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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Pintony

Well DA!!!!
I forgot they used your car to make them...
Where is my... What was I loooking for????

Tercin

Fresh Cherries????

Beats the heck out of me. MotorMax never said anything about what the name of the series would be, the freebee that they sent me was in a black box with no reference to Fresh Cherries. I knew about the name when everyone else did.

Tercin
The only Pinto I have
73 Sports Accent
Rust free California Car

Pintony

Quote from: Tercin on December 19, 2007, 04:24:42 PM
Hello Group

My Pinto was bought in Fresno CA at Friendly Ford. I have the original hand written bill of sale with the purchasers information. Tom Robinson bought the car for his wife. She drove it until she passed away, Mr Robinson drove it to work for a while then decided it was time for it to go. He wouldn't sell it to a lot of people who showed interest in it. I'm sure the memories were too great, I assume he was glad to see it go to someone who lived far away and wasn't going to make it into a race car or demo it.

Tercin
Hey T,
What does that have to do with Fresh Cherries??? ;D

pintoguy76

Has anyone else noticed how the small fresh cherries pintos  (or some of them atleast) say "1970 Ford Pinto" on them? Theres no such thing! ;D:D
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

Tercin

Hello Group

My Pinto was bought in Fresno CA at Friendly Ford. I have the original hand written bill of sale with the purchasers information. Tom Robinson bought the car for his wife. She drove it until she passed away, Mr Robinson drove it to work for a while then decided it was time for it to go. He wouldn't sell it to a lot of people who showed interest in it. I'm sure the memories were too great, I assume he was glad to see it go to someone who lived far away and wasn't going to make it into a race car or demo it.

Tercin
The only Pinto I have
73 Sports Accent
Rust free California Car

pintoguy76

Aww i was hoping i had them all. I never found any of the cruising wagons myself, my mom found it and bought it for me. The pintos seem to be dissappearing from the fresh cherries line now so im not sure ill be able to get the other 3. Farmboy -  there arent any of them left here either.  All i saw last time were some  orange 1:24's that were already assembled.
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

Farmboy

  I was in the local walmart on thursday and there were NO pintos to be had, just those inferor chevy vegas :wow:, was hopeing to pick up a model of the primer gray lil' pony
  I do what the voices in my Pinto tell me to do




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71 Runabout (parts car)

Boss2300

   Your missing three (3) 1:87 scale Cruising Wagons. They are Yellow, Orange & Dark Green.


   Boss2300
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pintoguy76

Wow thats alot of friendly fords. I was kinda hoping there was a famous pinto sold right here in town :D;D Tercin i have many of your cars :D ;D lol. Three of the remote control ones (2 red ones, 1 black, 1:16 scale) 8 of the 1:24 scale hotwheels type cars (1 red, 1 yellow, 2 lime green, 2 neon green, and 2 blue). Also have 2 1:87 scale bobcats, 1 copper and 1 red, and 1 1:87 scale cruising wagon which is copper. Then i have 3 of the 1:24 scales, 1 red 1 lime green and 1 copper. Also have 1 of the  models that you haveto put together. Its red too. I saw the grey one that you could paint up yourself but i never bought it. I thik its gone now. I searched every walmart that i stopped at from here to port isabel texas on my way to vacation. I only found the two bobcats in corpus christi. I dont know if there are any others or not, im hoping i have them all except for that one unpainted one.  Anyone know of one im missing??
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: pintoguy76 on December 16, 2007, 01:58:24 AM
Tercin, since you live in missouri, even tho the car is FROM california do you think maybe it was bought here in springfield, MO (whre i live). There is a "friendly ford" here. I dont know if there could be more than one dealer with the same name or or not unless they are owned by the same person...

Hey Pintoguy76, I did a Google search for Friendly Ford... you may be surprised...

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBS_en___US213&q=%22friendly+ford%22
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

pintoguy76

Tercin, since you live in missouri, even tho the car is FROM california do you think maybe it was bought here in springfield, MO (whre i live). There is a "friendly ford" here. I dont know if there could be more than one dealer with the same name or or not unless they are owned by the same person...
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

phils toys

Apintonut,
Just so you know they also have a die-cast model kit as well . I have seen them in gray primer , orange and yellow.  the 1/24 car i have seen in Green, brown, Orange, and yellow. and the  1/64  blue,orange , yellow,mint green and olive green.   the 1/87 is a crusin wagon in  brown, green, yellow.  Then they also made a bobcat hatchback in 1/87  in red , brown, white, and black.  The Remote control is  red and black  different frequency
Phils toys.

also i sent an email requesting a squire version and they said  they were testing woody designs on other cars and if it went well they would consider it.
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2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
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apintonut

wow am i behind the times! i intend on buying a good few just bout the r/c on ebay last night
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

Tercin

  Yeah man, that's my car. I saw some new packaging at Toys R Us the other day.
  I think that it is listed as a 74 because the MotorMax guy bought a 74 model kit off of ebay, I'm sure the translation between Ontario California and somewhere in China got lost.

Tercin 
The only Pinto I have
73 Sports Accent
Rust free California Car

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: 77turbopinto on December 15, 2007, 06:49:17 AM

Somewhere someone explains why they are made the way they are. There might be more threads too.

Bill

Tercin
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  Re: Die cast Pintos
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2006, 03:19:39 PM » Quote 

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They used my 73 as a basis for their models. I sent about 20 photos of my car. I even got one of the first ones made. It was sent to my house. The model I got was green with a white top. If you look closely at your model you will see a line on the top. This was a seam in my vinyl top that was put there when the previous owner had it redone. The upholsterer said he didn't have enough material in avocado green to do a one piece top so he had to put that seam down the middle. There are also aftermarket speakers in the doors, these were also taken from the many photos of my interior that were sent along with the exterior shots. If you look closely at the rear license plate you will see a frame that says Friendly Ford, this was also on the car when the photos were taken. I had a PCCA sticker on the car but that did not make it on to the model. I may have the option of buying a couple of cases to resell, If I do the prices will be very reasonable, of course my sons want a couple for their own, I am trying to teach them the value of Pintos as well as all vintage Fords. All in all this was a great little bit of nostalgia for me and produced a few memories. I found out about this opportunity right here on this board, Motormax put out a call for someone to allow them to photograph a Pinto and I responded. Johnny Lightning is supposed to be putting out a 1/64 Pinto this year. Pretty cool huh?

Tercin
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!


apintonut

yah but its labeled a 74 with 71-73 bumpers
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

Scott Hamilton

Yup.. do a forum search on die cast pinto and you will meet Tercin who owns the Pinto that all the cars were made after...

They contacted us and we put the word out on the site...

Cool Hugh?
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Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
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apintonut

i just was at wallmart.  i was in the to area and fond a 1:24 scale diecast pinto.
its labeled a 74 but has small bumpers.
the description reads

a pinto is a small horse with a patchwork coat;  it's also a small car ford produced in the U.S. The pinto was an important car in the 1970s.  partly due to its fuel economy during the oil crises of that decade.  It was available in two-door or hatchback and station wagon bodystyles.  although ford sold thousands of pintos, there aren't too many around anymore.  nevertheless, clubs such as the pinto car clubs of america and enthusiast web sites such as www.fordpinto.com, continue to spread the word and preserve the legacy ford's trusty pinto.

http://www.motormaxtoy.com/about
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.