Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Cookieboystoys

front seats will be interesting...

mounting holes on the passenger pinto seat is 11" wide and 14" long and the mustang is 14"x14"

mounting holes on the driver pinto seat is 12.5" wide and 14" long and the mustang is again 14"x14"

would be a tight fit on the passenger side in the front if I made my own holes.

I like your idea about swapping covers... I was thinking the same thing and I do think the Vinyl is supple enough without heating it up  ;D

Great Minds Think Alike  ::) 8)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

douglasskemp

Quote from: TIGGER on August 07, 2007, 08:00:37 PM
...As for the rear cushion, why don't you just swap the seat covers?  I would think the hog rings would come off easily enough without damaging the vinyl.  Then you just recover the Pinto frame with the Mustang vinyl?...
I was going to suggest the very same thing, as long as the Mustang vinyl is supple enough to stretch a bit.  If you warm it up (leave it in the sun or hit it with a heat gun, but don't burn it) it'll be much easier to get all the wrinkles out.
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

TIGGER

You shouldn't have any problems bolting in the front seats.  At least for the short buckets, there are very few differences between the two(other than the material)  As for the rear cushion, why don't you just swap the seat covers?  I would think the hog rings would come off easily enough without damaging the vinyl.  Then you just recover the Pinto frame with the Mustang vinyl?  I did the seats in my 67 Mustang years ago and the rear seat was a snap compared to the fronts.  Just a thought........
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Turbowagonman, after I was all done I needed to "rub-a-dub-dub" in the tub to get all the grease off  ;D

Well.... the Mustang seat swap didn't work...

Bottoms are different sizes = Big Problem!! Check out the pictures below. You'll see the Mustang rear bottom is much deeper than the Pinto seat. Also there is a metal brace under the mustang seat that keeps it from laying down correctly. I could cut out the metal bar but then I would have nothing to bolt the seat down with and with the extra depth....

The back can be used w/minor mods. In the first picture you will see why I want to swap in the Mustang seats, they are in fantastic condition. You will also see the backs are exactly the same size and mount the same as the Pinto back. When you flip it over you will see the only difference between the Mustang and Pinto back. See picture 2 and you will notice the Pinto seat is flat and the Mustang has extra padding on the bottom where it bends. Not a problem, the vinyl is stapled to a cardboard insert that give the shape and when I removed the staples and removed the cardboard it fit good.

I wonder what kind of issues I might face with the front seats... gonna go measure to see if the mounting studs are the same...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

turbowagonman

Looks real good after that Rub-a-Dub-Dub, both iside and out!

turbowagonman
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Cruising Wagon.........R.I.P.
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Deluxe Wagon (work in progress)
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/turbowagonman/

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Tigger, I think I spent about 5 hours cleaning it up...

I'm still not sure why except it was to hot to go in the house, I don't have AC at home  ;)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

TIGGER

Nice job Cookieboy, your engine compartment cleaned up nicely. 
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Cookieboystoys

Updated Progress... guess I should try to keep up. Some already know I installed the new dash cap and cleaned up the interior so I could take it to a local car show the weekend of the 28-29th. I used my little "sharpie" trick to touch up the plastic on the vents, gauges, shifter and such... man that works slick and you can hardly tell it's not origional.

I also cleaned up the engine compartment. Pulled the battery and air cleaner and scrubbed down all I could reach. Engine degreaser, dawn dishwashing soap, brushes, scouring pads and even used some old tooth brushes to get in the tight spots. I re-taped and re-attached a few wires to their proper spots. Looks a little better, mostly just gave me a good idea what shape the engine compartment is in.

I need to make another trip to Pintony's this year, I'm getting that rebuilt 2.3 motor he has for this car. From what I have been told this motor has 166,000 miles and 1 rebuild under it's belt 30,000 miles ago. Has a slight engine knock and well... I want something better and Tony's rebuilt and modified 2.3 fit's the want list  ;D

Next is seats from the Mustang mentioned above... I pulled the front and rear seats and I hope to be putting them in the wagon. Front seats shouldn't be to big an issue. I hope to figure out some way to use the rear seat from the Mustang in the wagon so they'll match front and back. The Mustang was a hatchback w/fold down rear seat so I think I'll have a chance... we'll see...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

FlyerPinto

I never would have thought of that. I might give that a go if I keep the yellow one.
1977 Bobcat HB
1977 Bobcat HB
1978 Pinto Cruising Wagon

So many projects, so little time...

turbowagonman

Quote from: FlyerPinto on July 25, 2007, 07:46:05 AM
Good looking car! I like the red, one of my CW is a yellow 77 and the color is ok, a bit faded. But the red is just sharp, and it looks really smooth.

Hey Flyer, if your Yellow is faded, try to rub it out with, don't laugh, WD-40. I had to do that to my '80' CW because the paint had ABSOLUTELY no "Shine" to it. Then I took some Meguires Cleaner Wax and hit it again. Now the paint on my CW was so Thin you could see the Grey Primer through the White paint, I did the whole Wagon by hand, once with WD-40 and once with the Wax. BTW I won First Place in the "80 to present Modified Class" with a clean up like I described above.

turbowagonman
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Cruising Wagon.........R.I.P.
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Deluxe Wagon (work in progress)
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/turbowagonman/

Cookieboystoys

Hey Frank, That mustang didn't look much better 10 years ago when I parked it. Only reason I kept it was because the interior was in perfect condition. Even now the original black dash pad has no cracks in it, Seats are dirty but no major rips...

No "hockey stripe" for the wagon... I was thinking along these lines. Not exact but a variation of....

with a partial hot pants kit... side pieces only....
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

FCANON

That wagon is just calling for one of those little hockey stripes....maybe in white?

too bad about the Mustang.

Frank
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Cookieboystoys

Thanks Phil, that mustang is well... dead... the short story is that it was parked 10 years ago with a bad motor, Quite a few years ago someone used a bobcat and pushed it 100+ feet into the woods where it was stored and no one told me. For 2 years I thought it had been stolen for parts/whatever. Couple years ago I went out to the storage place early in the year and spotted it way back in the woods. This year a chain was attached and the car was dragged oh... some 300+ feet to it's current location. I'm stripping some interior parts and a fellow member on the group here is taking the rest for parts.

I also have another 76 mustang that runs good but is not road worthy (brakes are gone) that is sitting out there. Great interior and a shot and rusty body. not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

phils toys

Good luck  with the new wagon  project. Did you pull the mustang with the bobcat or run it over? that looks to be a very major project.
Phils toys
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: High_Horse on July 25, 2007, 08:06:46 AM
if you put a car cover on a Pinto and utter the magic words P.O.S., they fix themselves. Shhhhh.

LOL... sure worked for me, I was thinking it saw the love and attention I gave the 73 and it figured it better straighten up or it would get the same treatment as one of my old mustangs... been parked in the woods for 9 years and just got pulled out with a chain and bobcat.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

High_Horse

QuoteI bought this in June of 2006 in Hutchinson Kansas. Lot's of work, new parts and money got poured into this car shortly after I got it home and what a disappointment . Still wouldn't run right, coughs, sputters and just wouldn't go. I got frustrated and parked it to work on the 73. 7 days ago I removed the cover, washed it up and low and behold it started right up and ran good.
CookieBoy,
   I know I didn't mention it to you as I hoped Pintony might clue you in, obviously PintoPower didn't say anything in Tulsa but if you put a car cover on a Pinto and utter the magic words P.O.S., they fix themselves. Shhhhh.

                                                        H_H
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Tigger and FlyerPinto, it has been repainted appox 10 years ago according to the seller and looks to be original color. However the paint is badly scratched and lots of issues. It will need a repaint to look good again. At least it's straight and no outside rust. I do have floorboard issues on the driver side and will need a patch and has little rust in the rear wheel wells

Has new carpet, the seats have weird patches on them and headliner has 2 seams coming apart and 1 small hole. The rear panels were cut for speakers and recovered same as the door panels. I have a dash cap to install, gauges need a little touch up but all in all interior looks OK.

I don't really like the color red but it sure is an eye grabber on these cars. The 73 IMHO is a better color red as this one is a little darker but I plan on keeping the original color for the wagon.

on the belt... who would have thunk it...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

FlyerPinto

Good looking car! I like the red, one of my CW is a yellow 77 and the color is ok, a bit faded. But the red is just sharp, and it looks really smooth.
1977 Bobcat HB
1977 Bobcat HB
1978 Pinto Cruising Wagon

So many projects, so little time...

TIGGER

Nice wagon!  It does not look like it needs much on the outside.  What condition is the interior in?  It looks like an easy project ;D  I started working on my wagon a bit this past weekend as well.  I wish I had more time lately to get some of my projects done :(

BTW, thanks for the belt tip.  You get one up!
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Turbowagonman, here's some updated pictures with the front spoiler painted and installed. Plus the engine compartment in it's current state.

some of the new parts that have been installed include... head gasket, rebuilt carb, distributor, alternator, and a new coil to name a few. Rear suspension all looked fairly new when I bought the car. Front ball joints, tie rods and brakes were all done too. Right before the above pictures were taken I had the wheels and tires mounted and balanced. Seems to run OK and drives real smooth. Looking good so far...   

Interesting story and lesson... I have been hearing a "metallic rattling" sound when when the engine was running. Disconnected the alternator belt and the sound went away. Spun the pulley on the alternator and had a bit of thump to it instead of being smooth. So I buy and new alternator, install it and the sound is still there but not as bad. Took it to one of the local shops in town to have him take a peek and listen. He listens for a sec and tells me to pull it up to the doors. He come out with a can is silicone spray and sprays the belt. Sound goes away  :wow: Then tells me to go get a new belt and problem solved. He explained that the belt was sticking in the pulley and as it came around instead of sliding free of the pulley it would stick instead and cause a pop sound as it released from the pulley. Because of the speed of the belt the pop I was hearing sounded like a metallic rattle to me.

learn something new every day, belt has been changed and no more sound.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

turbowagonman

Cookieboy, thats a nice lookig ride you got there!  8)

turbowagonman
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Cruising Wagon.........R.I.P.
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Deluxe Wagon (work in progress)
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/turbowagonman/

Cookieboystoys

The 73 is almost done and it's time to get back to the original project car.

NEXT!!!

I bought this in June of 2006 in Hutchinson Kansas. Lot's of work, new parts and money got poured into this car shortly after I got it home and what a disappointment. Still wouldn't run right, coughs, sputters and just wouldn't go. I got frustrated and parked it to work on the 73. 7 days ago I removed the cover, washed it up and low and behold it started right up and ran good. I have since put a little time and work into it, test driving it and all seems much better. I can't explain it but I'll take it and not complain. Still a lot of work to restore to it's former glory but this car needs less than the 73 did so it should go a little smoother and not cost me quite as much. For now I'm just gonna drive it and work some minor bugs out, I need to build up my confidence in this little wagon again.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!