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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Cookieboystoys

New! Flywheel Installed  ;D

They pulled the tranny, replaced flywheel, all gaskets and seals replaced on the tranny, new tranny cooling lines, u-joints and rear end inspected/nothing needed. Excellent! Now it runs good, flywheel fixed and hopefully no more trans leak.

Now I should be able to drive it daily or as needed  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pintony

Hello Brian,
I have a NEW NOS flywheel if you have need...
From Pintony

Cookieboystoys

Hey High Horse, the starter currently in the car is the one from the 80 parts car I stripped. I knew it was a risk putting it in since I had no history on it, just thought since the gear looked better than the other 2..

I'm afraid I don't have the knowledge on how to do any of what you suggested with the starter.

anyhow tonight I will most likely put one of the other starters back in as it's easier to start the pinto with them. I stopped in to check with the tranny shop this morning and looks like it will be 2 weeks before he will be able to squeeze me in.

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

High_Horse

CookieBoy,
                  I never ever put in a starter that I have not set the start contact myself. Odds are it was trying to engage to soon. I don't care if it is brand new. I always pull the starter apart and lube both end bearings then the bendix and finally I set the start contact so it engages just a rc hair before the pinion is all the way out.


                                                                                                                                                       High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Cookieboystoys

I decided to ship the 78 off to storage and keep the 80 at home to drive and figure out what the issue is w/the starter. During the head gasket replacement I replaced the starter with a ?new? one the previous owner gave me. Same thing with the ?new? starter... grinds a bit and starter doesn't catch. Eventually it would start but the grinding sound wasn't good. Today I took the 80 out for a bit of a ride and all is still good, no issues and ran great. I pulled the starter off the motor and tranny off of the 80 I scrapped, cleaned it up and had it ready to install in case the ?new? starter I installed during the head gasket replacement was the problem. Proceeded to remove the starter and this time I inspected the flywheel... Problem Found! it's the flywheel. Lots of teeth are chewed up bad and no question... flywheel needs replacement.

Here's an odd thing... original starter and the ?new? one I installed were both a little chewed up on the gear and would grind while trying to start it. The one I pulled from the 80 scrap car looks excellent... gear looks perfect. Now with the one from the 80 scrap car installed it doesn't grind but acts like the starter is failing and has trouble engaging.. it will catch and start but.. looks like I can't use it.

Anyhow... off to a shop to have this fixed... I needed to take it back to the tranny guys to have them find the leak (dip stick tube) and fix it so might as well check to see what they would charge to do the flywheel too. I'm not! gonna replace the flywheel myself. 73 should be coming home this week or next weekend so no more garage space to work on the 80 till spring.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Guy's.... that was a lot of work (for me) and I'm really surprised it went as well as it did. Last time I did any motor work was about 13 years ago when I replaced a rod in a dodge slant 6. Feels good to know I can do it if needed.

Now I have to put it away in preperation of getting the 73 back. I don't think I'm gonna stress the 80 with these winter temps (-29 degrees this morning) for awhile and need to get something out of the yard as I'm out of room. Was gonna have the 78 towed out of here and stored but since the 80 runs and I don't wanna drive it until it warms up a bit, it will be easier to get it to the storage location.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

High_Horse

CookieBoy,
Congradulations on a job well done.

                                                                                   High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

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Cookieboystoys

ALL DONE.... I hope  ;)

Got it all back together and running last night, test drove and tweeked it today. All looks good, runs as well as before, had it running for quite some time and put on a few miles, no leaks (excepy tranny - known issue) or funny sounds.

Ohhh... and some before and after pictures.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

got the head back... I didn't have them disassemble to check "everything" and just wanted them to give it a once over for obvious issues. They did shave the surface a bit to give me a flat surface and they didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. I worked last night to get most of the major parts cleaned up for the reassembly. I painted the head, valve cover, thermo housing and exhaust manifold black. The rest I used a wire wheel to remove paint and rust and that all had such a nice shiny brushed metal look to it decided to paint them in clear just to seal them up. Should be an interesting look when done.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

no... no... no... for me I hope it's a "cookie walk"  ;D

head is at the shop getting checked... gotta hurry on this... should get the 73 back next week...

taking it apart is one thing... getting it back together and running is another (for me = motor newbie)

most of this is way above my skill level... but I"m willing to try.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

High_Horse

CookieBoy,
    Thats the same thing that happened to me except between 2 and 3. Cake walk.

                                                                                                          High_Horse
                                                                                                            #226

                                                                         
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Cookieboystoys

New starter and replacment radiator installed... head pulled and ready to be checked... only broke 1 socket... didn't loose any nuts or bolts... couple minor cuts and scrapes... all in all... this was a good day  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Yippy!!!! It's the head gasket, easy to tell w/head removed...

noticed that a few head bolts on the exhaust side were very hard to break loose... I didn't think I was gonna be able to break a couple of em' loose. All the bolts the intake side were easy to break loose.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Finally got the time to start the head removal last night... never done this so it should be "interesting"

drained the anti-freeze and absolutly no oil... had to stop lastnight earlier than I wanted because I don't have a 1/2 inch drive 13mm 12 point socket. I tried the 3/8" drive 13mm socket and couldn't get the bolts to break free. I'm gonna go tool shopping today.

Once I have the head removed I'll hopefully be able to confirm a head gasket failure. I will also have the head checked before I put it back on, might as well as long as I have it removed. I will also will be swapping out the starter and radiator. Maybe even repaint a few parts as long as they have been removed.

wish me luck...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Hey Tony, haven't checked the protection level. Have to keep adding coolant because the radiator needs replacement. The radiator from the 80's parts car was returned over the holidays while I was out of town. Wasn't cold enough to freeze anything here, We got a boat-load of wet here yesterday, if it had been a little colder we would have had several inches of snow. As it was w/the warm weather we have a layer of water on the bottom covered by ice and then very wet snow in the back yard. nasty stuff.. I was on the roads yesterday for more than 6 hours to drive 220 miles home. Very slippery and wet, lots of cars in the ditch and a very slow drive home.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pintony

Hey Cookieboy,
Yes sounds like head gasket,
How does the coolant test for protection??-10-130 for your area..
From Pintony

Cookieboystoys

well.. I checked for oil in anti-freeze and found none and I pulled the dipstick a few times and wiped on a clean sock and saw clean oil. The motor did run a bit before I did the compression test, warm but not hot. I could still touch the motor without getting burned, low compression on the first 2 front cylinders is understandable. I still wonder where the oil came from that gooped up the forth plug. I guess at this point a head gasket might be considered a good thing.

gonna have to get the 80 parts car out of here.. it's taking up valuable garage space.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

High_Horse

CookieBoy,
      I have experienced a head gasket breech between 2 and 3. Maybe yours is breeched between 3 and 4. It just kind of burned it's way though there. This type of breech will not nessesarily put oil in your coolant. As far as the other cylinders are concerned a dry cylinder with a good piston to wall clearence won't really pop to attention like a cylinder being tested with some oil in it. Keep us informed.

                                                                                                             High_Horse
                                                                                                           
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

postalpony



     Hey Cookieboy

     The first thing I would check is coolant in the oil, this could be a leaking head gasket which could be

     blown between cylinders causing 3&4 to be low.   This would be my prediction as  you stated

     that it started all at once. It doesn't sound terminal to me, thats my opinion-- but remember that

     my opinions & $5 will get you a cup of coffee, maybe.   Keep us posted & good luck

                                                                        Dick
1980 Hatchback was a "Postal Unit" on the
west coast in it's early life. Now residing
in Ohio, But we don't haul the U.S. Mail anymore;
Now all we do is HAUL!
5th gear 4700 rpm & still pullin'= 113+  mph

UPDATE-83.762 mph in 4th gear As verified by a W Va State Trooper-WITH 1 GEAR TO GO 6-2-11

Cookieboystoys

Eeee Gads... starting this year off right.

started the 80 Pinto I just got and all was well, ran good, took it to the car wash to get the snow and ice off it and it started running really bad. I didn't hear the change in the way the engine ran as there were good tunes on the radio and had it turned up loud. Once I turned it down I noticed it was running rough and it got worse. Sounded like it was running on 2 cylinders.

So I get it home and check all vacuum lines and such looking for problems, pulled the plugs and all looked used but good. Noticed 1 plug had cracked ceramic so replaced the plugs and no change in how it ran. Got out the compression tester and low and behold... back 2 cylinders have no compression and front 2 are real low at around 50psi. I did get the second one to read 70psi when I retested all cylinders. Also the last plug had oil on it when I pulled it to do the compression test. This is the same plug that was cracked and replaced w/new. It was dry previously.

so... what do you think? simple? major?
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!