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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Some questions regarding swapping a 2.3L into a 71 that had a 2.0L

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69GT

   I talked to a friend who used to race Pintos and he says the 2.3 is flat better than the 2.0.  The 2.3 has a bigger bore so bigger valves are easy. It has the option of eather solid or hydrolic cams. The stock rods are stronger. The head is better suited to high RPM due to it having 4 instead of three cam towers. And the block is stronger. The 2.0s were race competative because of weight breaks for the smaller 2.0s. BTW this still dosnt stop him from loving the 2.0. He raced many of them and won alot against the 2.3s. I would mod mine (2.0) if I could find any decent parts for it. 2.3 turbo motors are everywhere and have forged pistons for almost no money. I think a carbed turbo or nitrous car would be easy using one of these.

Sorry for digging up and re-animating this thread.... :-)

UltimatePinto

Besides Esslinger and Racer Walsh, here are a couple of other parts vendors for 2000 and 1600 engines.

Pegasus in Wisconsen,   www.pegasusautoracing.com

BAT in Florida,    www.batinc.net

Al

FCANON

I had moved my motor back about a half a inch when I installed the 2.3L. a after market flex fan fit but it was tight so I went with the pusher style electric fan in front of the radiator.

I ran a stock hood for about a year with no issues.

The 5 speed is a sweet swap but first gear was too short for my tast with the 3.55 rear gear in my car.

I later converted my 2.3l to a solid lift cam and different carb combos.
the circle track and off road crowd have really pushed the 2.3L to limit. and with the right stock parts you can make a fun car come to life with little money and with out going turbo.
I  have a couple custom intakes on my wall all tested and driven on the street. Using 2 and 4 barrel carbs...

even if your just want a streeter the 2.3L will fit and run cool in the early body, I opted to get a rad for a car with AC but I really dont think it was a must...

Best of luck
Frank

www.PintoWorks.com
www.pintoworks.com   www.tirestopinc.com
www.stophumpingmytown.com
www.FrankBoss.com

ahawes

I went out and looked at my engine compartment earlier and saw that the 2.0 does fit pretty tight to the firewall already. I was aware that the 2.3 is a bigger engine, but I don't really know how much bigger exactly and where it is bigger, height or length-wise. I was thinking while I was looking and it seemed as though if I were to run into problems with clearance that there is definately enough room in the front of the radiator for an electric fan setup if it was necessary to go that route. I priced out rebuilding the 2.0 compared to just buying a 2.3 that I know to be in good condition from one of the local salvage yards and it left me really leaning toward the 2.3 that much more. While I do find the 2.0 to be an intriguing option I think I'm going to just go ahead and go for the 2.3 swap and do the extra work necessary. It seems like a lot of places are starting to phase out the production and sales of the 2.0 parts and in the long run I just can't help but feel that the 2.3 is a better option. I thank everyone for their input and help on this topic, it has been an excellent thread!
Adam
71 Runabout

71hotrodpinto

yes t
Quote from: ahawes on November 26, 2006, 06:16:51 PM
Is the nose shorter on the early pintos? I wasn't aware that there were major differences other than some bumper and grille changes....

  Yes it is. If you look at a 71 early style front radiator support vs a 74 up support youll see that the support on the later models are pushed out about 3 inches.



95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

ahawes

Is the nose shorter on the early pintos? I wasn't aware that there were major differences other than some bumper and grille changes....
71 Runabout

Pintony

Quote from: turbopinto72 on November 26, 2006, 05:19:04 PM
Bent Crank???  Thats interesting.
YES VERY!!!!
Back in the day...
I used to race a 2.0 with 24 lbs boost and Nitrous.
I NEVER had a bent crank related falure.
LOTS of burned Pistons and some spun bearings. + some parting of the crank and flywheel. ;D
BUT ALL, falures were due to HIGH-HP and some poor engine building technics.

turbopinto72

Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintony

Racer Walsh has good parts for the 2.0 and Esslinger has parts.
The heads on the 2.0 are already HIGH flow heads on the intake side.
Just 5 minuets required per-port.
The exhaust side needs help.
maybe 30 minuets per-port.
I like the solid lift cam and the bulit-proof bottom-end.
I suppose that if I were racing? the 2.3 might be a good choice???
For the street the 2.0 is MY choice.
Have you gotten the PCCA calender?
Look on the dec. Pinto
This Pinto HAULS THE MAIL!!!!
from Pintony

turbopinto72

Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

71hotrodpinto

Well Pintony definitely has more experience with the high horsepower 2.0s.
However my experience was that on MINE it had about ohhh maybe 75,000 or so miles and it bent the crank enough to wipe the center main bearing. Now is that too long to expect out of a 30yo "performance" 4 banger??  Don't know.
I sold the engine Carb to header and the guy who bought it down in San Diego went through it and told me that it had a bent crank. He began to mention that the Circle Track racers that use the 2.0 have "ritual" of having the cranks straightened "on a regular basis" . Now I'm not saying that that is every case, its just for me that was enough to stop doing the 2.0 thing. (Although i had already had enough problems for not much N/A horsepower.( bout 125 with my lack of tuning ability's and in front of a c4 as well)

Now Pintony for example had made some MAD power out of his spearco turbo-ed 2.0 and in front of a T5 so maybe that would be a good thought? Although I cant speak for him on reliability or replacement parts.
I can say that I had problems getting parts and the cost of rebuilding them when it came time to. Esslinger Engineering USED to carry a bunch of parts for the engine. Not anymore. They may have some left over but they have all but abandoned the engine. Also when i asked about re-boring the .03 block i had they said "probably wont go .04  And even if i did i might have cooling problems or cracked cylinder walls later"

My opinion is that if you have access to the 2.0 engine and its related parts and know your way around it then go for it! If not id say go with the 2.3 and then your "world" is opened up to you (relatively speaking). But from what Ive read its not so easy in the short nose 71,72,73 Pinto as Ive heard the 2.3 is slightly longer. You might have packaging problems with the radiator.


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

ahawes

Pintony, who is your source for parts for the 2.0's? I have heard that the heads are much more workable on the 2.3's than the 2.0's as well. What is your opinion on this? I know that we ran the 2.3's in pintos and that there were some who ran the 2.0's and remained competitive. I just don't know a lot about the 2.0 so I tend to lean more towards the 2.3/2.5 side of things. I won't be doing much of anything for another month or so, I am just doing the research on my options as of right now. If I could get some decent power out of the 2.0 for a reasonable price I would love to be able to just keep it in the car and not have to deal with the transplant issue. I thank everyone who has weighed in on this topic thus far, it is really making me think, which is a good thing!
Adam
71 Runabout

turbopinto72

I think both the 2.0 and 2.3 are good engines. The 2.0 will outlast the 2.3 and the 2.3 will be easier to build big HP. Depends what you want to do.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintony

Quote from: FCANON on November 26, 2006, 10:11:58 AM
the 2.3 is the better engine.... best swap I ever did to my 72 before I put a V8 in it...less trouble even when it is damaged they tend to run alot longer than the little 2L.... better oiling, more stock peices to choose from...

Any more I take the 2L and put them in the ditch at the farm and look for a hydrolic cam motor....

Frank
HEY fRANK,
tHATS COOL....
I just think the 2.0 is a better engine because all the FAMOUS racing engines are solid lifter engines.
You are totally entitled to your opinion.
As far as Parts I do not seem to have any problems finding them.
Not sure what that is all about???
From Pintony

ahawes

I want to put the 2.3 in because we have raced mini stocks and they always had 2.3's in them and that is what I have knowledge of. It also seems as though the parts are a lot more available than the 2.0's and it is easier to make more power with the 2.3 as well. I suppose it is just a personal preference and a 71 pinto is what i currently have so I will make it work.
Adam
71 Runabout

FCANON

the 2.3 is the better engine.... best swap I ever did to my 72 before I put a V8 in it...less trouble even when it is damaged they tend to run alot longer than the little 2L.... better oiling, more stock peices to choose from...

Any more I take the 2L and put them in the ditch at the farm and look for a hydrolic cam motor....

Frank
www.pintoworks.com   www.tirestopinc.com
www.stophumpingmytown.com
www.FrankBoss.com

Pintony

Quote from: ahawes on November 24, 2006, 01:09:48 PM
OK so here are the questions I have. I have searched on here and have found that with the purchase of some 2.3L motor mounts and welding these mounts lower onto the frame one can succesfully put a 2.3 into a car that originally had a 2.0. My questions are as follows:
Will the 4speed manual tranny that was mated with the 2.0 fit on the 2.3?
Where can I purchase the motor mounts?
If the 2.0's 4 speed doesn't fit on the 2.3, should I just get the tranny out of any car that was equipped with a 2.3? Or is there any car that has a tranny that would be a "best" fit?
If there is anyone else here that has some information that one should know before taking on this project please let me know. I thank you all fo your time.
Adam
The 2.0 is a better engine!
Maybe you have never heard if GERMAN enginering ?
Y would you choose to go throught the hasssle of installing a 2.3?
If you want a 2.3? Buy a 74-up Pinto

UltimatePinto

Would suggest that you do some research in the FAQ and Projects section of this site. There have been numerous requests similar to yours in the not so distant past, particularly where the transmission is involved.

I would go with a 2300 tranny unit, (auto or manual), if that's what you intend for an engine,  just for the ease of the install.

Al


TIGGER

I have a set of 2.3L frame and motor mounts from my 80 parts car.  PM me or send me an email if you are interested.  I think the 2.0L bellhousing is different between the two cars but I have heard that the transmission can be used with the correct bellhousing but I have not tried it. 
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

ahawes

OK so here are the questions I have. I have searched on here and have found that with the purchase of some 2.3L motor mounts and welding these mounts lower onto the frame one can succesfully put a 2.3 into a car that originally had a 2.0. My questions are as follows:
Will the 4speed manual tranny that was mated with the 2.0 fit on the 2.3?
Where can I purchase the motor mounts?
If the 2.0's 4 speed doesn't fit on the 2.3, should I just get the tranny out of any car that was equipped with a 2.3? Or is there any car that has a tranny that would be a "best" fit?
If there is anyone else here that has some information that one should know before taking on this project please let me know. I thank you all fo your time.
Adam
71 Runabout