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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

1978 Pinto - Interior

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Cookieboystoys

I didn't get any time today to do what I wanted, but I did get the dash cap glued down.

life gets in the way sometimes  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

r4pinto

Lookin good there. I like your idea about 3.5's in the dash. I should do that. Oh wait a minute.. that's what I did 2 years ago. lol.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Cookieboystoys

and stereo wires are run/hooked up so I tested my setup. Rear speakers are not mounted in the rear panels yet so my true sound can't be heard yet but sounds OK so far. I need to chase down a few things tomorrow before I can finish the dash, heater controls, radio, ash tray, glove box, etc... so I can't finish yet but... soon I hope.

Tomorrow I will glue the dash cap down for sure, need to replace some bulbs on the speedo cluster. And.... I have to find an  ??? antenna extension  ??? as the radio has the hookup on the wrong side  ??? this could get interesting. Also seems I have to chase down a short/ground issue as rear turn signals work but the front don't  ???

Ahhh... the fun of reassembly  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Well here's Saturdays accomplishments...

1) visors and overhead light

2) lights, wipers, vent and speedo

3) other vent and test fit dash cap (not glued down yet)

4) replaced the missing seatbelt cover and rear hangers installed (Thanks Tigger! perfect match for the headliner)





It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Well... I did take Friday night off from the pinto.. rested up and ready to get back at it this weekend. I got the speakers I wanted for the front speaker mount. 2 - 3.5" Pyle PLX32's (nothing fancy and cheap) and will let me hook up the new stereo front channel's in stereo and mount in the original location. there will be a set of 6.5" speakers in the rear panels by the rear passenger seats. Nothing fancy here but should be enough for toolin' around town.

1) first picture is the tools/stuff I used to mount the speakers... drill bits, misc nuts, bolts and washers, an old blask t-shirt, some black glue, and of course the speakers.

2) first order of business was to drill the holes for the speakers. Then I cut a section of the old black t-shirt for the speaker cover. Taped it to the top of the box for the speakers (didn't stretch to tight) and put a bead of the weatherstrip and gasket glue down on the speaker bracket. Pressed to to the t-shirt and pulled it back off, touched up with a smaller/lite bead and reapplied. Let sit until glue was all setup. The glue used acts a lot like contact cement.

3) then I was ready to mount the speakers to the bracket. I had to use a bunch of washersto move the speakers away from the speaker base. The center tweeter on each speaker would have sit to high in the bracket if I didn't and I didn't want any issues when installing under the dash. I hope it all fits OK... It should...

Anyhow... plans for this weekend include... reinstalling the dash pad and putting the new cap on. Mount the new defrost vent plastic and my new front speakers. Reinstalling the light and washer controls, both side/dash vents and possibly the speedo cluster and heater controls and possibly start on the new radio install and other small items.

Lots to do but getting closer  ;D

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Windshield is installed and with the cleaned trim and the new seal it looks sweet and I rest easy knowing the bugger shouldn't leak. George (the glass guy) told me they sealed it up tight and should be good to go. He also did me a small favor... installed my new beltlines  ;D

The new tank is hooked up, it should be a little warmer this weekend in the 40's so will be decent to work in the garage so I should be able to get a bit more done this weekend. Debating on if I want to take the night off on Friday, get a few house things done or work on the car. Think I will take the night off...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

gas will be delivered tomorrow so I can keep warm...

tonight I cleaned up the trim for the windshield and stripped the center piece for the new steering wheel. I had a bit of overspray on the trim so I used paint stripper to remove and all polished up before the windshield goes back in.

I also wanted to remove the wood look to the center trim on the wheel. I got the wheel from my old mustang II I scrapped this last summer. It's black with a thick leather OEM wrap. I will paint the backside plastic with the plastic primer and then the same blue paint I used on the dash as well as the lower cover for the steering column. I will also paint the kick panels to match, I think it would look funny if I didn't so one more painting session before I'm done... details man... details... soon reassembly starts  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Tony, I really do feel like someone has beat me with a rubber hose. I'm sore in places I didn't know could hurt from all the climbing around inside this car. I guess being a "computer nerd" has it's drawbacks when it comes to activities like this...

Monday was horrible and it was all I could do to get thru the day. A good nights sleep and I really felt pretty good Tuesday and was ready to hit it again last night. But after twisting and turning, tucking and pulling to get the rear gasket to fit well. The odd angles and laying on the cold floor to do parts of the door gaskets.... I could feel the pain again and faded fast.

Them gaskets I got from you (door and hatch) really look and work great. I can't thank you enough for sending them to me.

On the up-side... I can afford to take a bit of a rest for the next couple days as I'm waiting for a few things to arrive and still have a few items to prep before the next step... then back at it!

now... where's that # for the gas place  :lost:
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pintony

Lots of hard work there Brian!!!
Looking good!!!!
  From Pintony

Cookieboystoys

Well... new door gaskets and rear hatch gasket are installed and fit good. I reinstalled the steering wheel and drivers seat so it's ready to go back to the glass guy to have the windshield reinstalled. After that's done the real fun begins  ;D

On another note... almost out of propane for the garage heater, started "stinking" last night. Where is Summer!!! I didn't want to buy anymore  :(
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Done! Headliner installed! Now that's what I call a busy and productive weekend...

I'm gonna go collapse now.... Ohhhh... I hurt... but it feels good  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: TIGGER on March 30, 2008, 04:05:08 AM
Looking good Brian.

Thanks Tigger...

boy am I sore and a bit tired but gotta keep going....

garage is heated, tape is pulled and WOW does it look nice. almost want to install a door panel just to see how it will look but have to wait.

more pics with tape pulled and wiped down.

plus the next step  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

TIGGER

79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Cookieboystoys

Painting = Done!

gads... that took longer than expected... sanding, masking, primer and paint.

tomorrow I remove the masking to see how it turned out.

looks good so far  ;D

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Friday Night! got the heater core pulled and replaced all hoses and clamps. Was even able to get "molded" top and bottom radiator hoses  ;D

Tonight... sanding and painting the interior dash and doors...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

 ;D  ;D YIPPY!!!  ;D  ;D

Headliner has finally arrived and car is going to get it's windshield pulled today!

...now I can get started on the Big Stuff!

I finished painting the interior stuff last night so that is all ready to go...

I know where I'll be all weekend  :)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Tony, I really think it's going to look "WOW" when finished...

Got goodies from Fed Ex today. Some parts from Tigger I needed and my Dash Cap arrived.

Still waiting on the headliner to get here... I wanna get that glass pulled so I can get to work on the car.

been working on some of the other small parts...

here are a couple emblems that I refurbed the red/white/blue.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pintony

Hey Cookieboy,
The panels and parts look awsome!!!! 8)
That is a GREAT color and will look very nice in your White 78 all glass hatch Pinto!!!
Keep up the great work!!!!
From Pintony

Cookieboystoys

well... with Tony's advise and help all went well with the painting I wanted to get done this weekend.

I'm still waiting for the headliner and will wait for it to arrive (mid-week) to have the windshield pulled.

left to do... not necessarily in this order.

sand and paint the dash and doors.

paint door panels and arm rests.

remove heater core to replace lines.

install headliner and new rear hatch gasket

have windshield reinstalled w/new gasket.

Install the new door gaskets.

reassemble the interior and dash

install new radio/CD/MP3 player and speakers
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Pintony on March 22, 2008, 10:53:51 AM
Mineral spirits have too much oil in it for painting.

Thanks Tony for the info and call... my mistake and I know what to do to fix...

do over...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pintony

Well There's your problem!!!!
Mineral spirits have too much oil in it for painting.
Mineral sprits are for cleaning brushes and thinning oil based paint.
Not a suitable cleaning agent.
You would be better off with just soap and a good rinse.
Maybe some scotch brite to scuff and then a tack rag to remove the dust B4 painting.
From Pintony

Cookieboystoys

ARGGG!!! I'm getting frustrated!

OK.. I'm trying to paint the plastic rear panels and doing some testing on small parts before I commit to the big parts and it's not working. Fish Eyes!!!!!

Here's what I have done....

clean parts with warm soapy (dawn dish soap)

clean with magic eraser

clean with mineral spirits

use "Valspar" brand plastic primer

then spray with Rust-oleum Metallic paint

and I get Fish Eyes!!!

:wow: any ideas on what I am doing wrong?

I have all the pieces needed to just put in the back panels and leave them in the original black but... everthing else will be dark blue/light blue and think it would look a bit funny/off if I do that. If I can't get this paint to stick and look nice however I will not paint them.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

FCANON

Thats not joke Cookieboy...I sent my Daughter to clean the inside of her car and the back panels are trashed...I wonder about this. since I have had Black ones that held up pretty good but the blue all have been compromised.
I've been kicking around doing a fiberglass and fabric covering like they do with sub inclosure's to reproduce a durable rear side panels...But then again it might be a little too much for her since she wanted to drive it last year...:)

Keep it up. your motivating me.

FrankBoss
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Cookieboystoys

Quote from: dave1987 on March 20, 2008, 03:49:49 AM
I can't wait to see a Sprint back on the road again!

Thanks Dave, BTW it's not a sprint. Sprints were 1972 only and this is a 78  ;)

the entire interior has issues. I pulled the rear panels last night and they are just crumbling. The visors and door panels are bubbling, dash pad looks horrible, etc... once I'm done the interior will look a whole lot better and ready for me to start racking up the miles, daily driver bound this car is  ;D

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

dave1987

Sounds like you're on a roll on this one cookieboy! I can't wait to see a Sprint back on the road again!

I have never seen door panels bubble like your passenger's side has. I've only ever seen them sag like my own passenger's side panel has.

1AAuto is great. I ordered my dash cap from them and am VERY pleased with speed of service and quality of product!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Cookieboystoys

another update - gathering the interior parts and taking inventory. found the last couple items I was looking for tonight. I'm thinking I will spend the weekend getting all the interior parts cleaned and painted. It will be next week before I get the windshield pulled and so I can park the car outside to make room in the garage for painting.

I also removed the original rear panels. Tested to see if the new rear hatch gasket will work as good as the door gaskets did and all is cool. I have done partial cleanups of most in the interior parts but still more to do.

I need to run to the store to get some more of the items needed for cleanup/prep the plastic and vinyl parts I will be painting. Also need to get some sand paper for the dash and doors before I can paint them. I am planning to sand and paint after the windshield is pulled and before the headliner goes in.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: TIGGER on March 18, 2008, 10:25:21 AM
Brian, make sure it is nice and warm when you install the headliner.   

Thanks for the tip Tigger, I have to heat the garage anyhow so all will be good there.

Update... Dash Cap Ordered = Found on Ebay and called to order direct 1Aauto

cost was $57.95 and $28.00 Ship = $85.95 Total

Web Site = http://www.1aauto.com/
Ebay user name = www.1aautomotive.com
Phone = 888.820.3393
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

TIGGER

Brian, make sure it is nice and warm when you install the headliner.  It will make the job much easier and look much nicer.  I installed the headliner in my 67 coupe years ago.  My first attempt was in the dead of winter when it was real cold out.  I could not get the wrinkles out for it to look good so I quit.  The next term started shortly after and I did not have time to fool with it again till spring break.  I picked a nice mid 60's day to do it the second time.  WIth the car outside in the sun, the headliner went in like butter.  It was amazing how much the difference in temperature made.  The only thing I had trouble with was doing the curve around the back window.  My neighbor, who does interiors for a living, helped me with that real quick.  To this day, the headliner looks just as good as the day I put it in. 
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

FCANON

Funny enough
My Daughters car is the same colors..and we're starting the same project this summer....
So far we need high back seats and the back plastic.. I figured we would cover the plastic with a tweed or vinyl to cover the age/color and damage.

FrankBoss

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Cookieboystoys

Update....

Looks like I get to try my hand at installing the headliner. The gal I had hoped would install/teach me how well... she doesn't have the time to do it right now due to medical issues with a family member so.... Last night she walked me thru the process and gave me lots of pointers. I did get to see the finished one on the 73 and I do remember lots of the details. The only real question I had was how to do the part above the driver/passenger doors and now I have the answer. She will help if I get really stuck but I really think with what she told me/showed me last night I should be able to do it.

I think I can! I think I can! I think I can!

This morning I stopped by the automotive paint/restore store we have local here in town (village glass) and they have all kinds of neat items for restoring cars. I got some of the push pins needed for doing door gaskets, some vinyl prep/cleaner for the door panels and they had some lite. blue paint for vinyl that is an even better match than the blue I already had. Plus it's for Vinyl! I also found they have the push on washers/lock nuts needed for the heater control cables. Yippy!! I needed some of these and haven't been able to find them.

Anyhow I have to order the dash cap today and consider when I will have the windshield pulled - this week vs. next week. I would like to wait for the gasket and headliner to arrive before I do that and hope they will both be here late this week.

Other than that been cleaning up the stuff for the dash - vents, heater controls, kick panels, radio bezel, in other words all the plastic up front. All of it was pretty clean and not much will have to be painted. I decided against ordering the leafing pen. I'm happy with the way the silver sharpie looks when finished. Seems to hold up fairly well and is easy to fix if scratched, plus I already have the pens required so I don't have to order, pay and wait.

I'm not really looking forward to doing the rear panels, they are BIG! and will require lots of cleaning. If I want the paint to stick well lots of prep and cleaning are required.

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!