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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Project V8 pinto street machine

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gearhead440

This link should help you with some info and part numbers

http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=57&topic=6622.0

I got my springs and rotors on eBay (new) but Napa should still these springs.
Speed is only a question of money: Just how fast do you want to go?

77turbopinto

BTW: Beware, there are people out there selling a "V8 Pinto manual" for under 10 bucks on ebay. I got one years ago and it hit the trash can the day I got it. IMHO they are useless and you can get more info here.

Bill
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77turbopinto

My MustangII V8 (Vega V8) springs were about 1" taller than the 130K+ mile stock Pinto ones I removed from the car. Yes the Pinto ones have the same # of coils and are .5", but my V8 ones are 9/16". I like it a little high due to how far the radiator hangs down. I tool off 3/4 of a coil, I might do another .5, maybe.

NY? Then you MUST be planning to go to Carlisle.....


Bill
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High_Horse

Drive80Pinto,
    When I did my front end( total stock overhaul-v6 car) I knew down the road that I was going to be converting to a v8. So while I had them out I ran the springs up to the local spring and axil shop and compared them to a set of v8 Mustang springs. Same overall diameter, same coil mill diameter, same number of coils. The only difference was that my 77 springs were 1/2" longer then the Mustang springs so I did not buy them. This was in 97. Go figure.

                                                                                                                      High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

mrpinto

I got MII coils from Napa. They do sit high, and don't settle a whole lot.  I ended up cutting one coil, but after that they sit perfect.

Ring and pinion sets, and mini and full spools are easy to find, and about the same cost as the 9". The posi or L/S units can be pretty pricey and harder to find for an 8" than a 9".
1979 302 Pinto Custom
1971 460 Drag Pinto

drive80pinto

yea i know the mustang II weighs more, does your pinto sit up really high with mustang springs? The rear end i have is a 8 inch because it looks just like a 9in. I live in NY on Long Island.

77turbopinto

The 8" rear has a removable carrier (comes off the front like a 9"), the 6.75" has a cover bolted on the back of the housing.

Lockers, spools, and L/S are avilable for the 8", but pricey.

I got the front springs years ago from a guy selling a bunch of parts. I think you can still get them at NAPA or the like.

Here and ebay are the best places.

Where are you?

Bill


BTW: Mustang IIs are heavier than a Pinto.
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drive80pinto

Where did you get those aftermarket mustang II springs from? My pinto looks like it has a the 8 inch in it.unless the 6.5 looks like the 8 inch on the outside. What kind of parts can you get for the 8 inch (Gears,Limited Slip)? And were is a good site for me to fine Mustang II or pinto parts im having alot of trouble even finding parts for a Mustang II

77turbopinto

I used the fronts for a Mustang II V8. They are new aftermarket ones I just put in so they sit a little high but they should sag a bit.

I have a Pinto/Bobcat/MustangII 8" rear in my wifes turbo Pinto, a Maverick 8" (modified)(5 lug) in my other turbo Pinto, and a 7.5" from a Fox body (modified) in the V8 Pinto. I will be swapping out the 7.5" for a Pinto 8" in a week or two.

The stock 6.5", if your car has it (most likely), will not hold up to ANY power.

The ONLY direct bolt-in rears for Pintos are the Pinto/Bobcat/MustangII ones, 6.75" and 8", NO others. 

Bill
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drive80pinto

I agree i would still like to put a V8 in this pinto, because i got it so cheap and its in such great shape and i dont want to go looking a a V6 because they are hard to come by. I am going to definetly be replacing the front srings. I am not sure what i am going to to with the rear end. what rear end do you have in your pinto                77turbopinto? I did you get springs for a mustang II ?

77turbopinto

I don't want to "start anything", but I think the V6 cars are worth more stock (in a similar condition) and I would leave one of those stock and build up the not so rare 2.3 car (depending on condition). Not all the V6 cars had the 8" rears anyway, you will need (really should) change the front springs in either car, and those are the easy parts of the swap. The rubber M/M-ed V8 in my car clears the hood; it all depends on HOW you install it as to how much room you have and where. I have a manual rack with about 1/8" of room between it and the pan, and a G/R starter with about 7/16" of room to the crossmember (the stock big one had about 1/8"). I had to do some work to get the hood clearence for both turbo cars too, but is is do-able.

IMHO: Build it the way you want it, don't re-do it later.

Bill
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High_Horse

Drive80Pinto,
     My suggestion is don't convert a 2.3 car to v8. To much hassle with rear end and front end. Using a v6 car is the way to go. Just put your 2.3 back in and spend a fraction of the money and keep that a good car. You said you were young, well keep your eyes open for a v6 car and do the nasty down the road.
The solid motor mounts are much more smooth then I expected. The motor would not clear the hood with stock type rubber mounts of course i am currently using a low cast 2 barrel manifold with a self made aircleaner and i chopped the air horn/choke off the top of the carb to squeeze it in.

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Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

drive80pinto

Hey readers
I begain to post in "your racers" but now im posting here because that wasnt the right place
The whole idea of my project is to givfe me a fun project to work on and have a cool car in the end. I bought a 1980 Pinto two door this last summer for 100 bucks. She is in really great shape and she would be running now if a had not taken out the 2.3 to rebuild it. I have gotten the engine aabout half way done when i reallized i wanted somthing different. I have a 302 carberated motor hangin around which i took out of my 1985 mustang which i made into a drag car. I am looking in putting this into my pinto. Another thing i woul dlike to do is to put a 4 speed maybe even a 5 speed in it but that to worry about later. I am going to look through the site for ideas. any extra ideas from anyone would be great. i would also like to get inputs on how people like there pintos with a V8 in it and what major problems you came across when buidling it.
Thanks for the help i will let everyone know how my project is coming and ill try to show some pictures