoes on mine, the rear has big drums and I get too much braking from them. I am going to use 4 'front' shoes, or install a manual proportioning valve.

Bill

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 29, 2005, 09:18:24 PM »

Take a look in the FAQ section where I post on doing this swap on 71-73 pintos

ford guy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2006, 11:52:17 AM »

street rodder magazine . you can get them any where.
southern rods has them
drake has them and jim carpenter. kits do it right

you can even go with 11 inch disc if you want

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2006, 12:21:33 PM »

Quote from: ford guy on March 27, 2006, 11:52:17 AM

street rodder magazine . you can get them any where.
southern rods has them
drake has them and jim carpenter. kits do it right

you can even go with 11 inch disc if you want

Please note, 71-73 Pintos will not work with the Hot Rod kits they sell.
Also if you use 11" rotors you will need to have at least 15" wheels.
Kind of important information wouldn't you think???

datazz · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2006, 05:11:23 PM »

Hey,On ebay under mustang II,I bought a set of 5 lug 9 in. rotors for my 80 pinto wagon for $75.00 including shipping and they work great.They have them in 5 lug chevy or 5 lug ford.

pintoman2009 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2006, 08:16:54 PM »

isnt there some kind of adapter thing too that switches 4 lug to 5 lug

datazz · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2006, 08:23:38 PM »

The 73 wagon that I bought in ft.wayne had a 4 lug bolt pattern drilled out for a 5 lug.

pintoman2009 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2006, 09:46:22 PM »

i thought i seen a thing on a site somewhere that had this adapter thing that switched it to another lug type but i dont kno maybe it was sumtin else

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:17:57 AM »

The 5 lug axles are a little bit longer that the 4 lug axles. However, I think there is room in the carrier to accommodate the extra length.

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 31, 2006, 09:12:35 PM »

Quote from: turbopinto72 on April 22, 2006, 10:17:57 AM

The 5 lug axles are a little bit longer that the 4 lug axles. However, I think there is room in the carrier to accommodate the extra length.

Well, as someone on this site has once again busted my chops on a mistake I will correct it. I wanted to say 5 lug, 67-68 MUSTANG axles are a bit longer not Mavrick ( which I do not know anything about apparently)

77turbopinto · « **Reply #27 on:** August 01, 2006, 12:17:16 PM »

Yes, the 67 and later stang axles are wider and will not fit in the Pinto rear. The 66 and older ones are not as wide, but I don't know if they will fit in the Pinto housing. I can say the Maverick axles are about .25" SHORTER and will not engage the splines as much as they should if used in a Pinto rear.

There is a bunch more info in this section in the thread for the 8" rears.

Bill

Pintony · « **Reply #28 on:** November 14, 2006, 10:54:16 PM »

Quote from: turbopinto72 on July 31, 2006, 09:12:35 PM

Well, as someone on this site has once again busted my chops on a mistake I will correct it. I wanted to say 5 lug, 67-68 MUSTANG axles are a bit longer not Mavrick ( which I do not know anything about apparently)

Hey Brad,
I do not see the post where you claim someone was busting your chops.
Is that because I have you on speed dial???
See what happens when I go back to :read: old posts

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 25, 2006, 03:53:20 PM »

Tony, that was realy old........... .

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