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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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turbowagonman

Quote from: quickrick on July 24, 2007, 08:25:40 PM
Quickrick here--The guy with all the parts...and nothing ready to drive! :lol:

Don't feel bad quickrick your not alone!

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\'80\' Turbo Pinto Deluxe Wagon (work in progress)
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quickrick

Quickrick here--The guy with all the parts...and nothing ready to drive! :lol:
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BlueGoldPinto

Hey all-haven't been on in quite awhile, you can thank my ISP for that------anyway I live in Wooster, OH but will be movin down to Columbus for school this coming Sept!!! sadly I'll have to leave my Pinto at home :'( I know of at least two other running pintos in my town and a house with two Pintos that have been sitting in it's driveway for years, just outside of Wooster. Would love to be at fun ford weekend to meet you all, not sure of the plans though!
Good to see the Ohio population out there!
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If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

r4pinto

I just saw this post.. I would love to take my car there, but I doubt it would make it. I shoulda changed the tranny in it during the month of unemployment, but I didn't. I've just had too much going on with prepping my Omni Turbo for the Carlisle Chrysler Nationals, which were a blast, and looking for work.
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Redeless1

I am here in suburban T-Hole, uh sorry, I mean Toledo. Perrysburg to be exact. Doin' the hardcore to the 72 wagon- turbo. After the serious mechanicals the bright white paint with wood grain, black painted steel wheels, and poverty caps are next. Pinto "woody" wagon- the ultimate sleeper from hell :evil:
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78/79 Cougar
89 SSP Mustang Texas DPS
Because Different Is Good!

phils toys

Harley
I am hoping to make it but it will be saturday only, I have another local car show on sunday,
phil
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

pintoman

All right you guys,as far as i know i will be parking the show cars on Saturday and Sunday.I should have the after noons off.I should have the Rallye there.Need to install new clutch and heater core this weekend.Lets round up as many Pinto people as we can for this show.Hey Phill hope you can make it down.I'LL see all you guys there,Harley.
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turbowagonman

Quote from: turbowagonman on July 03, 2007, 04:59:11 PM
I'll post a link from Norwalk or "Summit Motorsports Park".

http://www.summitmotorsportspark.com/main-news/are-you-ready-for-fun-ford-weekend/?searchterm=Fun%20ford%20Weekend

On another note, hey pintoman I wont have my PCCA shirt in time so I will have a White Pinto shirt on with the design in the link I'm going to post. He has more of these shirts (hint hint). The shirt doesn't have the "Blue Oval" on it though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-PINTO-T-SHIRT-XL-FM250_W0QQitemZ160133553152QQihZ006QQcategoryZ50429QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

turbowagonman

The link I added is for LAST YEARS FFW that is not the info you need......BUT I have the flyer in front of me and it says that FFW THIS year is July 20-22. So I will have my PCCA shirt in time and I will be wearing it with PRIDE.
Prices are as follows,
Adults: Fri $12; Sat OR Sun $20; Sat & Sun $35; Weekend $40
Child (6-12) $5 a day
Primitive Camping: $25
Motorhome w/Electric $50
Gates open: 8am
Showtime: All Day!
Info: SummitMotorsportsPark.com
Hope to see you there.

turbowagonman
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Cruising Wagon.........R.I.P.
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Deluxe Wagon (work in progress)
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/turbowagonman/

turbowagonman

Quote from: phils toys on July 03, 2007, 12:58:58 AM
can i get more info about the show? i have to be in Cleveland that weekend and just might go the little extra to meet up with some of you.
Phils toys

I'll post a link from Norwalk or "Summit Motorsports Park".

http://www.summitmotorsportspark.com/main-news/are-you-ready-for-fun-ford-weekend/?searchterm=Fun%20ford%20Weekend

On another note, hey pintoman I wont have my PCCA shirt in time so I will have a White Pinto shirt on with the design in the link I'm going to post. He has more of these shirts (hint hint). The shirt doesn't have the "Blue Oval" on it though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-PINTO-T-SHIRT-XL-FM250_W0QQitemZ160133553152QQihZ006QQcategoryZ50429QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

turbowagonman
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Cruising Wagon.........R.I.P.
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Deluxe Wagon (work in progress)
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/turbowagonman/

Hairball

Welcome pintomike76
I live in New Paris.
I have a 80 CW.


Dave
Nice green 1977 cruising wagon wanted

postalpony


:welcome:pintomike76
  I am an old man from Lancaster, in Fairfield Co. 20 mi. sw of

  Columbus. I have a 1980 Pinto that was a postal vehicle on the

  west coast & is rust free, I also have a 1979 hatchback that

   spent its life in Ohio, NOT rust free. Hope to make it to

   Norwalk FFW, talk to you later.

              "Postalpony"  Dick Mathias
1980 Hatchback was a "Postal Unit" on the
west coast in it's early life. Now residing
in Ohio, But we don't haul the U.S. Mail anymore;
Now all we do is HAUL!
5th gear 4700 rpm & still pullin'= 113+  mph

UPDATE-83.762 mph in 4th gear As verified by a W Va State Trooper-WITH 1 GEAR TO GO 6-2-11

phils toys

can i get more info about the show? i have to be in Cleveland that weekend and just might go the little extra to meet up with some of you.
Phils toys
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

pintomike76

Wow

Iam glad you all have replied makes me now theres more of me out there. I think sometime we should try to all have a get together in Central Ohio some weekend. Just not to sure my pinto is ready for the 3 hr drive to Norwalk but i know iam doing everything i can to be there. So if you guys like the idea of us all getting together sometime let me know and we will make it happen.

Plus Turbowagonman
if you come across another set of the centerlines like whats on urs let me know thats what iam tring to track down.
Thanks
pintomike

turbowagonman

I'll be there, with bells on.

turbowagonman
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Cruising Wagon.........R.I.P.
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Deluxe Wagon (work in progress)
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/turbowagonman/

pintoman

Hey Turbowagonman,I will be working both Saturday and Sunday.But i will be there on Friday.I plan on running up on Friday morning.See you and all the rest of the Ohio Pinto;s there,Harley.
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rpark068

Whats up? I am from Adams Mills and I am pretty new to the forum also but welcome aboard. I hope to make it to the Norwalk car show but I don't know if I'll be there or not. Maybe I'll see all you guys there. Peace! :2fast4u:

turbowagonman

Quote from: pintoman on June 30, 2007, 07:37:34 AM
Hey Turbowagonman glad to hear from you.I live about 8 miles from Steltzer rd.I will be at Norwalk in the car show.But i will be working the show.I think all of the Ohio Pintos should show up for this show so the Mustangs don't get all the glory.See you there,Pintoman[Harley].

My car isn't done yet  :( so I highly doubt I'll be there in mine. Believe me though I'll be talking to EVERY Pinto owner at the show. I've got to order a PCCA Shirt today and I will have it on at FFW so if you see me hollar at me by either "turbowagonman" or "Shawn" (turbowagonman is more noticeable) BTW what "day" or "days" are you working?

turbowagonman
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Cruising Wagon.........R.I.P.
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Deluxe Wagon (work in progress)
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/turbowagonman/

sky

hey 1975 pinto, i live in richmond,in, just across the boarder off i70........sky :7: :8: :swirl: :swirl: :swirl: :swirl:
78 pinto pony..all original even tires!!!!! 17,000 MILES BOUGHT NEW!!!!

pintoman

Hey Turbowagonman glad to hear from you.I live about 8 miles from Steltzer rd.I will be at Norwalk in the car show.But i will be working the show.I think all of the Ohio Pintos should show up for this show so the Mustangs don't get all the glory.See you there,Pintoman[Harley].
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1975 pinto

Hi, i'm 1975 pinto. I am also new here and I live in Kettering which is just south of Dayton.
6 miles south of Dayton, Oh

pintomike76

yeah iam going to try to make it up on the 21rst but iam not 100% sure its going to be about a 3hr drive dont think iam going to get to bring my hatcback due to still getting small bugs worked out and i have never drived it that distance yet but i hope to meet ya guys up there

THanks
Pintomike

turbowagonman

 :welcome: pintomike76!!!

I'm turbowagonman (Shawn) I live in Euclid (Northeast Ohio, in the snowbelt). I only know of about Two or Three around her besides mine, I was down all last summer do to me doing a Resto-Mod to my 80 Turbo Wagon but there might have been a couple more that poped up in that time. Here is a link to my pics on the net (clik "back" to see the project in progress)
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/turbowagonman/?action=view&current=Deluxe_Wagon_as_Bought.jpg

pintoman: I plan on going to FFW @ Norwalk on the 21st myself, hopefully I'll run into more of the people from the site there as well. I'll be in my Pinto 'garve. Are you showing, Racing or just going to go?
BTW, I'm coming down your way tomorrow to pick up a couple of motors, a tranny and some SVO doors.
The place I have to go is near STELZER Rd., is that near you?

turbowagonman
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Cruising Wagon.........R.I.P.
\'80\' Turbo Pinto Deluxe Wagon (work in progress)
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/turbowagonman/

pintoman

Hey PINTOMIKE welcome to the board.This is Pintoman[Harley] from Columbus.We have about twelve Pintos up here.If you can make it ,there will be a all Ford car show the weekend of July 2oth-22nd at Norwalk ,Ohio.  I should be there along with a few more Pintos.
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pintomike76

Hello all
Iam a newbie to the forum so iam out to track down some Ohio pinto owners. Most of my friends think iam crazy cause i have always loved pintos. I live in southern ohio 45159 and would love to see who all is out there

setty_mike76@hotmail.com

drop me a post or a email
Thanks
Pino mike

1979 Hatchback