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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Ok now some 2.0 questions...

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69GT

  Thanks Bill.

   Well went to pick up the "other 2.0" head... It turned out to be an old 2.3 round port head with some rust and very nice looking new valves. I have no clue if the old heads are better than the D port heads but I figure they aren't.  This guy I bought the stuff from got it from another person who gave up on a race project and he has no clue what he has. He cant seem to tell a 2.3 head from a 2.0 head. Oh well It's no extra charge so I took it. Everything else on the head looked stock but the new valves might be worth having. I need to measure them. 

Oh and got a pic of my Pinto up on my profile.

77turbopinto

Quote from: 69GT on June 05, 2008, 02:30:19 AM
   ..... Oh, My question was if the T-9 will bolt to the stock Pinto 2.0 bell housing. Is it the same bolt pattern? Basically will it plug into the back of my current motor and bell (2.0 4-Speed). Is the tranny to bell housing bolt pattern the same....

Quote from: Pintony on June 04, 2008, 11:47:19 PM
Yes a direct bolt in if you use the stepped dowls that Bill sells and shorten the shaft.
From Pintony

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,9611.msg60487.html#msg60487

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Quote from: 69GT on June 05, 2008, 02:30:19 AM
   ......I'm almost willing to bet a Fox Mustang drive shaft will be about the right length when the 8" is in......

If the T-9 is about the same length as a C4 or T-5.

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,3008.msg23830.html#msg23830


Bill

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69GT

   Yes the Merkur guys go to the T-5 because the T-9 is pretty much at the limit torque wise even in stock form. A little more boost and an intercooler are murder to them. I was going to run N/A for a while so neither motor should be able to hurt it.

  Oh, My question was if the T-9 will bolt to the stock Pinto 2.0 bell housing. Is it the same bolt pattern? Basically will it plug into the back of my current motor and bell (2.0 4-Speed). Is the tranny to bell housing bolt pattern the same. Did you mean I need stepped dowels for  that?  We will of course measure everything and I'll post progress reports.  I'm almost willing to bet a Fox Mustang drive shaft will be about the right length when the 8" is in.
       
I would save the T-9 to 2.3 bell for another occasion. I figure I will not need stepped dowels since the bell already has the correct pattern for the 2.3. Later if turbos get involved I'll need a T-5+ the T-5/2.3 bell and the dowels. 

I'm kinda exited about this. I might be ordering a 2.0 header soon. The "new" 2.0 has a better cam and Esslinger power pulley and cam adjuster. The valve springs look pretty hefty. Might be a high RPM cam. I need to look up how wild Pony Stock motors are allowed to be. My friend says they are limited in cam and compression areas so it might be streetable with a steeper gear and an overdrive tranny to bring the RPMs down on the highway.

77turbopinto

I have never owned a 2.0 or a T-9, but I have heard that the bells are interchangable. If they are not, AND the T-9 bell has uses the 'lower' top holes, I sell stepped dowel pins that will make the 2.3 bell work.

I don't know if the T-9 shifter will be located in the same place as the 4spd.

Also, keep in mind that I have read that Merkur owners commonly swap to the T-5 because the T-9s are not that durable.


Bill
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69GT

  Inventory update: I have another 2.0 head for the new shortblock. The guy who sold the other stuff found it in his garage. I will go pick it up Thursday :)

Also. I was going through old threads and discovered that a T-9 5-speed is possibly a direct bolt up deal??? Is this true? If the pilot bearing and trans mount are the same I'm in! I read the T-9 is smaller and has no trans tunnel issues because it's basically the same tranny with a 5th gear added. Shortened driveshafts are no problem here so is this true? Will it bolt to the stock 2.0 bell housing? Pintony? 77Turbopinto?

   It just so happens a friend of mine scrapped out an XR4ti a year ago. Took its 2.3 turbo motor for his 75 Pinto. I can have the T-9 if i want it. Also of note, It of course has a bell made to mate it to a 2.3 should I want to put one of those in later.......

Pintony! It happened to me today. I was talking about my Pinto to a co-worker and he insisted the 2.3 head would bolt right up to the 2.0 block. "They are the same motor" He said. I had a hard time convincing him they were different motors from different continents. It started when I told him about my  2.3 with the roller cam and wished out loud I could put a good cheap roller cam in the Pintos 2.0.

69GT

Pintony:

I think they are confused by the Ranger Lima 2.0 that was a smaller (Why Ford? WHY?) 2.3 based motor.

   Still, What would you do with the 2.0 stuff that I have? I could get a header that fits. Maybe gasket match the stock intake since it is way smaller than the port on the head. The new block seems to have zero decked pistons so it might be close to 10:1 compression. 

My current inventory:

The two 2.0 motors, one a fresh short block, Esslinger advance pulley, Head with "good" cam and springs (High RPM??) Oh and a 500 CFM 2BBL and intake.
A 2.3 turbo Bird shortblock.
A N/A 2.3 F.I. motor out of my old 87 Ranger with mildly ported head and a .420 roller cam. Had great power.
A header made for a 2.3 in a Pinto.
At least one turbo T-Bird T-5 transmission.
A Pinto 8" rear out of a wagon with who knows what gears. If i get the T-5 in I'll put 4.11s.
A 72 4-speed Pinto thats really needing more power.
A partridge but it's in an orange tree.

What would you do? All opinions welcome.


69GT

Oops. I mean St. Louis. Drove through there often in the 90s.  :fastcar:

69GT

  Dammit!!! I used to go to Tulsa all the time at my old job!!!!  :(   I really wish I could ride in it. What kind of performance does it get? I do keep seeing those turbo manifolds for 2.0s on e-bay. I'd probably do a blow through type though.  I want to fab a carb enclosure. My friend wants to try anyway and he can weld aluminum. I would do a carbed turbo either way. 

  Pintony.  I get the feeling you don't like the 2.3 much  ;) I have always been a fan. Tough, easy and almost impossible to kill. I blew my original bolt on modded SVOs head gasket beating a Buick GN by a half car. Drove it 20 miles home with that wonderful oil+coolant  milkshake in the oil pan. Then 13 miles to the shop to put the new one in. What about the 2.0 appeals to you so much? I like mine but it's stock and a bit of a pooch on the freeway. What tricks would you do to make mine acceptably fast? If it could make 100 wheel HP I'd probably love it. I have a good amount of turbo know how too. So a T-3 would be a possibility if for some reason I feel I need to really test those tiny disk brakes  :accident:

P.S. Not afraid of steep gears and higher RPMs here. I will put a T-5 in eventually.

Thanks!!!

69GT

Of course now I discover that I can have my old Ranger 2.3 back for free. It has a mildly ported head and a .420 roller cam. I have a Pinto 2.3 header collecting dust in the garage too. Making/Changing motor mounts will not be too hard for my friend so I Might sell the 2.0 stuff. There are barely any parts available for it. Might keep and use the assembled one and sell the fresh short block, transmission, intake, Esslinger pulley  etc.   I have not decided yet but the 2.3 appeals to me more. Mostly because I used to have an SVO. And of course they have a ton of after market support. 

69GT

  Thanks Pintony. They are plentiful around here. Are there any other issues with bolting up the 5-Speed? I might be getting an 87 Turbo Coupe T-5 for free. I think it has a 3.78 first and a .78 O.D.  Is there any input shaft/ Pilot bearing info I should know?  There has probably been other threads like this. Just need to know whats involved.

69GT

   I'll definitely be getting some of those dowel pins soon. what donor car gives the T-5 most likely to fit? Do any mods have to be made? Or parts bought? They are everywhere around here. Thanks 77turbopinto.

77turbopinto

Quote from: 69GT on May 18, 2008, 06:08:12 PM....I want to convert to a T-5 5-Speed. Didn't someone on here sell the parts needed to make the top bolts line up?   



Sorry no, the top bolts will still be an issue, but I sell the stepped dowel pins that you need for the swap, $30. shipped and insured.

PM me if you want a pair.



BTW: Nice score......

Bill
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69GT

Well I bought it! I could not pass up that deal. Here is what $300 got me. I got a full length header, 1 fresh in the bag 2.0 .040 over forged or hyper u  piston short block. 1 assembled long block that was to have been used for a Pony Stock race car (Fox body Mustang). It looked pretty good and seemed to have an aggressive cam due to the heavy duty springs and good valves installed. The head appears stock but maybe a little work in the ports but the casting marks are still there. The intake appears to be a standard 2.0 intake with a 500 cfm 2BBL adapter. The carb is there but disassembled. I didn't know Ford left the stock intake runners so frigging small compared to the intake ports on the head! It's a huge difference. There must be after market intakes that fix this mis match. Also got a (used) clutch and a nice flywheel. On the long block is a Esslinger adjustable cam sprocket and an esslinger dampener. Oh and a stock appearing 4-Speed tranny. He said it had beefy internals but who cares if it doesn't.  I saw assembled 2.0 short blocks alone for sale for $700+ so I might have scored pretty good on this one. Only thing is I don't think the header will fit. I have seen  ones like it on the Racer Walsh site and I don't think it drops down far enough before it heads for the back :( Oh well I'll buy one that fits.

  I want to convert to a T-5 5-Speed. Didn't someone on here sell the parts needed to make the top bolts line up?   


Srt

right on tony.  if you can't get into the 15's with a 100-120 then call it a day and give it up
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

69GT

   Well Pintony, I think the big cam question is answered. My friend recalls some pretty serious looking heavy duty springs on the "ported" head with the Esslinger sprocket. When I was thinking about 4.11s it was with an overdrive tranny like the T-5 conversion. I think there are a lot more parts in this deal too. My friend mentioned two boxes of stuff that included a flywheel and clutch and other odds and ends. I have 3.55s right now and it's as steep a gear as I'd use on that car with no O/D. My Maverick had 3.70s before I put the 5-Speed in and it was driving me crazy. 70 MPH was around 3600 RPM. Now 70 MPH = 2400 RPM.
          Oh and I agree 100 real HP would be just fine. 120 would be my goal though. The 2.0 is just too friggin small. If 2.8 parts were abundant I would do one of those. Hell the 2.3 has 18 more cubes and it's barely enough. I guess I'm a little spoiled on cubes and the torque they bring. Honestly I'd be pleased if I could weasel a 14 second capable car out of this. 15s are OK too.  It zipps through the gears pretty good until 4th then it's a pooch.  It runs out of breath early too. All that porting a header,cam and intake should put that motor closer to the power band it was really made for.

Thanks for the input Pintony. It's always appreciated.

apintonut

ive heard the its a built engine story allot but i bout a 80 pinto and got that same old song and dance but i pay 200 for it and needed the engine for my 80 wagon. me and earthquake took it down and it so far has yeled a header a webber and aluminum flywheel and the car had some cahones so maybe.  every thing has had very little use.

but to my point the 2.0 is very rare and parted out a compleate 2.0 should bring about 500$ for stock stuff. so the qeston is are u a gamble-n man 400$ is a fare buy in  id say
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

69GT

   Today a friend of mine discovered that a friend of his has several old 2.0 racer parts lying around and wants to get rid of them. They are: 1 stock looking short block, 1 longblock race motor with a possibly ported head with definitly bigger cam and springs, better intake with a 350-500 cfm 2.BBL carb adapter with carb,  an  adjustable Esslinger sprocket. and a manual transmission that has an aluminum tail shaft (?) and possibly a headder. He says he needs to get rid of it all to the tune of like $400. It has been sitting for several years and would need a teardown and cleaning at the very least. My friend (A mechanic) eyeballed the stuff and said it looked old but salvageable. I am going to look at it tomorrow.

O.K. I havent given much thought to modding the 2.0 but opportunity just might have knocked. I am only interested in street able HP. I am pretty liberal on my definition of streetable. Just needs to be fairly reliable, drivable, and fun. I have no idea what the compression will be but I'll cc the chambers during the rebuild.  How much power could I get with a healthy 2.0 with the parts above? I have an 8" Pinto rear I can put in with whatever gears I want. I will probably convert it to a T-5 and run some 4.11s or 4.30s.  Stock HP is 86 and who knows what gets to the wheels.